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[butterfly]

maybe Putin is just waiting for NATO to join the fight, so he can send a few nukes to the US and be done with it

it's unlikely the US would have time to retort, so win-win for the world 

[Rookiescot]

26 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

I don't know Putin's goals. But this is definitely not the maximum murder of Ukrainian children. You always claim to know. Tell us.

Really? Using thermobaric weapons in built up areas full of civilians? Using cluster bombs in built up areas full of civilians. Targeting hospitals and maternity units full of civilians? Shelling so called "safe corridors" full of civilians?

Looks to me he is going for maximum civilian casualties. Next it will be chemical weapons. He has used them before. Or maybe even tactical nukes.

Putin will happily see millions die just to save his own skin from his stupid decision to invade the Ukraine.

[Rookiescot]

13 minutes ago, butterfly said:

maybe Putin is just waiting for NATO to join the fight, so he can send a few nukes to the US and be done with it

it's unlikely the US would have time to retort, so win-win for the world 

And the nukes in submarines? Or on aircraft carriers? Even if by some miracle he was able to destroy the US there are also a lot of nukes in other NATO nations.

[butterfly]

5 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

And the nukes in submarines? Or on aircraft carriers? Even if by some miracle he was able to destroy the US there are also a lot of nukes in other NATO nations.

NATO allies will just rollover and sleep, as usual 

[Alavan]

1 hour ago, butterfly said:

maybe Putin is just waiting for NATO to join the fight, so he can send a few nukes to the US and be done with it

it's unlikely the US would have time to retort, so win-win for the world 

There are US, UK, French, Russian, Chinese, Indian nuclear subs with misiles. 
so please explain no time to retort and win-win.

You must have some inside info that we, stupid as we are, don’t know of

[Rookiescot]

44 minutes ago, butterfly said:

NATO allies will just rollover and sleep, as usual 

And be the next ones on Czar Putins list?

No chance.

[Stardust]

2 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

I am not a fan of personalities, history is not written by them.

Putin can be blamed for many things, but he never made rash decisions. all his actions so far have been calculated and led to the desired result for him.

you mean the result that Sweden and Finland apply now at the Nato all the European armues top up? The huge amounts of bigger budgets ( germany a extra of 100 billion euro for this year and 2% of the gdp) . More Troops and equipment at european borders, bankrupt Russia ( rated as junk and like Angola etc) and pariah state? Yes a full success

This shows the intelligence level of Putin and his followers, same like their Army and generals. 8 of them he kicked out and default equipments because of corruption

[Stardust]

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

And the nukes in submarines? Or on aircraft carriers? Even if by some miracle he was able to destroy the US there are also a lot of nukes in other NATO nations.

Exactly Germany by the USA for example and all aircrafts, submarines etc must be able for nuclear weapons and it us by contract. Germany was already with nukes in the cold war time and as other nato members in Europe need the capability by the nato contract. 

[vlad]

Alavan most on here are just out for fun or cause trouble the thread will soon be locked due to them as usual. This is my last post on this thread because of the jokers. So on the Nuke issue do they not realise we have systems to moniter any nuclear missile sites that are known, the spy's in the sky will give ample warning. We have the capability to counter strike Putin has a big stick but we have a baseball bat that hits harder. On Fighter jets if we finally deploy them I say we as i assume American and Nato forces will have more planes then Russia they would be defeated in days there Air aircraft would be destoyed. Once air superority is established all heavy Russian armour will be destroyed on the ground along with missile sites Apache gunships and A10 tank busters will take them out. This would be over in a week. Putins troops are mostly now conscips due to there losses. So what does he do ? Threatens to use Bio Chem weapons. Unlike Syria this time we wont sit back.All he can do is do what he is doing now thats his MO. Ukraine has withstood what Russia has delivered to them and are beating them back. Once the up to date modern Anti aircrat the west has given Ukranian forces are able to use them they will start hitting them hard and the conscipts won't have the stomach for a fight and will Desert.

[Fester]

2 hours ago, butterfly said:

maybe Putin is just waiting for NATO to join the fight, so he can send a few nukes to the US and be done with it

it's unlikely the US would have time to retort, so win-win for the world 

Stated with complete ignorance as ever.

