News Forum - UKRAINE UPDATES

[oldschooler]

13 minutes ago, Fanta said:

Incapable of combat is a loss of effectiveness as detailed above. 10% loss is destroyed oldschooler said? Glad he’s not leading any unit or the Ukrainians would have been destroyed already. Do some still believe that the Russians are out of food, fuel and munitions? Can anyone explain why the tanks are still moving forward or are they simply stranded and, if so, why aren’t they being easily destroyed as sitting ducks usually are? Where are the claimed 16,000 Russian corpses stacked up like cordwood? The floods of Russians deserters fleeing the relentless slaughter with no equipment or hope? 

If tanks assessed as out of fuel & ammo and unlikely to receive any soon, then no need to take risks to destroy those …they are already out of the game .
 

Said 10% is “ decimated” ( actual definition) . Ventured the apparent 25% Russian losses would mean “destroyed” ( as a viable force).

That was countered with 30% “ casualties “ reaching point of “combat ineffective.”. 

RS then pointed out that with no fuel or ammo even 100% force is completely ineffective.

As to location of the claimed 25% Russian Casualties. Who Cares ?

They are either in the game or not.

Killed Wounded Prisoners Deserters is Out.

[KRLMRX]

2 hours ago, oldschooler said:

Then” they” would be talking out their arse, “deserving” shooting on sight like the Nazis they are.

your Cheka Nazi  style disregard for innocent defenseless human life has reached Hitler Extermination Squad levels, as has pathetic Russian Army of course., good for nothing else ….

bad behavior” by civilians by Russian standards would I suppose mean all activities involving not surrendering to and worshipping on their knees to butchering Russians and not trusting them to kill rape torture you on whim. 

civilian non-compliance met by death sentence including babies, young kids, oldsters. Remind you of any other death worshipping cult … ISIS , AlQueda, Hamas ? Yeah it’s the same.

Russians again copying their long term Genocidal Masters, Occupiers & Idols, the Mongols. 

Russians are also Thieves by history & culture. Only way to survive when your Biggest Thief Ruler Putin holds you in utter contempt as ordinary citizen.
You do know he takes 50% of all Russian big transaction values personally……don’t you? 

Russian General Suicided when on his watch 9/10 tanks found unserviceable as cannibleized for stolen spares. 

What kind of Thief are you Karl ?

What kind of barbaric merciless culture is it that you pathetically glorify ? 
 

If not answering properly, your typical mode, can you not just shut up and clear off to your Gulag Chief day job ? 

if so, why does the Russian army not destroy Ukrainian cities with MLRS? it would definitely destroy the maximum number of civilians

and why do you hate so many other peoples? than the Mongols did not please you?

[Rookiescot]

6 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

ultimately, not in a particular person, but in the system of relations between people, primarily industrial relations.  

this invasion also does not target civilians, otherwise we would see millions of victims in a country of 40 million.  

What prevented the Russian army to strike at the residential areas of Lvov tonight, and not at the fuel and lubricants base?

One person ordered the invasion of the Ukraine. Czar Putin. He is responsible for ALL the deaths that ensue. Especially now that his ground war has faltered and all he does is shell civilian areas.

Lvov is an example of how badly things are going for Czar Putin. His army should be in the town center not attacking it with stand off weapons.

[KRLMRX]

35 minutes ago, vlad said:

If the Tanks are rolling Fanta why have they not entered kiev ? or Mariupol. Or as i presume there running low breaking down due to poor maintenance or simply shit scared knowing Anti-tank missiles are ready for them.

why do you reject the version that they are just waiting, while the rear stocks of weapons and materials are being destroyed?  

Or maybe such a task is not worth it at all?

[Rookiescot]

18 minutes ago, 23RD said:

Excellent point Fanta The Russians planned this incursion for months if their worth their salt they probably they would have carried out Planning exercises, table top exercises,ROC drills,  planned for  the  best and worse  case scenarios  and as seen on numerous channels  conducted rehearsals on the Russian and Belarus side of the Border prior to the start of hostilities. 

I don't their believe their running out of fuel ammo and rations as Russian and Belarus border Ukraine and their MSR's are open 

Also casualty figures well over inflated 16'000 dead Russians that would be a massive attrition rate.

They reached their stage 1 objectives probably a lot later than they wanted due to the excellent prior planning and preparation of the Ukrainian Military. 

To many Civillian pundits on the TV talking about things they don't know about. 

