News Forum - UKRAINE UPDATES: Russia relents, Ukraine offers concessions at Turkey peace talks; Amnesty decries Russian war crimes

[Politenessman]

1 hour ago, Stardust said:

Putting childrens on their tanks as a shield. This shows who they are the russian army and what kind of scum. People who defend these low life criminals are the same there can't be any apologize anymore or any tolerance

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/02/ukrainian-children-used-as-human-shields-near-kyiv-say-witness-reports

If true, it is a war crime and if the children are killed or injured, the Russians bear the responsibility for it.

[Alavan]

54 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

The issue of Donbass has already been resolved, it will become part of Russia.

The leadership of the DPR and LPR have already announced that they will soon hold a referendum, such things are not done without coordination with the Russian Federation.  

The same fate, perhaps, awaits Kherson, Zaporozhye, Odessa, Sumy and Kharkov, or they will become an independent state from Kyiv.

Democratic held referendum won by 99%.

The people who would vote Ukrainian are gone, disappeared,  terrorised  or even murdered  like in Donbass

[Fanta]

4 minutes ago, Politenessman said:

If true, it is a war crime and if the children are killed or injured, the Russians bear the responsibility for it.

Doesn’t matter if they are injured or killed. It is still a war crime to put non combatants between yourself and the enemy as human shields. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_shields_(law)

[oldschooler]

12 hours ago, butterfly said:

the Queen is the constitution, it's basically the history and practices of the past royal leaders

Rather than making idiotic ignorant statements just search “ UK constitution” to properly educate yourself.

[Fester]

1 hour ago, KRLMRX said:

let's be honest, these returning workers can do little to help the army other than scare the Russians with numbers.  

If the question arises about the number, it will not be difficult for Putin to explain the mobilization, and there will already be 150,000 volunteers in Russia.

What? Undertakers?

[Fester]

1 hour ago, KRLMRX said:

The issue of Donbass has already been resolved, it will become part of Russia.

The leadership of the DPR and LPR have already announced that they will soon hold a referendum, such things are not done without coordination with the Russian Federation.  

The same fate, perhaps, awaits Kherson, Zaporozhye, Odessa, Sumy and Kharkov, or they will become an independent state from Kyiv.

And perhaps this is all wishful thinking on your part?

[KRLMRX]

52 minutes ago, Alavan said:

Democratic held referendum won by 99%.

The people who would vote Ukrainian are gone, disappeared,  terrorised  or even murdered  like in Donbass

yes, just as they terrorize and expel Russian speakers from the regions controlled by Ukraine.

Such an evil grin of the civil war.

[KRLMRX]

1 hour ago, Fester said:

And perhaps this is all wishful thinking on your part?

no, this is open information that is not in the mainstream of Western media (ask yourself the question - why?)

https://www.plenglish.com/news/2022/03/27/lugansk-may-hold-referendum-on-becoming- part-of-russia/

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/pro-russian-leader-moves-form-city-administration-mariupol-201584

in the newly occupied territories of eastern Ukraine, the Russian military is appointing new leaders, flying Russian flags, and this is hardly a temporary measure.  

This video is from the city of Berdyansk, Zaporozhye region:

 

 

Edited April 3, 2022 by KRLMRX

[Fester]

3 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

no, this is open information that is not in the mainstream of Western media (ask yourself the question - why?)

https://www.plenglish.com/news/2022/03/27/lugansk-may-hold-referendum-on-becoming- part-of-russia/

https://www.defenseworld.net/?utm_source=404Redirect&utm_medium=404Redirect

in the newly occupied territories of eastern Ukraine, the Russian military is appointing new leaders, flying Russian flags, and this is hardly a temporary measure.  

This video is from the city of Berdyansk, Zaporozhye region:

Could be some old bag waving a flag anywhere. 

 

[KRLMRX]

25 minutes ago, Fester said:

Could be some old bag waving a flag anywhere. 

maybe. For you.

but the residents of Berdyansk will definitely recognize the building of the city administration.

and pro-Russian citizens will definitely recognize in the man with the flag the previously very famous russian singer Chicherina, who has been supporting Donbass for many years.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yulia_Chicherina

here she is, a couple of weeks ago, taking down the ukranians flag in the Russian-occupied city of Energodar

 

 

Edited April 3, 2022 by KRLMRX

[butterfly]

2 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

let's be honest, these returning workers can do little to help the army other than scare the Russians with numbers.

yes, an army of amateurs is not really a good way to defend yourself

that said, Putin also used sacrificial amateurs for the first phase of the invasion, maybe as a test of resistance before bringing the big guns and going full invasion

Zelensky needs to up his game, stop his whining Zoom tour, and start finding a real solution like a real leader would do

[oldschooler]

14 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

this is your private opinion. photo video and eyewitness accounts say otherwise.

