I Am Ashamed of the UK

[Pinetree]

1 hour ago, Thaidup said:

You guys effed up back in 1948, giving citizenship away.

Not my doing, I wasn't even born then 

[PhuketBloke]

On 12/18/2023 at 3:52 AM, oldschooler said:

USA & Pacific are mentioned. Context was countering a post that SU liberated Europe and West did “ little fighting”. I was actually informed by a Russian that SU liberated all Europe without western allies.Had never heard of DDay…..

I bet he had heard of D-Day, it was June 1944, a year before the end of the war in Europe,  the Germans had almost been defeated at that point by Russia, and the West was only just out of the phony war period.

They did do some fighting in the places you mentioned but it was not that significant.

Even at that point in 1944 Churchill did not want to commit to D-Day but was forced to do so by the Americans, D-Day aimed to stop the Russians from getting past Berlin and taking over Western countries. 

The British and Americans were experts at bombing old men, women, and children though, especially with the use of incendiary bombs dropped on populated cities. 

But as I said originally it was the Americans who did the bulk of the fighting in Asia, were the Americans just consumers of bullets during those battles too as you labeled the Russians? 

The use of the nuclear bombs was three-fold, to save an estimated 1 million American soldiers from death or injury during the invasion of mainland Japan,  two to shorten the war so the Russians could not invade Japan (their neighbours)  and thus gain more territory, and three, to tell the Russians to do as they were told after the war as they could see a cold war period would start immediatly after WW2 was over. 

 

[Boonmee]

On 11/9/2023 at 10:43 AM, Pinetree said:

I am ashamed, embarrassed, disgusted and angry about the UK,  Reasons:

The Covid mess and the Inquiry evidence

Boris and his bunch of incompetent's, who are still in power

HS2, Heathrow, All UK Airports, BA, the rail system, the horribly inadequate road system, pathetic fast internet coverage, water companies incompetence 

An incompetent Civil Service

A destroyed military.

Inclusion and diversity madness.

A feckless, lazy, WFH obsessed workforce, who want above inflation pay rises to do less work.

A broken banking and insurance industry

A corrupt, incompetent Police Service allowing terrorist sympathizers to hold a rally on Remembrance Day and won't react to burglaries, and do nothing about the  Stop Oil lunatics blocking the Kings Highway. 

Thank goodness I am out of the place and I will never go back, not even to visit.   A 'First World Country'?  I think not.  

You neglected the Bad Teeth!

After all this time, y'all still have some pathetic smiles!

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[PhuketBloke]

10 minutes ago, Boonmee said:

You neglected the Bad Teeth!

After all this time, y'all still have some pathetic smiles!

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You must be an American and is confusing real life with what you see in films.

American actors and actresses do have false teeth implanted, the British actors do not generally but films are not real life.

As far as I could see when I worked in the US a few times, the common person there spent most of their money on food as could be seen by their super fat bodies, most people did not have Hollywood-style teeth and smiles. 

Edited January 6 by PhuketBloke
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[Boonmee]

1 minute ago, PhuketBloke said:

You must be an American and is confusing real life with what you see in films.

American actors and actresses do have false teeth implanted, the British actors do not generally but films are not real life.

As far as I could see when I worked in the US a few times, the common person there spent most of their money on food as could be seen by their super fat bodies, most people did not all have Hollywood-style teeth and smiles. 

Sorry bud, but I worked in the North Sea out of Aberdeen for several years and besides the local habit of "Grab a Granny" at the local pubs, what also stood out were the 'meth mouths'.  Thru no fault of your own but dentistry and the diet, generates a sad smile. 

[PhuketBloke]

9 minutes ago, Boonmee said:

Sorry bud, but I worked in the North Sea out of Aberdeen for several years and besides the local habit of "Grab a Granny" at the local pubs, what also stood out were the 'meth mouths'.  Thru no fault of your own but dentistry and the diet, generates a sad smile. 

I see you are talking of the country of Scotland, what goes on there has nothing to do with us English folk, it is an entirely different country to our own country and has its own culture which is different to ours.

Also, I suspect local workers who support oil rig workers are not the most educated of people. 

Take universities for a start, of the top ten universities in the world Scotland has none, the USA (332 million people) has seven and the very small country of England (56 million people)  has the other three, pro rata that means England would have the top 17 universities if it had the same population as the USA.

