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[Thaidup]

Was Putin right about de-Nazifying Ukraine?

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[Rookiescot]

6 minutes ago, Thaidup said:

Was Putin right about de-Nazifying Ukraine?

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You can find very similar images from Russia and Belarus. Putin supporters the lot of them.

Maybe his crusade should have started closer to home.

[vlad]

As the Russian fleet can only enter through Turkish waters via Istanbul to launch their troop movement and their capability to launch cruise missiles from their ships. Turkey should enforce a blockade to shipping trapping the Russian fleet in the Black Sea and not allowing them to leave.

[Fester]

22 minutes ago, vlad said:

As the Russian fleet can only enter through Turkish waters via Istanbul to launch their troop movement and their capability to launch cruise missiles from their ships. Turkey should enforce a blockade to shipping trapping the Russian fleet in the Black Sea and not allowing them to leave.

Russia won't be shifting any of its Black Sea Fleet anytime soon. The Russian fleet there is permanent and it has recently been reinforced. It is very difficult for Turkey to stop traffic through the Bosphorus without entering the conflict themselves - see links.

https://warontherocks.com/2019/01/the-naval-power-shift-in-the-black-sea/

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/25/cannot-stop-russian-warships-returning-in-black-sea-turkey

[KRLMRX]

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

You can find very similar images from Russia and Belarus. Putin supporters the lot of them.

Maybe his crusade should have started closer to home.

right. but still, at the official level, neo-Nazi ideology is condemned in Russia.

On the other hand, the ideology of adherence to anti-fascism, the continuity of tsarist Russia with its openly fascist heralds and, at the same time, sprinkled with anti-communism, are very strangely combined.

In Ukraine, there is only a bifurcation of ideology - European values of freedom plus the adoption of an openly Nazi agenda.

[Rookiescot]

5 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

right. but still, at the official level, neo-Nazi ideology is condemned in Russia.

On the other hand, the ideology of adherence to anti-fascism, the continuity of tsarist Russia with its openly fascist heralds and, at the same time, sprinkled with anti-communism, are very strangely combined.

In Ukraine, there is only a bifurcation of ideology - European values of freedom plus the adoption of an openly Nazi agenda.

So why do all those neo-nazi's in Russia worship Putin.

The rest of your post is simply projection.

[EdwardV]

6 hours ago, Poolie said:

It wont unless America decides it will.

You mean unless Putin decides it will. After all he would be the one firing them off, that’s usually the way blame is assigned . I do understand you think otherwise. 

[oldschooler]

“ Only the dead have seen the end of war” Plato (2500 years ago).

 

[oldschooler]

59 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

So why do all those neo-nazi's in Russia worship Putin.

The rest of your post is simply projection.

Putin, Xi, Zelensky have no Ideology only Extreme Nationalism used for Power aka Nazism /  Fascism. Zelensky cloaks Nationalism with democracy. Ukraine , China & Russia are similarly Corrupt. Putins Nationalism is Naked. Xi alone has mirrored Hitler with Genocide. Very rich indeed then for Putin to accuse Ukraine of Nazism when they have both long endorsed fascist policies & practices….Ukraine at least has a duly elected democratic leader, with pro- Russian prior Putin hack driven out by popular widespread internal insurrection after he dismissed their dreams of western (EU) alignment. 

[KRLMRX]

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

So why do all those neo-nazi's in Russia worship Putin.

The rest of your post is simply projection.

open neo-Nazis do not support, they are in an underground position, latent ones believe that Putin is a patriot, an imperialist, and so on.

[oldschooler]

6 hours ago, Poolie said:

Depends of course what you're watching.

“Media” right ? Again. No, it doesn’t “ depend” on anything other than whose  tanks & missiles are, without any true “ provocation “, invading a sovereign nation & murdering civilians. Unless of course you are of the “ words are violence” school of >unidentified slang term< anti-west thought

[oldschooler]

3 hours ago, vlad said:

I watched the United Nations speeches last night which this incident was brought up. What a stupid pathetic answer the Russian minister gave out. He said that APC was not ours as we don't have them anymore there obsolete. And the lying Russian pm sent a missile into a residential area in Kyiv hitting an Apartment block obviously a military target.

As ever, tyrants are not accountable to their people so lie like breathing and brutalize their defenseless “enemies”.  