ALL US and NATO forces have been on high alert and readiness for weeks and they  are ready to react.

 

[KRLMRX]

1 hour ago, Stardust said:

you mean the result that Sweden and Finland apply now at the Nato all the European armues top up? The huge amounts of bigger budgets ( germany a extra of 100 billion euro for this year and 2% of the gdp) . More Troops and equipment at european borders, bankrupt Russia ( rated as junk and like Angola etc) and pariah state? Yes a full success

This shows the intelligence level of Putin and his followers, same like their Army and generals. 8 of them he kicked out and default equipments because of corruption

it remains to wait for all this in reality, and not in your fantasies.

But even if this is the case, how do you know that Putin did not plan it?

Why do you think he cares that someone in the Atlantic area considers him an outcast?

Edited March 12, 2022 by KRLMRX

[KRLMRX]

3 minutes ago, Transam said:

Putin planned to upset all his rich chums, don't think so...................................

Putin's rich pals are now getting twice as many dollars and four times as many rubles for their goods compared to pre-crisis times.

[Fester]

4 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

Putin's rich pals are now getting twice as many dollars and four times as many rubles for their goods compared to pre-crisis times.

Need more room under the bed then. Maybe a wheelbarrow garage?

[Rookiescot]

I will just leave this here as an example of how duplicitous some Putin apologists are.

 

 

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, Transam said:

Their yachts are scurrying away to safe haven ports, with AIS systems switched off, their private jets impounded, can't touch money, yep, they're a really happy bunch... 

Its a shame their houses in London, Monaco and elsewhere don't float or fly isn't it. 

[WilliamG]

On 3/7/2022 at 10:42 AM, Thaiger said:

A senior US defense official says Russia has not amassed 95% of its combat power in Ukraine,

This does not tally with the headline.

[Convert54]

14 hours ago, oldschooler said:

Iraq was a murderous genocidal tyranny which invaded Iran & Kuwait and gassed its Kurd civilians which was invaded for good reason by Democracies.  Ukraine a peaceful Democracy invaded by Tyrant whom” felt” threatened.

Trust the blindingly obvious “‘difference” is made clear now.

Iraq assisted against Iran  by the US in provision of money, weapons , intelligence. Which can only infer the US shared in the tyrannical murderous genocide of that convenient theatre !? That  in later  years they  hunted  down  as the  mad  dog of their own creation  was something else. Useful tactic. Used on  BinLiner  man too.

The majority of the world population that has any knowledge and/or comprehension of Putin's unnecessary invasion of the Ukraine is opposed to it. There are likely to be many of them in Syria, Yemen, Palestine , Myanmar, probably  half of the central South Americas, etc where day by day people die in cumulative  numbers that make the Ukraine situation look  like  just a minor  bus crash and so they can have empathy at best in their own survival battles!

And while they might be aware do you think they have any respect for the UN or the US or Russia ?

Media platforms are rife in comment but if there  were to be an honest  assessment of which side  people take it is not anywhere  near in favor of that some might assume they should.

There are many scholarly articles being generated and presented with greater insightful assessments of both the entirety of the global conflicts and individual ones of  which the crisis situation in the Ukraine presents with.

It is noticeable that some non Westrn media are now stepping back in the rhetoric used in presenting facts( as best  known) from their initial all out compliant stance as the "posturing" is confirmed while people die.

FEA is the  closest acronym I know of to describe it all.

 

 

 

 

Edited March 12, 2022 by Convert54

[KRLMRX]

1 hour ago, Transam said:

Their yachts are scurrying away to safe haven ports, with AIS systems switched off, their private jets impounded, can't touch money, yep, they're a really happy bunch... 

yes, everyone knows that rich people keep their wealth exclusively in the Banks of Europe and the USA and never in offshore and shell companies

[Cabra]

4 hours ago, butterfly said:

maybe Putin is just waiting for NATO to join the fight, so he can send a few nukes to the US and be done with it

it's unlikely the US would have time to retort, so win-win for the world 

Global geothermal nuclear war is a win-win hopefully the balance of the human race disagrees

[Convert54]

9 minutes ago, Cabra said:

Global geothermal nuclear war is a win-win hopefully the balance of the human race disagrees

Understood as  intended!