[Boonmee]

On 1/6/2024 at 3:40 PM, PhuketBloke said:

I see you are talking of the country of Scotland, what goes on there has nothing to do with us English folk, it is an entirely different country to our own country and has its own culture which is different to ours.

Also, I suspect local workers who support oil rig workers are not the most educated of people. 

Take universities for a start, of the top ten universities in the world Scotland has none, the USA (332 million people) has seven and the very small country of England (56 million people)  has the other three, pro rata that means England would have the top 17 universities if it had the same population as the USA.

Spent some time in Wales too.  Tipped a few at the Miner's Hall where Tom Jones got his start.  Horrible teeth there as well...

[cowslip]

 

Americans

• 40% avoid sugar

• 51% brush for two minutes twice a day

• 7.31 missing teeth

British

• 53% avoid sugar

• 64% brush for two minutes twice a day

• 6.97 missing teeth

 

[PhuketBloke]

7 hours ago, Boonmee said:

Spent some time in Wales too.  Tipped a few at the Miner's Hall where Tom Jones got his start.  Horrible teeth there as well...

Erm, Wales is not in England too, the Americans are pretty useless at geography as far as my experience of some of them goes.

When I was working in Dallas in 1991 some people used to ask me all sorts of silly questions about Europe, is Paris in England for example? 

On Thanks Giving day as you know is an American celebration I was eating Turkey in the works canteen and a waitress asked me if we have turkeys in England, I said no this is the first time I have ever seen one.

One asked me if we have credit cards in England, and I said no we still barter with sheep and cows.

I thought here I am with fifteen Germans,  testing the software we had written for the national mail sorting system that the American post office had bought from a German company, it was a distributed national system using image recognition of the written address information and she was asking me if we have credit cards, funny. 

Edited January 8 by PhuketBloke
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[PhuketBloke]

7 minutes ago, PhuketBloke said:

Erm, Wales is not in England too, the Americans are pretty useless at geography as far as my experience of some of them goes.

When I was working in Dallas in 1991 some people used to ask me all sorts of silly questions about Europe, is Paris in England for example? 

On Thanks Giving day as you know is an American celebration I was eating Turkey in the works canteen and a waitress asked me if we have turkeys in England, I said no this is the first time I have ever seen one.

One asked me if we have credit cards in England, and I said no we still barter with sheep and cows.

I thought here I am with fifteen Germans,  testing the software we had written for the national mail sorting system that the American post office had bought from a German company, it was a distributed national system using image recognition of the written address information and she was asking me if we have credit cards, funny. 

p.s. At the time only 5% of Americans held a passport, it is now about 48% but I think most do not travel outside of North or South America. 

[23RD]

Some good points about bad teeth in The UK probably because of the lack of Dentist in the IHS (International Health Service).

Just another one of many reasons why I'm happy to live in Thailand more Dentist than 7/11's in Pattaya. 

[PhuketBloke]

3 minutes ago, 23RD said:

Some good points about bad teeth in The UK probably because of the lack of Dentist in the IHS (International Health Service).

Just another one of many reasons why I'm happy to live in Thailand more Dentist than 7/11's in Pattaya. 

Most people do not use the NHS for dentistry work, there are more than enough dentists to go around.

This is yet another fake fact about the UK by winging ex-pat English guys.

[PhuketBloke]

7 minutes ago, 23RD said:

Some good points about bad teeth in The UK probably because of the lack of Dentist in the IHS (International Health Service).

Just another one of many reasons why I'm happy to live in Thailand more Dentist than 7/11's in Pattaya. 

P.S.

I can imagine there are lots of dentists needed in Pattaya, some sexually transmitted diseases do make your teeth rot and fall out. 

[Boonmee]

On 1/6/2024 at 3:00 PM, Boonmee said:

I am ashamed, embarrassed, disgusted and angry about the UK, 

Erm...the locus of this discussion is...drumroll please...the UK and its populace of generally bad teeth.

Back when Thai Visa was a viable forum and interesting topics such as "How can you tell where someone is from", there was a topic that went viral that caused much angst among you blokes from Blighty.  That being 'bad teeth' was the signpost of denizens of the UK. 