Difficult to get much hard evidence with Expert FSB Spies, Saboteurs & Agitators involved. So we must consider both  “ balance of probability” ( civil test) AND “ beyond reasonable doubt” ( criminal test) criteria. These would indicate that all or most “ photo,  video, witness” evidence is simply fabricated by Russian FSB. Also , why would FSB NOT be involved ? Only one proper answer …….

[oldschooler]

10 minutes ago, butterfly said:

yes, an army of amateurs is not really a good way to defend yourself

that said, Putin also used sacrificial amateurs for the first phase of the invasion, maybe as a test of resistance before bringing the big guns and going full invasion

Zelensky needs to up his game, stop his whining Zoom tour, and start finding a real solution like a real leader would do

Clearly only Putin can stop this.

Ukraine & NATO & EU have a winning hand, have performed perfectly throughout and will simply continue bleeding Russia Dry …..until Putin Stops and can never return.

No Talking or Other Action Involved. 

Ukraine always expected to be Wrecked in any event. This way they are not also Controlled or Neutralized and will be Rebuilt with Russian Reparations. 
 

Oh, you didn’t realize this was the Plan all along ……. expected Ukraine to Fold ? Oh dear …. Can’t step away from the poker table then & cut your losses ?

[oldschooler]

4 hours ago, Stardust said:

Putting childrens on their tanks as a shield. This shows who they are the russian army and what kind of scum. People who defend these low life criminals are the same there can't be any apologize anymore or any tolerance

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/02/ukrainian-children-used-as-human-shields-near-kyiv-say-witness-reports

Unsurprising though. Russians have a word ( bledserel ?) for giving free rein for inhuman blood-letting carnage to their forces. Red Army raped all females 8-80 on way to Berlin in WW2. “Quora”Post on this.

[oldschooler]

4 hours ago, Fester said:

Looks like the Ukrainians were more ready than the Orcs. 

Russian Army think & behave like Orcs but, mercifully, lack Orcs Performance ……

[oldschooler]

17 hours ago, Fester said:

You are broadcasting a version of events that is voiced by Russia. 

No Equivalence. Western “Ukraine” reports must be accountable, subject to truth challenge, so tend to be 99% factual.

Russian reports are presumed 100% Lies ( unless corroborated by western sources….). It’s Only Fair & Logical ….

[oldschooler]

4 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

if the Saudis and other market participants have an agreement and will not increase production, then the disappearance of part of Russian oil from the market will lead to an increase in its cost. that is, even with lower sales volumes, Russia will earn more.

Offtopic, I'm done.

No. Saudi not the only source who can increase oil production or supply. USA just released massive oil stocks & price dropped. (Off Topic).

[oldschooler]

3 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

let's be honest, these returning workers can do little to help the army other than scare the Russians with numbers.  

If the question arises about the number, it will not be difficult for Putin to explain the mobilization, and there will already be 150,000 volunteers in Russia.

Human waves of cannon fodder used only by Russian & Chinese & Arab TYRANTS. Ukraine are NATO Trained / Equipped / Organized. That’s why so successful against shambolic Russians.

Ukraine will NOT put new troops in front line unless NATO Trained. Others would be used like security guards behind the lines.  

[oldschooler]

3 hours ago, Fanta said:

Don’t be so harsh. Unless they were strapping the kids onto the rear of the tanks, Mad Max style, then the Russians were just promoting goodwill by giving the youngsters a mechanical pony ride /s

Seriously though - if this is true then there cannot be any justification for this. Nobody thought to video this or grab a happy snap? In the same article it mentions sweet Ukrainian mothers feeding poisoned pies to Russian soldiers while the alleged kneecapping of Russian POWs seems to have been largely ignored by the same Western media keen to post every alleged outrage by the Russians. No side has a monopoly on brutality in war. They are all wrong. (cue outraged response in 3… 2… 1…)

Let’s just hope the peace talks are fruitful and that this is all over soon. 

