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On 3/5/2022 at 5:22 PM, Sparktrader said:

Asshole NATO and asshole USA started this. Crazy lunatic asshole Putin escalated it into war. And now who dies? Ukrainian civilians, Ukrainian soldiers, and Russian kids that Putin sends to war.

One has to see beyond what the medias try to make one believe.

We must not forget that in the 1990s, Bush's secretary of state, James Baker, promised then Soviet premier Gorbachev, "not one inch eastward" referring to NATO. But ever since NATO has expanded non-stop, we've put Ukrainians in jeopardy ourselves, more so knowing what a madman is Putin. And now we pretend we care about Ukrainians by making a show on Sky News, yet Ukrainians are dying by the second. 

NATO or the US did not start this. NATO doesn't force anyone to join. They allow countries to apply for membership.

Regardless, Putin's own speech around the time the invasion started revealed that this isn't abuot NATO at all. It's all imperialism on Russia's part.

Your story about the 1990s is interesting and all, but not very relevant. Not least because there was no actual agreement, and of course because NATO doesn't expand itself as such. It allows countries to apply for memberhip of their own free will.

On 3/6/2022 at 11:39 AM, butterfly said:

the poor Ukrainian people have been sacrificed for the well being of NATO, the US and the cowardice of the EU27

well done Putin for exposing us for what we are, we created that conflict when we had all the tools to "disarm" it

check mate

I have to ask you to please stop parroting Russian lies and propaganda. Putin himself admitted in his war speech that this isn't about NATO at all. Also, NATO doesn't expand (which is an something you actively do). It allows for countries to apply for membership. They have never forced anyone to join.

Putin only exposed himself, as a liar, madman, dictator and imperialist. Anyone who tries to put blame on anyone else is just another supporter of Russian imperialism.

By the way, an article accidentally published by Russia confirms that it's all about imperialism. NATO is just in the way of that imperialism.

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/brave-new-world-of-putin-an-article-by-the-propaganda-publication-ria-novosti-which-was-to-be-published-after-the-occupation-of-ukraine/

Edited by Guphz
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