By the way, yes, there's a cornucopia of Dentists here in LOS but really, would you actually subject yourself to 90% of these quacks?  Afraid this poster would go to a qualified person such as they employ at Bumrungrad... 

[PhuketBloke]

5 minutes ago, Boonmee said:

Erm...the locus of this discussion is...drumroll please...the UK and its populace of generally bad teeth.

Back when Thai Visa was a viable forum and interesting topics such as "How can you tell where someone is from", there was a topic that went viral that caused much angst among you blokes from Blighty.  That being 'bad teeth' was the signpost of denizens of the UK. 

By the way, yes, there's a cornucopia of Dentists here in LOS but really, would you actually subject yourself to 90% of these quacks?  Afraid this poster would go to a qualified person such as they employ at Bumrungrad... 

I can imagine the mix-up.

Years ago I was flying to Germany and was chatting to a Spanish guy sitting next to me.

After a while, he asked if I was English, I said yes, but you are polite and do not drink too much or swear every sentence he said.

Then I twigged on, he was referring to the rabble of Brits who holiday in Spain, end up drunk, fighting, etc and probably have bad teeth as they spend all of their money on beer and smokes.

I did visit Pattaya once from my house in Rayong, what a rabble they are, unkempt tattoo-covered louts chasing after Issan bar girls, not the type I want to mix with so yes, I can imagine the type of people who holiday or live in such places like Pattaya do have bad teeth.

They used to exist here in Phuket but seeing as it now caters to families, groups, and coupes and has become more expensive the rabble has moved to Pattaya.

There used to be an advert on TV in the UK about Carlsberg Beer, the punch line was, "reassuringly expensive", that is how I feel about Phuket, more expensive but rabble free. 

[23RD]

39 minutes ago, PhuketBloke said:

Most people do not use the NHS for dentistry work, there are more than enough dentists to go around.

This is yet another fake fact about the UK by winging ex-pat English guys.

I haven't used an NHS Dentist since School back in Swansea PB I had annual dental and pre deployment dental inspections in The Army between 16 and 40 and since retirement I've had regular checkups in Pattaya. 

However speaking to relatives and Veterans back in The UK it's a  mission to get a  Dentist or Doctor's appointment especially now as The Junior Doctor's strike is ongoing maybe those Doctor's and Dentist shouldn't be treating folk who haven't paid into the pot and there would be more money for wages.

[PhuketBloke]

9 minutes ago, 23RD said:

I haven't used an NHS Dentist since School back in Swansea PB I had annual dental and pre deployment dental inspections in The Army between 16 and 40 and since retirement I've had regular checkups in Pattaya. 

However speaking to relatives and Veterans back in The UK it's a  mission to get a  Dentist or Doctor's appointment especially now as The Junior Doctor's strike is ongoing maybe those Doctor's and Dentist shouldn't be treating folk who haven't paid into the pot and there would be more money for wages.

Do you mean people like the unemployed or the millions who get tax credits and pay no tax at all?

We wealthy ones should be the only ones who have the right to see a doctor or a dentist?

[23RD]

12 minutes ago, PhuketBloke said:

Do you mean people like the unemployed or the millions who get tax credits and pay no tax at all?

We wealthy ones should be the only ones who have the right to see a doctor or a dentist?

No I mean the couple of Million (and that's a conservative estimate) who have no right to treatment at the taxpayers expense. 

The same type of folk that refuse to stay in former Military Barracks because its not good enough for them. 

[PhuketBloke]

47 minutes ago, Boonmee said:

Erm...the locus of this discussion is...drumroll please...the UK and its populace of generally bad teeth.

Back when Thai Visa was a viable forum and interesting topics such as "How can you tell where someone is from", there was a topic that went viral that caused much angst among you blokes from Blighty.  That being 'bad teeth' was the signpost of denizens of the UK. 

By the way, yes, there's a cornucopia of Dentists here in LOS but really, would you actually subject yourself to 90% of these quacks?  Afraid this poster would go to a qualified person such as they employ at Bumrungrad... 

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32883893 re British teeth hygiene.

My two sons are around 30 years old and neither one of them has ever had a filling or a tooth out.

[PhuketBloke]

9 minutes ago, 23RD said:

No I mean the couple of Million (and that's a conservative estimate) who have no right to treatment at the taxpayers expense. 

