News Forum - Singapore sees first Covid vaccine death

[Thaiger]

The Ministry of Health (MOH) in Singapore has announced the death of a 28-year-old Bangladeshi man, likely related to a Covid-19 vaccine. He died away 21 days after receiving the Moderna/Spikevax COVID-19 vaccine. The State Coroner has confirmed that the cause of death was myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle. The MOH has also …

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[Grumpish]

One death out of 17 million doses - but will get jumped on by the idiot anti-vaxxers as proof of how dangerous the vaccines are. 

[Condo]

So died from a cure that far worse than the disease.......  (cough cough)

[Soidog]

1 hour ago, Condo said:

So died from a cure that far worse than the disease.......  (cough cough)

Cure? What cure are you referring to? 

[robytoby]

Vaccins like every medication have side-effects     to get a vaccination against really dangerous infections is helpful....to get vaccinated for a simple flu is stupid and has been promoted only for moneymaking

[robytoby]

And the fact is that people who are thinking and asking questions are quickly called "idiot anti-vaxxers" But thats good...it is the best proove that people like Grumfish are simply angry when they believed on that campagne, as it where seen and prepared in 2005 and later

[Grumpish]

55 minutes ago, robytoby said:

Vaccins like every medication have side-effects     to get a vaccination against really dangerous infections is helpful....to get vaccinated for a simple flu is stupid and has been promoted only for moneymaking

"simple flu" - the mortality rate is four times that of flu and it has a much higher rate of long term moderate to severe complications. Flu vaccines have also saved many many thousands of lives,  especially in the over-65's.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu

[Augratin]

Even if a tiny fraction of people get trapped in their vehicles by their seat belts and ultimately perish, we are still far safer wearing them than not.  Hard to believe this even needs to be said.

[Donald]

On 2/18/2023 at 6:20 PM, Grumpish said:

One death out of 17 million doses - but will get jumped on by the idiot anti-vaxxers as proof of how dangerous the vaccines are. 

First of all, I object to you classifying anti vaxxers as idiots. Vaccination has proven to be useful in the past in saving lives and you will find few people denying this. When refusing or doubting the efficiency of the mRNA vaccine however, we are dealing with an entirely new medical product that has not gone through the same rigorous testing as previous ones. This whole pro and contra has become more of  religious war then a sensible discussion where different view points are represented and respected. You will find that also a lot of doctors have been critical of this technology and where silenced. Why should that be the case ? Are we not entitled to receive all the available information before we can make an informed decision. Anyway like I said there has been no reasonable discussion allowed and we can safely assume that many people have had adverse reactions to the vaccination that have not been recognized as such.

[Rookiescot]

13 minutes ago, Donald said:

When refusing or doubting the efficiency of the mRNA vaccine however, we are dealing with an entirely new medical product that has not gone through the same rigorous testing as previous ones.

Simply untrue.

13 minutes ago, Donald said:

This whole pro and contra has become more of  religious war then a sensible discussion where different view points are represented and respected.

It certainly has been that for the anti vaxxers.

14 minutes ago, Donald said:

You will find that also a lot of doctors have been critical of this technology and where silenced.

No they were dismissed for presenting pseudo-science and conspiracy theories. A lot of them were also gaining financially by pushing their own remedies like ivermectin which has been proven numerous times to be absolutely ineffective against covid.

17 minutes ago, Donald said:

Why should that be the case ?

Because they were wrong. Most of them were not even medical doctors.

18 minutes ago, Donald said:

Are we not entitled to receive all the available information before we can make an informed decision.

If you dont want vaccinated then don't get one. Simple really.

19 minutes ago, Donald said:

Anyway like I said there has been no reasonable discussion allowed and we can safely assume that many people have had adverse reactions to the vaccination that have not been recognized as such.

A bold assumption there. Simply assuming someone got up one morning with a zit on their nose two weeks after being vaccinated does not show anything at all.

[Donald]

Why, oh why do I even bother to make a sensible balanced comment ? the mRNA treatment has not been subjected to the same rigorous testing as other vaccines. It was fast tracked eliminating many of the test stages . That is not a secret.

There is no money in Ivermectin. It is cheap to produce, and been on the market for ages. So if somebody recommended it, it certainly was not for financial gain.

And besides the ordinary doctors that where critical we also have some serious heavyweights like fe Robert Malone who was involved in the development of mRNA technology and highly critical of it's use. Or maybe Michael Yeadon who was the vice president of Pfizer and chief of research for over 20 years who warns about mRNA technology.

And as far as your comment goes, if I don't want to be vaccinated, then don't. Well ask the Canadian truckers about that. And don't start on the protect others business. By now the most outspoken defender of the Covid 19 vaccine will have to admit that the shot doesn't prevent you of becoming infectious for others, or even prevent you from catching the disease. Not even from getting seriously sick with the virus.

Anyway I will not entertain this thread any longer. Let others decide for themselves which version they think is more plausible and logical.

[Soidog]

14 minutes ago, Donald said:

the mRNA treatment has not been subjected to the same rigorous testing as other vaccines

I’m sure you can find as many websites stating what you say, as I can find refuting what you say. Why do you think these mRNA vaccines have not be tested with the same rigour? What is the basis of this claim?  Please don’t tell me it’s the time to develop them. There is a very clear, logical and obvious reasons why many Covid vaccines came to market much quicker than other vaccines. 

[KaptainRob]

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