News Forum - Israel’s supply cut reveals state’s cruel, dehumanising intentions towards Palestine

[Thaiger]

Israel’s decision to cut off essential supplies, including electricity, food, fuel, and water, to the Gaza Strip in Palestine, in response to recent Hamas attacks not only threatens to precipitate a humanitarian catastrophe but also exposes the state’s often overlooked perpetually cruel and dehumanising intentions. The Hamas attack was undeniably horrific, resulting in a regrettable … …

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[Pinetree]

Says who?  Please keep your uninformed  opinions to yourself , instead of badging it as 'news' . 

[23RD]

The Fascist Left and the useful idiots are already trying to spin it with they're Pro Palestinian marches from Canada to America to Europe and Australia yesterday. 

Points to note check out some of the signage on these marches  all the usual culprits. 

[Rookiescot]

It will be interesting to see how some Republicans react to this aggression from HAMAS.

They can hardly argue that giving help to Israel but not the Ukraine is a reasonable position.

I guess it all depends on how the Cult Leader wants to spin it.

[Smiler]

I saw on Australian news today that the protest against Israel and supporting the terrorists were chanting “gas the Jews” actually today is an anniversary when 800 children were gassed at Auschwitz. Something the supporters of Hamas to maybe consider. 

[23RD]

3 minutes ago, Smiler said:

I saw on Australian news today that the protest against Israel and supporting the terrorists were chanting “gas the Jews” actually today is an anniversary when 800 children were gassed at Auschwitz. Something the supporters of Hamas to maybe consider. 

Seen that one earlier Smiler Bud and they're the same useful idiots that call anyone that doesn't agree to their Marxist agenda Nazis. 

 

[Rookiescot]

10 minutes ago, 23RD said:

Seen that one earlier Smiler Bud and they're the same useful idiots that call anyone that doesn't agree to their Marxist agenda Nazis. 

Yeah because there is no history of the right wing extremists chanting "gas the jews" or giving nazi salutes.

Nope its a problem on the left wing.

Jesus H Christ at least put SOME thought into your posts. 

[23RD]

2 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Yeah because there is no history of the right wing extremists chanting "gas the jews" or giving nazi salutes.

Nope its a problem on the left wing.

Jesus H Christ at least put SOME thought into your posts. 

Put some through Into my posts ????

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I'd hammer you again on this topic but I've made a commitment to a real Gentleman of integrity that I'd lay of you if you've got a drama be a man for once in your life and take it to the PM facility if not shut your lying trap and stop trying to derail threads. 

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[ThaiFoodGuy]

The very second I saw the headline, I knew it would be another trashy opinion piece presented as journalism from our dearest Marxist, Bob Scott.

[Rookiescot]

Just now, ThaiFoodGuy said:

The very second I saw the headline, I knew it would be another trashy opinion piece presented as journalism from our dearest Marxist, Bob Scott.

If you want to know what the CCP thinks. Just ask Bob.

[Khunmark]

Well done Bob, on the money once again.

[BigHewer]

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[Vigo]

2 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Yeah because there is no history of the right wing extremists chanting "gas the jews" or giving nazi salutes.

Nope its a problem on the left wing.

Jesus H Christ at least put SOME thought into your posts. 

The difference is that in the western societies where extreme rightists agitate,  it is  a small group of people and their actions are quickly condemned. What we see with the pro terrorism  group is that they are a majority of their immigrant populations and that no one dares to hold them accountable. Their young come out to chant for war. We are treated to justifications on the basis of freedom of speech etc.  It's called a double standard. The youth who were murdered at the  dance festival were most likely supporters of peaceful relations with the Arabs. That's what they get for letting their guard down.

[Vigo]

1 hour ago, Khunmark said:

Well done Bob, on the money once again.

The Israeli position  is consistent with current non violent methods called sanctions. Why would you expect Israel to supply electricity and water when the terrorists attacked the power stations and water pumping stations and murdered the workers? Would you like to work under such circumstances? Yours is the typical European view .  

Know what, the joke is on you. All those  North Africans  landing illegally on European  shores will do the same to Europe.