The same type of folk that refuse to stay in former Military Barracks because its not good enough for them. 

The problem is they do have the right to be treated for free according to the international laws we signed up to, but it is taking time and effort to change due to the typical socialists who are opposing getting out of such laws. 

We cannot flout laws otherwise we would all be able to flout the law and do as we please, the law has to be changed or we get to sign-off from that law. 

[23RD]

4 minutes ago, PhuketBloke said:

The problem is they do have the right to be treated for free according to the international laws we signed up to, but it is taking time and effort to change due to the typical socialists who are opposing getting out of such laws. 

We cannot flout laws otherwise we would all be able to flout the law and do as we please, the law has to be changed or we get to sign-off from that law. 

Agreed the Rwanda plan legal  objections  and High Court ruling being a classic example of the enemy within much to the disgust of the silent majority of British People. 

[PhuketBloke]

31 minutes ago, 23RD said:

Agreed the Rwanda plan legal  objections  and High Court ruling being a classic example of the enemy within much to the disgust of the silent majority of British People. 

At least Sunak is trying to change or get out of the law which states we have to take people in, and also trying the Rwanda deal, a lot of domestic opposition and so it will take time.

People say "Just kick them out", "Just say no".

We can't break international law otherwise no other country would trust us and we would never be able to make international laws, treaties, or trade agreements again. 

Yes as far as I can see people of all ethnic backgrounds want all of this nonsense stopped before we are overwhelmed. 

What gets me is when you see the socialist media going on about poor women and children but you look at the people getting off the boats, they are mostly young fit guys coming here for financial gain. 

I don't think France is a dangerous country to settle in, I thought we had to take people from countries which are a danger to them, is France dangerous?

I have many friends who came to the UK in the 1970's they worked hard and were/are an asset to the country, they were legal and got jobs straight away. 

Edited January 8 by PhuketBloke
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[23RD]

2 minutes ago, PhuketBloke said:

At least Sunak is trying to change or get out of the law which states we have to take people in, and also trying the Rwanda deal, a lot of domestic opposition and so it will take time

Agreed at least they passed the Nationality and Borders Act 2022 pity they removed Suella Braverman from post.

 

6 minutes ago, PhuketBloke said:

 

What gets me is when you see the socialist media going on about poor women and children but you look at the people getting off the boards, they are mostly young fit guys coming here for financial gain. 

I don't think France is a dangerous country to settle in, I thought we had to take people from countries which are a danger to them, is France dangerous?

Legitimate Refugees wouldn't Country shop for best welfare states they'd be glad for safety the problem with the UK is a lack of mandatory ID Cards which makes it easier for them to slip through the cracks. 

 

10 minutes ago, PhuketBloke said:

 

I have many friends who came to the UK in the 1970's they worked hard and were/are an asset to the country, they were legal and got jobs straight away. 

Legal immigration not a problem it's the illegal immigration that consumes social services and facilities. 

[PhuketBloke]

On 1/8/2024 at 5:22 PM, 23RD said:

Agreed at least they passed the Nationality and Borders Act 2022 pity they removed Suella Braverman from post.

Legitimate Refugees wouldn't Country shop for best welfare states they'd be glad for safety the problem with the UK is a lack of mandatory ID Cards which makes it easier for them to slip through the cracks. 

Legal immigration not a problem it's the illegal immigration that consumes social services and facilities. 

"..... the problem with the UK is a lack of mandatory ID Cards which makes it easier for them to slip through the cracks. "

True but liberals are opposed to that too, something to do with our freedom and rights, I would have no problem being asked for ID by the police.

I remember working in Germany, one evening we were standing outside a bar drinking beer as it was a hot day, and two cops turned up and asked two guys for their ID, they had none and they were taken away, great. 

While staying In Thailand I have to register where I am staying if I move house, report to the police online every 90 days, get an annual extension to my visa, and prove I have over 800,000 baht in my bank when applying for the visa extension.

No problem as it means we farangs are seen as no threat to the Thais as they can see we have to pay our way and are not a burden to them and their tax system. 

 

[SkipsPa]

On 11/10/2023 at 1:56 PM, cowslip said:

Brexit is the most shameful thing the UK has done in its history.

It is actually more shameful than Suez or the loss of the American colonies 

I don't think we should have joined in the first place!