They have still not achieved their stage 1 objectives. Why do you think they tried to capture the airports outside Kyiv using special forces? Its because they wanted to take Kyiv within the first 24 hours.

That way they could turn round and say to the rest of the world hey its job done nothing to see here.

But thats not how it worked out. They couldnt hold the airfields. Ergo stage one is STILL not complete.

Go back to what you are good at. Stack some blankets. 

[oldschooler]

13 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

ultimately, not in a particular person, but in the system of relations between people, primarily industrial relations.  

this invasion also does not target civilians, otherwise we would see millions of victims in a country of 40 million.  

What prevented the Russian army to strike at the residential areas of Lvov tonight, and not at the fuel and lubricants base?

Lack of Resources, Fuel Stolen. Anti Tank Weapons, Priorities, Incompetence, Military Gains Needed, Tired of Killing Kids,New Commander;  who knows or cares. Not possible to kill “millions” in five weeks especially with incompetent kill squads

” system of relations” flattened those inhabited cities ? No. Putin & His Terror Bombing Did That. Killed or Moved Entire  City Populations to kill a few poorly armed fighters with little infrastructure…….

[KRLMRX]

35 minutes ago, vlad said:

Are you Accepting now western media are reporting true facts such as A Russian Troopship being destroyed by Ukrainian forces, and has this news of the sinking been released on Russian TV ?

I accept any information that has confirmation.  

Western media, of course, report on the losses of the Russian army, because they only cover events from one side.

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, KRLMRX said:

why do you reject the version that they are just waiting, while the rear stocks of weapons and materials are being destroyed?  

Or maybe such a task is not worth it at all?

So you admit the mighty Russian war machine is being held or indeed reversed in some places.

The Blitzkrieg from Czar Putin has failed. Even in Donbas where they are supposed to be "liberators".  

[Rookiescot]

5 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

I accept any information that has confirmation.  

Western media, of course, report on the losses of the Russian army, because they only cover events from one side.

Has it been covered on Russian TV?

[KRLMRX]

21 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

One person ordered the invasion of the Ukraine. Czar Putin. He is responsible for ALL the deaths that ensue. Especially now that his ground war has faltered and all he does is shell civilian areas.

Lvov is an example of how badly things are going for Czar Putin. His army should be in the town center not attacking it with stand off weapons.

it's good that we have you and a few other people who know exactly what is in Putin's head.

[Rookiescot]

Just now, KRLMRX said:

it's good that we have you and a few other people who know exactly what is in Putin's head.

I dont have to be inside his head to know it was HIM who ordered the invasion of the Ukraine.

[oldschooler]

16 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

if so, why does the Russian army not destroy Ukrainian cities with MLRS? it would definitely destroy the maximum number of civilians

and why do you hate so many other peoples? than the Mongols did not please you?

Just more predictable nonsense, evasion & deflection……

 

 

[oldschooler]

11 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

it's good that we have you and a few other people who know exactly what is in Putin's head.

Nobody Cares about Putins Alternate Reality …except his Oligarch & Military Poodles. Only his Real World actions matter.

[23RD]

10 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

And you claim to be an NBC expert? If your forces are 8 miles away from the outskirts of Kyiv there is nothing to prevent you putting in a chemical attack on the center of Kyiv.

Delivery system weather conditions consistently of the agent persistent or non persistent. 

But again it's never going to happen it's an MSM talking point their mission is to create a buffer zone on their western flank and if could read the Battle picture you'd see that.

[KRLMRX]

11 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

Lack of Resources, Fuel Stolen. Anti Tank Weapons, Priorities, Incompetence, Military Gains Needed, Tired of Killing Kids,New Commander;  who knows or cares. Not possible to kill “millions” in five weeks especially with incompetent kill squads

” system of relations” flattened those inhabited cities ? No. Putin & His Terror Bombing Did That. Killed or Moved Entire  City Populations to kill a few poorly armed fighters with little infrastructure…….

So why a fuel depot and not residential areas? after all, the goal is to kill civilians as much as possible.

If there are few missiles, then it is reasonable to use the remaining ones against civilians.

The fuel is in place, because the rockets have arrived.

Anti-tank weapons are powerless against cruise missiles.

The priority is killing civilians, you say. Incompetence, that is, they missed, but they hit the fuel depot exactly. Miracles happen.

The best military achievement is to destroy the city, because the goal is to kill civilians.

Not Tired of Killing adults

The new commander sabotages the task of killing civilians as much as possible, and this in an authoritarian army is possible, but unlikely.