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, Vigo said:

The difference is that in the western societies where extreme rightists agitate,  it is  a small group of people and their actions are quickly condemned. What we see with the pro terrorism  group is that they are a majority of their immigrant populations and that no one dares to hold them accountable. There young come out to chant for war. We are treated to justifications on the basis of freedom of speech etc.  It's called a double standard. The youth who were murdered at the  dance festival were most likely supporters of peaceful relations with the Arabs. That's what they get for letting their guard down.

Indeed it is to the wests credit that right wing groups who chant "gas the jews" are a tiny minority.

However I fear the increasing rhetoric on the right of politics where antisemitism is couched in other terms such as "Globalists". Its all "Them" and "They". Its a nod and a wink to who they really mean.

 

[EdwardV]

4 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

It will be interesting to see how some Republicans react to this aggression from HAMAS.

They can hardly argue that giving help to Israel but not the Ukraine is a reasonable position.

I guess it all depends on how the Cult Leader wants to spin it.

The Republicans are fully supporting Israel, the push back against Israel is coming from the Democratic left. I don't think the "Cult Leader" has any sway with them. 

 

[Rookiescot]

32 minutes ago, EdwardV said:

The Republicans are fully supporting Israel, the push back against Israel is coming from the Democratic left. I don't think the "Cult Leader" has any sway with them. 

But not fully supportive of the Ukraine. The Cult leader says as much every week.

I wonder why that is. Surely it is double standards to support Israel from aggression but not the Ukraine.

After that private meeting between Putin and Trump he sure did change his attitude towards RuZZia.

[Pinga]

#1 award for most idiotic post I've read this year. Hamas animals have infiltrated Israel butchering and kidnapping innocent women, children, and elderly - exposing exactly who and what they are. Hell they even killed Thais and other nationals who have nothing to do with the conflict.

I don't care if all of Gaza gets demolished - Hamas needs to go. No sovereign nation will stand by in the face of an attack on civilians in it's territory - and neither will Israel.

[EdwardV]

24 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

I wonder why that is. Surely it is double standards to support Israel from aggression but not the Ukraine.

I wouldn't know what the Cult Leader has to say, I don't listen to him.

The double standard is all around, you just have to be willing to see it. The left of the Democratic House membership has been denouncing support for Ukraine from the start of the war. The only difference is they are in the minority, so no one pays attention to them. If they regain the House next year, Ukraine support will have just as much problem with them as it does with the far-right minority of the Republicans. 

[ThaiFoodGuy]

Reports coming out today that Hamas militants have posted videos of themselves beheading Israeli babies...

Wonder what Bobby has to say about that.

[1234567]

It is unfortunate, how Thais obviously have no idea how Israel treat Palestinians.

Most of the westerners even do not know, and blindly believe the Zionist/Jewish paid mainstream media; how the "Palestininas are the terrorists, and Israelis are the victim".
It is mindboggling how GULLIBLE the people are and do not know anything; that Israel has breached more UN resolutions than the whole world combined, is keeping 2 200 000 people in Holocaust concentration camp and regularly shoots them like fish in a bowl, keep vast Apartheid system, has attacked every single neighbour of it,  keep secret nuclear arm prgogram and refuse to sign agreements; while they moan Iran for doing it (Iran has never attacked any country...), regularly shoot and burn children, etc. etc.

So it is no wonder Thais do not know these facts about the terrorist state!

[1234567]

10 hours ago, Vigo said:

The Israeli position  is consistent with current non violent methods called sanctions. Why would you expect Israel to supply electricity and water when the terrorists attacked the power stations and water pumping stations and murdered the workers? Would you like to work under such circumstances? Yours is the typical European view .  

Know what, the joke is on you. All those  North Africans  landing illegally on European  shores will do the same to Europe.

