I Am Ashamed of the UK

[cowslip]

10 minutes ago, SkipsPa said:

I don't think we should have joined in the first place!

Because things were so good back then?

[23RD]

Very disturbing this Left wing lunatic could become an MP after some of his previous comments.

 

[CROUCHIE]

On 11/12/2023 at 2:29 AM, oldschooler said:

All grossly selective and out of context. If talking economic not political integration then fine. We did that.
However, it was that Democracy was imposed on the defeated Fascist Germany & Italy and across all Western Europe by UK / US, and NATO formed, by those same above Politicians, against the Soviet Menace, that ensured European Peace.

Democracies don’t war on each other. No EU Required for that. Those weakened Democracies needed Serious Protection. Hello NATO. Again the EU not required nor fit for purpose. Basically it was the English Speaking Peoples protecting the compelled democratic weak Europeans….. and still is ffs….

European “ Family”  a non- existent myth. Europe THE most violent region for thousands of years until UK Defeated Napoleon 1815.Then again with the two World Wars.

Family ? Never. Some Shared Cultural Scientific Trade Education Affinity & Joit Development, yes certainly.
UK & European jointly scientists discovered nuclear energy for example. UK First to Industrialise though…..

British Advanced Civilised Culture has little in common with Backward Muslim Albania or Bosnia or Russified Bulgaria or goat herding Greeks, for example. Those places are closer to Muslim Asia in mindset.

EU resembles the defunct League of Nations and UN. Another failed ineffectual international experiment.

It was Capitalism and US Generosity that restored Western Europe €after WW2 and lifted Europeans “out of Poverty” not EU ! Recall an Italian colleague telling me how “ everything doubled in price” in Italy after the disastrous Euro introduced. Thankfully UK Opted Out of Euro as with Schengen….. 

The EU is all very well in theory; the right to travel, work, play etc. etc. I know a few UK dentists who were unable to live and work in France. The bureaucracy was horrendous, and in the end, a brick wall. Another friend is a pharmacist married to a Frenchman. In 15 years she has been unable to get registered. Documents are "lost", officials ignore her or just shrug, and delays are interminable! Brexit happened because Europe is an unwieldy, bureaucratic juggernaut with 27 countries that are racist.

[cowslip]

1 hour ago, CROUCHIE said:

The EU is all very well in theory; the right to travel, work, play etc. etc. I know a few UK dentists who were unable to live and work in France. The bureaucracy was horrendous, and in the end, a brick wall. Another friend is a pharmacist married to a Frenchman. In 15 years she has been unable to get registered. Documents are "lost", officials ignore her or just shrug, and delays are interminable! Brexit happened because Europe is an unwieldy, bureaucratic juggernaut with 27 countries that are racist.

In fact Brexit has meant a huge increase in bureaucracy for the UK.

The fact that you only can anecdotally cite only one country shows how blinkered your perception of Europe actually is.

I really can't get over how dumb and parochial  brexiteers are.

[ubangowlfarang]

On 11/10/2023 at 2:28 PM, PhuketBloke said:

It is the best thing we ever did, we had the guts to leave an unelected undemocratic union that imposed its mad social rules on us, I can imagine quite a few other countries want to leave but do not have the guts to do it.

There will be some financial costs to pay initially as is the case in any new move eg setting up a new business but I am proud of the Brits (Well it was the English and the Welsh really) for voting to leave as I did. 

 UK could just be like Poland and still be in Europe. You have been screw by Boris and farage.  No money for the NHS supposedly saved from leaving the EU Now you screwed all the manufacturers needing more red tape to sell to Europe. You have screwed the fishing industry and the list goes on.  And now you screwed UK by leaving for Thailand just like Mr Dyson shipping his hq to Singapore. Selfish Muppet.  Go back to UK and sort your country out. 

[PhuketBloke]

12 hours ago, ubangowlfarang said:

 UK could just be like Poland and still be in Europe. You have been screw by Boris and farage.  No money for the NHS supposedly saved from leaving the EU Now you screwed all the manufacturers needing more red tape to sell to Europe. You have screwed the fishing industry and the list goes on.  And now you screwed UK by leaving for Thailand just like Mr Dyson shipping his hq to Singapore. Selfish Muppet.  Go back to UK and sort your country out. 

It does not need sorting out thank you very much.

It was sorted out once it left the unelected autocratic EU.

A few minor glitches as we expected when setting up such a situation but the silent majority are happy. 

Wingers like you are a minority and ignored mostly. 

[23RD]

28 minutes ago, PhuketBloke said:

It does not need sorting out thank you very much.

It was sorted out once it left the unelected autocratic EU.

A few minor glitches as we expected when setting up such a situation but the silent majority are happy. 

Wingers like you are a minority and ignored mostly. 

Well said PB Bud The British fought two World Wars because we didn't want to be part of a United Europe under German control its something to be proud of that the majority of The British Electorate refused the 3rd attempt. 

[PhuketBloke]

52 minutes ago, 23RD said:

Well said PB Bud The British fought two World Wars because we didn't want to be part of a United Europe under German control its something to be proud of that the majority of The British Electorate refused the 3rd attempt. 

I am sure a lot of other countries wish to leave as well but they are too afraid. 

It has caused a few problems leaving but it was expected, it is no different to setting up a new business from scratch, there will be bumps and additional costs along the way.

Europe needs to export to us and we need to export to them so when everyone has stopped sulking after we left things will slowly be sorted out regarding trade.

[23RD]

10 minutes ago, PhuketBloke said:

I am sure a lot of other countries wish to leave as well but they are too afraid. 

It has caused a few problems leaving but it was expected, it is no different to setting up a new business from scratch, there will be bumps and additional costs along the way.

Europe needs to export to us and we need to export to them so when everyone has stopped sulking after we left things will slowly be sorted out regarding trade.

Definitely Bud European Countries joined a free trading block in 1974 not The Marxist EUSSR that its eventually become nobody voted for that. 

[Tippaporn]

Enjoy!

 

[PhuketBloke]

6 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Enjoy!

The unfortunate thing is many people will take the video you posted as real. 

There should be an intelligence test before someone is allowed to vote, it only needs to have one question, "Will you be voting for the Labour Party or Green Party", if the answer is yes then you are deemed to be too stupid to vote.

 

 

[cowslip]

2 hours ago, PhuketBloke said:

the video you posted as real.

so the video is "not real" - how so?

[SkipsPa]

On 1/18/2024 at 12:27 PM, cowslip said:

Because things were so good back then?

They were far better in my opinion! I'm 80 years old so have lived through it. Having a scientific background I was perfectly ok with the metric system, avoir dupois or anything else although I appreciate a lot found it confusing, but I think the British were ripped off with all the changes. I even recall greengocers, butchers etc being fined for still selling by  pounds rather than kilograms. On top of that we were then subject to European law instead of UK law.