[Stardust]

2 hours ago, Convert54 said:

Iraq assisted against Iran  by the US in provision of money, weapons , intelligence. Which can only infer the US shared in the tyrannical murderous genocide of that convenient theatre !? That  in later  years they  hunted  down  as the  mad  dog of their own creation  was something else. Useful tactic. Used on  BinLiner  man too.

The majority of the world population that has any knowledge and/or comprehension of Putin's unnecessary invasion of the Ukraine is opposed to it. There are likely to be many of them in Syria, Yemen, Palestine , Myanmar, probably  half of the central South Americas, etc where day by day people die in cumulative  numbers that make the Ukraine situation look  like  just a minor  bus crash and so they can have empathy at best in their own survival battles!

And while they might be aware do you think they have any respect for the UN or the US or Russia ?

Media platforms are rife in comment but if there  were to be an honest  assessment of which side  people take it is not anywhere  near in favor of that some might assume they should.

There are many scholarly articles being generated and presented with greater insightful assessments of both the entirety of the global conflicts and individual ones of  which the crisis situation in the Ukraine presents with.

It is noticeable that some non Westrn media are now stepping back in the rhetoric used in presenting facts( as best  known) from their initial all out compliant stance as the "posturing" is confirmed while people die.

FEA is the  closest acronym I know of to describe it all.

What a kind of rubbish and while hour by hour the children and mothers are arriving in Europe the population doesn't need any press etc to understand whats going . 2,5 millions already you are for sure absolute brainwashed to think whole Europe not understands whats going on and who is responsible. Go to europe and see by yourself what you are writing is just pure rubbish and in your fantasy or told by your Qanon source like this rubbish Russia brought in the UN and no evidence just the rubbish Qanon spreading in the net. To think the whole world is same sick and believing this rubbish from Qanon what you here all the time wants to sell as a reliable source ist the same nonsense what the world could experienced with Russias fake news and without any substance.

[Rookiescot]

1 hour ago, KRLMRX said:

yes, everyone knows that rich people keep their wealth exclusively in the Banks of Europe and the USA and never in offshore and shell companies

All of which are currently being sanctioned. Even Switzerland, a more neutral country you could not find, is seizing the assets of Czar Putin and his corrupt chums.

The west has previous experience with this. They will find the hidden loot and take it.

[Convert54]

2 minutes ago, Stardust said:

What a kind of rubbish and while hour by hour the children and mothers are arriving in Europe the population doesn't need any press etc to understand whats going . 2,5 millions already you are for sure absolute brainwashed to think whole Europe not understands whats going on and who is responsible. Go to europe and see by yourself what you are writing is just pure rubbish and in your fantasy or told by your Qanon source like this rubbish Russia brought in the UN and no evidence just the rubbish Qanon spreading in the net. To think the whole world is same sick and believing this rubbish from Qanon what you here all the time wants to sell as a reliable source ist the same nonsense what the world could experienced with Russias fake news and without any substance.

Breathe  out and pop your  bubble !

[Rookiescot]

3 minutes ago, Stardust said:

What a kind of rubbish and while hour by hour the children and mothers are arriving in Europe the population doesn't need any press etc to understand whats going . 2,5 millions already you are for sure absolute brainwashed to think whole Europe not understands whats going on and who is responsible. Go to europe and see by yourself what you are writing is just pure rubbish and in your fantasy or told by your Qanon source like this rubbish Russia brought in the UN and no evidence just the rubbish Qanon spreading in the net. To think the whole world is same sick and believing this rubbish from Qanon what you here all the time wants to sell as a reliable source ist the same nonsense what the world could experienced with Russias fake news and without any substance.

Its just more deflection by the Putin bots. They know how this works. Keep deflecting the thread and arguing about ANYTHING other than what shows Russia and Czar Putin in a bad light.

Eventually the mods get sick of trying to keep the thread in order and close it.

Dont get sidetracked by this nonsense. The thread is about Czar Putins invasion of the Ukraine.

Lets stay on topic.

[Stardust]

3 minutes ago, Convert54 said:

Breathe  out and pop your  bubble !

You exactly writing these theories from this sick psychopaths from Qanon. Yes we could all read this rubbish and there are studies  already out in europe about their mental health status.