Your connection to African migration to Europe is very well in place: Israel is the beacon of all illegal immigration in modern world: Israel has expelled 6 000 000 Palestinians from their homes while anyone claiming to have 25% Jewsih blood may move in Palestine and is given free land in occupied territories; the same place those Palestinians were kicked out: If that is not the finest example of illegal immigration, then nothing is!
Israel has breached more UN resolutions than the whole rest of the world combined, Israel has breached all and every agreement made about the land division in Palestine, Israel has attacked EVERY SINGLE neigbour of it, Israel keeps 2 200 000 people in a Holocaust concentration camp called Gaza and regularly shoots and burns them like fish in a bowl, Israel keeps active Apartheid program towards Palestinians, Israel kills on daily basis Palestinians for freaking 75 years in total impunity; while USA sends 10 MILLION dollars EVERY SINGLE DAY for the last 35 years (this does not include the private organizations sending even more money to Israel, to support the Apartheid and killing), Israel keeps secret nuclear arm program and refuses to sign agreements about it; while at the same time moaning Iran of doing so; Iran has never attacked any country...

Isn't it a real "victim" your beloved Israel...?

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[1234567]

8 hours ago, Pinga said:

#1 award for most idiotic post I've read this year. Hamas animals have infiltrated Israel butchering and kidnapping innocent women, children, and elderly - exposing exactly who and what they are. Hell they even killed Thais and other nationals who have nothing to do with the conflict.

I don't care if all of Gaza gets demolished - Hamas needs to go. No sovereign nation will stand by in the face of an attack on civilians in it's territory - and neither will Israel.

Ahh, and in your opinion Israel has not killed innocent women, children, and elderly - exposing exactly who and what they are?
Are you aware that Israel kills approximately 2 000 Palestinians in a normal year; but in excess of that they regularly shoot people in Gaza, like those people were fish in a bowl: 2008, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2023...
There is no comparison of how many Palestinians are killed and maimed, towards how many Israeli occupiers are!

What do you expect the people forced in a concentration camp do? What did Jews in Wasaw Ghetto do in 1943; were they terrorists when they attacked the occupier?

[Khunmark]

15 hours ago, Vigo said:

The Israeli position  is consistent with current non violent methods called sanctions. Why would you expect Israel to supply electricity and water when the terrorists attacked the power stations and water pumping stations and murdered the workers? Would you like to work under such circumstances? Yours is the typical European view .  

Know what, the joke is on you. All those  North Africans  landing illegally on European  shores will do the same to Europe.

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/HRBodies/HRC/RegularSessions/Session40/Documents/A_HRC_40_74_CRP2.pdf
Try again. The single biggest threat to peace and stability in the Middle East is Bibi. His tenure in office has been characterised by intimidation and brutality. It’s instructive that some of the great Jewish scholars disagree with you. You may want to listen to thoughts of the likes Naom Chomsky on the matter.

The intellectual lazy will always side against the ethnic ‘other’. The voices that warrant an ear are those that are critical of their own. And there are (thankfully) many Jewish organisations who readily accept the appalling actions conducted by the Israeli military against the Palestinians. That, not is to say that Hamas are guilt free, but to suggest that the atrocities have been committed by one side only is a gross misrepresentation of fact.

 

I don’t know what it is about this forum, where the debate gets reduced down to black and white, good and evil contingent upon race. Most people choose stability over ideology but sadly it’s the will of zealots  which triumphs. So therefore the argument should be framed as zealots versus the masses, rather than Arab versus Jew.

[Vigo]

5 hours ago, 1234567 said:

Your connection to African migration to Europe is very well in place: Israel is the beacon of all illegal immigration in modern world: Israel has expelled 6 000 000 Palestinians from their homes while anyone claiming to have 25% Jewsih blood may move in Palestine and is given free land in occupied territories; the same place those Palestinians were kicked out: If that is not the finest example of illegal immigration, then nothing is!
Israel has breached more UN resolutions than the whole rest of the world combined, Israel has breached all and every agreement made about the land division in Palestine, Israel has attacked EVERY SINGLE neigbour of it, Israel keeps 2 200 000 people in a Holocaust concentration camp called Gaza and regularly shoots and burns them like fish in a bowl, Israel keeps active Apartheid program towards Palestinians, Israel kills on daily basis Palestinians for freaking 75 years in total impunity; while USA sends 10 MILLION dollars EVERY SINGLE DAY for the last 35 years (this does not include the private organizations sending even more money to Israel, to support the Apartheid and killing), Israel keeps secret nuclear arm program and refuses to sign agreements about it; while at the same time moaning Iran of doing so; Iran has never attacked any country...