So, none of your arguments work.

[Fanta]

21 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

The Blitzkrieg from Czar Putin has failed. Even in Donbas where they are supposed to be "liberators".  

The Russians were at the border for months before they invaded. Televised daily. That’s not conducive to a lightning attack aka Blitzkrieg. There was plenty of time for Ukraine to get their forces in place. Now the war is outside the cities and cities with dug in, supplied defenders always take longer to conquer than open ground. 

[KRLMRX]

29 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

So you admit the mighty Russian war machine is being held or indeed reversed in some places.

The Blitzkrieg from Czar Putin has failed. Even in Donbas where they are supposed to be "liberators".  

this is fighting. Of course, somewhere they meet resistance.

but not you, not me, we don’t know for sure the original plans of the Russian army.

[Rookiescot]

7 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

this is fighting. Of course, somewhere they meet resistance.

but not you, not me, we don’t know for sure the original plans of the Russian army.

Have a word with your mate 23RD. He seems to know all about the original plans of Czar Putins army.

[Fanta]

4 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Why did Czar Putin try and capture and hold the airfields outside Kyiv using special forces? Why would he do that rather than just rendering them inoperable?

Where is he supposed to land, refuel, rearm maintain his helicopters? Drop supplies and soldiers? Back behind the border so everyone has to turn around and go home at night? 

[Smithydog]

You read a lot when a crisis is happening. For example, statements like this:

"When clarifying the developments unfolding, the Russian Defense Ministry reassured that Russian troops are not targeting Ukrainian cities, but are limited to surgically striking and incapacitating Ukrainian military infrastructure. There are no threats whatsoever to the civilian population."

Source is an article today on the website for Tass. https://tass.com/politics/1427373 

Satellite photos of the before and after surgical strikes not targeting a Ukraine City.

Sure doesn't look like military infrastructure.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-war-kyiv-mariupol-under-attack-biden-visits-europe-10-latest-development-on-invasion-2839801

[23RD]

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

Tell me something oh guru of warfare. Why did Czar Putin try and capture and hold the airfields outside Kyiv using special forces?

Possibly to deny them to the Ukrainian Military but more likely to use as an HLS from CASEVAC , Resupply purposes. 

 

6 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

So here you giving it large with your "knowledge" of all things military (

Thank you it could have been you  if you'd joined The Infantry but never mind as are American friends would say 'Thank you for your service ' even limited service like your own. 

[Rookiescot]

4 minutes ago, Fanta said:

Where is he supposed to land, refuel, rearm maintain his helicopters? Drop supplies and soldiers? Back behind the border so everyone has to turn around and go home at night? 

Are you up to speed with the reasons why he would try that or are you still stuck in the 1800's?

[Fester]

14 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

this is fighting. Of course, somewhere they meet resistance.

but not you, not me, we don’t know for sure the original plans of the Russian army.

It looks like the Russians either don’t know, or can't remember, their original plans either.

Phase 1 complete my ash.

[KRLMRX]

39 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Has it been covered on Russian TV?

I answered you, I don't watch Russian TV.  this information was in the pro-Russian news Telegram channels.

[Fanta]

1 minute ago, Smithydog said:

You read a lot when a crisis is happening. For example, statements like this:

"When clarifying the developments unfolding, the Russian Defense Ministry reassured that Russian troops are not targeting Ukrainian cities, but are limited to surgically striking and incapacitating Ukrainian military infrastructure. There are no threats whatsoever to the civilian population."

Source is an article today on the website for Tass. https://tass.com/politics/1427373 

Satellite photos of the before and after surgical strikes not targeting a Ukraine City.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSSasHJwWyMTlptZSD89NYBhvf97UezCI83Ng&usqp=CAU

Sure doesn't look like military infrastructure.

https://c.ndtvimg.com/2022-03/s2c722gk_ukraine-war-unian_120x90_24_March_22.jpg

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/russia-ukraine-war-kyiv-mariupol-under-attack-biden-visits-europe-10-latest-development-on-invasion-2839801

This is a sad consequence of war. Where are the Ukraine forces? In the surrounding fields? No, they are in the cities defending them so that is where the Russians will attack. And there are still a million civilians in Mariupol so if the Russians are targeting civilians why aren’t at least 10% of them dead? 100,000 dead civilians. These accusations of a Holocaust type systematic attack against civilians just don’t stack up when compared to the Ukrainians claimed losses. They should all just go to a big field and fight to the death but that’s not how war works.