Russia will be bled dry until THEY Stop & Leave. “ PeaceTalks” is Zelensky mocking Putin by parroting Putin “ peace” nonsense ….fooling no one ! 

[KRLMRX]

29 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

 

 

 

Edited April 3, 2022 by KRLMRX

[oldschooler]

3 hours ago, Fanta said:

Don’t be so harsh. Unless they were strapping the kids onto the rear of the tanks, Mad Max style, then the Russians were just promoting goodwill by giving the youngsters a mechanical pony ride /s

Seriously though - if this is true then there cannot be any justification for this. Nobody thought to video this or grab a happy snap? In the same article it mentions sweet Ukrainian mothers feeding poisoned pies to Russian soldiers while the alleged kneecapping of Russian POWs seems to have been largely ignored by the same Western media keen to post every alleged outrage by the Russians. No side has a monopoly on brutality in war. They are all wrong. (cue outraged response in 3… 2… 1…)

Let’s just hope the peace talks are fruitful and that this is all over soon. 

More “ equivalence” nonsense. Russia is Systematically Inhuman in Warfare.

Not Ukraine. Understandable Isolated Incidents against Brutal Invaders. Kneecapped ? Got off light then ….

[KRLMRX]

30 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

Unsurprising though. Russians have a word ( bledserel ?) for giving free rein for inhuman blood-letting carnage to their forces. Red Army raped all females 8-80 on way to Berlin in WW2. “Quora”Post on this.

this is a lie of the offended allies, who, a year before the victory USSR over Hitler, hastily joined the war so as not to be out of work.

And in order to somehow explain their cowardly impotence in the fight against Hitler, they came up with a myth about the cruelty of the Red Army and rape.

There are no facts to support this.

And for example, there is Dresden destroyed by US and UK air forces along with the inhabitants, it’s good that they weren’t raped:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II

 

Edited April 3, 2022 by KRLMRX

[Fanta]

6 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

No Equivalence. Western “Ukraine” reports must be accountable, subject to truth challenge, so tend to be 99% factual.

Russian reports are presumed 100% Lies ( unless corroborated by western sources….). It’s Only Fair & Logical ….

You think Ukrainian claims are presumed to be 99% true unless proven otherwise while Russian claims are the exact opposite. You deny the use of propaganda by Ukraine or NATO and deny any bias favoring Ukraine by Western media. And anyone that questions the Ukrainian & NATO messages is supportive of Russia.

That is neither fair or logical. 

[oldschooler]

2 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

это ложь обиженных союзников, которые за год до победы СССР над Гитлером спешно вступили в войну, чтобы не остаться не у дел.

И чтобы хоть как-то объяснить свое трусливое бессилие в борьбе с Гитлером, они придумали миф о жестокости Красной Армии и изнасилованиях.

Фактов, подтверждающих это, нет.

А например есть Дрезден уничтоженный вместе с жителями, хорошо что не изнасиловали:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II

Dresden had Legitimate  War Targets including Population who worked in Nazi War Machine Factories / Offices / Railways. No Precision Bombing Then. UK Bombing saved thousands of Russian Army Lives ! Element of Terror Bombing ? Yes and so what ?

This was Total War ; invented by German City Bombing & perfected / finished by British…… these devils were stuffing millions of humans into gas chambers ! ! And killing millions of Russians ! 

British Considered Carefully (as always) and Decided …. No Mercy ! ! Support Russia Ally too……

UK Bombers had 50% Casualty rate, similar to some Russian Army units ! 

[oldschooler]

7 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

this is a lie of the offended allies, who, a year before the victory USSR over Hitler, hastily joined the war so as not to be out of work.

And in order to somehow explain their cowardly impotence in the fight against Hitler, they came up with a myth about the cruelty of the Red Army and rape.

There are no facts to support this.

And for example, there is Dresden destroyed by US and UK air forces along with the inhabitants, it’s good that they weren’t raped:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II

So even Educated Russians believe the Absurd Soviet Lie to their ignorant people that Russia won WW2 ……by Itself ! And didn’t divide Poland with Hitler ? 
 

Heard Russian Tourists were surprised to find WW2 graves of British in France & Italy what were they doing there ? No knowledge of France Sea Invasion . Massively Complex & Risky. No Russians in France or Italy  of course nor in North Africa, Oceans, Burma, Pacific….. Russian fought ONLY outside those areas. 
 

Russia Then Incapable of Large Scale Sea or Air Warfare. Only Human Waves on Land!