Isn't it a real "victim" your beloved Israel...?

You have posted statements that are factually incorrect in every way.   In respect to the claims you make,

1. Expulsion of "Palestinians" or the myth of the Nakba. The primary cause of the departure of  arabs was WAR. War declared by the Arabs themselves. In 1948, did the Arab nations not declare war on israel and say they would  wipe it off the map? In 1967, did not the massed  military  of the pan Arab attack force not promise to drive the jews into the sea? Did the Arab leadership not tell the Arabs in  Israel to leave so that they would not be  harmed as the Arab armies purged Israel of its Jews?  You bet there were innocent Arab victims. That's the side effect of war.  What is your position on the  almost same number of jewish people who were  expelled from Arab countries  land who had all their assets seized? Are you denying those expulsions. Yes, the Israelis took advantage of the upheaval. That is what happens in wars where the larger nations seek to wipe out the small nation. We saw this on a larger scale in the partition of India and Pakistan, and we saw this in the  partition of Ethiopia and Eritrea, and again with South Sudan and Sudan, and we see it ongoing in the country now called Yemen.

2. All these  UN Resolutions you reference. Please be more specific. The Arab dominated  general assembly has a history of passing discriminatory motions. One  of the best was sponsored by Iran condemning Israeli human rights right after Iran strung up 2  boys in from a crane in a public square  for alleged  homosexuality. Israel does not have the death penalty and doesn't persecute teenage boys for alleged consensual acts.

3. You reference  Gaza as a concentration camp. You obviously have no idea of what a concentration camp is. The citizens until the recent war  had ready access to Egypt. Was the border not open with Egypt? There was no restriction on the trade of food, medicines and most personal use items. The loals were allowed to enter Israel for work and for medical care if needed.It seems that the   restrictions were not particularly difficult to circumvent as Hamas imported thousands of missiles, rockets and  artillery pieces. It was able to fully arm multiple death squads and to build a sophisticated  underground system of reinforced concrete tunnels and bunkers. 

4. You reference US military aid to Israel. In 2021 the following summary was published, please advise if this is True or false;

- From 2014-2020, U.N. agencies spent nearly US $4.5 billion in Gaza, including $600 million in 2020 alone.  UNRWA, which also provides funding and staffing for schools, health services and food aid.

- Egypt sponsored almost US$500 million in economic developtment and projects for the period of 2021 forward.

— Qatar has provided in excess of US$1.3 billion in cash aid to Gaza since 2012 for construction, health services and agriculture. 

— The Palestinian Authority filed statements that it  paid US$1.7 billion to Gaza government workers  

- The EU provides a US $80 million stand alone aid budget to Gaza that

- The USA  gave almost US$100 million in aid to Gaza (and  PLA projects  in West Bank)

— The U.S. has spent at least $5.5 million in Gaza this year on cash assistance and health care, in addition to contributing $90 million to UNRWA operations in Gaza and the occupied West Bank.

Based upon historical evidence, inmates of concentration camps starved to death. How then is it possible that Gaza has one of the highest rates of obesity in the region?  42.0% of adult females, and 29.5% of adult males are considered obese. Why is diabetes, an affliction of financially well off societies so prevalent? 1 in 5  Gaza adults has Type II diabetes. meanwhile in  war afflicted Africa, diabetes is a rarity.

It is nice that you showed up to spew your lies and hate. Know what,  hew haters like you have been around for centuries. You may have come close to wiping them out, but good triumphs over evil as time passes. It is why the Kurds survived the persecution of people like you, and why the minority Christians of the middle east have managed to  survive for so many centuries.  Your  philosophy  is what justified ISIS turning Yzidi boys and girls as sex slaves,  and it failed. The struggle Israel faces is now one which  the free world must understand is also about its survival as the unhinged nutters seek to impose their caliphate upon the enlightened world.