[oldschooler]

25 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

open neo-Nazis do not support, they are in an underground position, latent ones believe that Putin is a patriot, an imperialist, and so on.

Surely we are not concerned here with fringe lunatics ….. obliged if we could get back on topic with Ukraine Putin NATO.

[oldschooler]

3 hours ago, Thaidup said:

Was Putin right about de-Nazifying Ukraine?

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Can we now get serious again? As if such staged photos of neo nazis have any relevance at national or geopolitical levels . Do they hold any govt. power ? Thought Not. Suggest we get back on central topic : Ukraine Putin NATO. What happens once Putin controls Ukraine ?

[Tim_Melb]

2 hours ago, vlad said:

As the Russian fleet can only enter through Turkish waters via Istanbul to launch their troop movement and their capability to launch cruise missiles from their ships. Turkey should enforce a blockade to shipping trapping the Russian fleet in the Black Sea and not allowing them to leave.

Do you think Erdoğan has the balls to take on Russia when Putin has made it clear he will nuke anyone that interferes? I don't think so. 

[EdwardV]

25 minutes ago, Tim_Melb said:

Do you think Erdoğan has the balls to take on Russia when Putin has made it clear he will nuke anyone that interferes? I don't think so. 

No and Putin isn’t nuking anyone. It’s a hollow but splashy threat. 

[Faz]

4 hours ago, Tim_Melb said:

Did I say it was a "tank"?

The link you supplied to the article stated 'Russian Tank'.

The incident took place in the Obolonskyi district of Kyiv, whilst it was reported the Russian were on the northern outskirts of the city. If it was a Russian vehicle why didn't it attack the other vehicles passing at the time. Where was the white 'Z'  associated with markings on Russian vehicles?
It was Ukrainian locals that later reported it was a Ukrainian armoured vehicle and the driver lost control.

[KRLMRX]

47 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

What happens once Putin controls Ukraine ?

he will install a loyal government.  Judging by the media, the stake is being placed on the Opposition Platform for Life party, a strange political force headed by Putin's daughter's godfather (Mr. Medvedchuk).

[Mudshark]

Reports have claimed two Ilyushin Il -76 transports have been shot down by Ukrainian forces. Both were reported to be carrying airborne troops. This as Soviet Russian forces are moving slower than anticipated.

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In other news, Putin makes ominous threats to both Sweden & Finland on Friday. 

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[KRLMRX]

7 minutes ago, Mudshark said:

Reports have claimed two Ilyushin Il -76 transports have been shot down by Ukrainian forces. Both were reported to be carrying airborne troops. This as Soviet Russian forces are moving slower than anticipated.

In other news, Putin makes ominous threats to both Sweden & Finland on Friday. 

now a lot of things are being reported, but fortunately there is almost no evidence of deaths.

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[oldschooler]

20 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

he will install a loyal government.  Judging by the media, the stake is being placed on the Opposition Platform for Life party, a strange political force headed by Putin's daughter's godfather (Mr. Medvedchuk).

Interesting / Informative thanks. Will Putin perhaps then partition Ukraine into Russian East & (Neutral/ Demilitarized) Ukrainian West ? 

[KRLMRX]

4 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

Interesting / Informative thanks. Will Putin perhaps then partition Ukraine into Russian East & (Neutral/ Demilitarized) Ukrainian West ? 

again, judging by the Russian media, this is one of the options on Putin's table

[oldschooler]

3 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

again, judging by the Russian media, this is one of the options on Putin's table

Thanks. Really hope that happens quickly thus correcting the original but understandable Russian error of “ releasing “ Ukraine into independence without first incorporating all “ Russian” areas ! 

[KRLMRX]

26 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

Thanks. Really hope that happens quickly thus correcting the original but understandable Russian error of “ releasing “ Ukraine into independence without first incorporating all “ Russian” areas ! 

I didn’t think that I would ever agree with you, but it seems that such a development of events will be better for everyone

- for President Zelensky (he will retain power and will be able to continue trading with Europe with his desire for freedom),

- for Putin (the hero of the victory over the West and savior of the Russian world),

- for vegetarian Europe - the nightmare is over, you can trade again,

- and, most importantly, for the inhabitants of Ukraine, they will finally stop killing them.

Edited February 26, 2022 by KRLMRX