News Forum - Thailand’s Move Forward Party faces possible dissolution

[Thaiger]

The Move Forward Party (MFP), one of Thailand’s major opposition parties, is currently battling a case against its dissolution in court. The case was triggered by the Election Commission’s (EC) proposal, based on Section 92 of the Political Parties Act, after the MFP was found to be advocating for amendments to Section 112 of the … …

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[Fanta]

Tough to believe Pita won the election and now the party is in court fighting against extinction by lawfare. TiT

[SnapDragon]

They are as good as history.

But they will come again. Future Forward! Move Forward! What about Center 

Forward next time?

[Khunmark]

17 minutes ago, SnapDragon said:

They are as good as history.

But they will come again. Future Forward! Move Forward! What about Center 

Forward next time?

As you say, they will morph into a new iteration sans Pita and the 40+ members looking at a life ban from politics. None of this makes a scrap of difference for the prospects of meaningful change, whilst the army looms large in the background as the real centre of power. The US will head down the same path if Trump gains office again. He’ll have no compunction about co-opting military to advance his own political ends.

[cowslip]

way to easy to disolve a party in Thailand - a major constitutional flaw.

[ChrisS]

Sadly the only way to get any real level of democracy in Thailand is to get the army out of politics. They will not go willingly as they have come to expect the power so sadly as I see it a civil uprising is the only long term solution. 

[Khunmark]

12 hours ago, ChrisS said:

Sadly the only way to get any real level of democracy in Thailand is to get the army out of politics. They will not go willingly as they have come to expect the power so sadly as I see it a civil uprising is the only long term solution. 

Civil uprisings have been tried and failed. Furthermore, there seems to be less of an appetite for civil uprising now than any point in recent history. Dissension in the ranks is the only real prospect for reform. The ones with the guns need to be neutralised. There is no coup if the troops won’t leave the barracks.

[Ramanathan.P]

19 hours ago, SnapDragon said:

They are as good as history.

But they will come again. Future Forward! Move Forward! What about Center 

Forward next time?

Next would be Fast Forward....

[cowslip]

5 hours ago, Khunmark said:

Civil uprisings have been tried and failed. Furthermore, there seems to be less of an appetite for civil uprising now than any point in recent history. Dissension in the ranks is the only real prospect for reform. The ones with the guns need to be neutralised. There is no coup if the troops won’t leave the barracks.

When has there ever been a civil uprising inThailand ... at least since WW2?

[ChrisS]

7 hours ago, Khunmark said:

Civil uprisings have been tried and failed

Yes I saw the 'civil uprisings' of the past, poorly organised, poorly equipped and largely restricted to small areas of Bangkok, that is not an uprising that is merely a large demonstration. An uprising would have to involve confronting the army and for rank and file soldiers to defect to defect from the army and stand against their senior officers.

[cowslip]

5 minutes ago, ChrisS said:

Yes I saw the 'civil uprisings' of the past, poorly organised, poorly equipped and largely restricted to small areas of Bangkok, that is not an uprising that is merely a large demonstration. An uprising would have to involve confronting the army and for rank and file soldiers to defect to defect from the army and stand against their senior officers.

What "civil uprisings" - you'd need to be over 90 years old to have witnessed them.

[Khunmark]

I’m hoping this Cambridge definition brings clarity to the term.

[cowslip]

5 minutes ago, Khunmark said:

I’m hoping this Cambridge definition brings clarity to the term.

A one wquote wonder.

1- you need to know how to use a dictionary

2 - you need to relate it to an example.

[butterfly]

well at least the populace will see first hand how the system is working against them,

and they have no friends up there,

this is a dangerous road,

and will only end in one way,

[Khunmark]

14 minutes ago, cowslip said:

A one wquote wonder.

1- you need to know how to use a dictionary

2 - you need to relate it to an example.

You need to stop carrying on like a dickhead- although sadly there is little hope of that. The example is in the definition dumb arse. 

[cowslip]

19 minutes ago, Khunmark said:

You need to stop carrying on like a dickhead- although sadly there is little hope of that. The example is in the definition dumb arse. 

QED - "one quote wonder"!

how does that relate to anything in Thailand "dumb-arse"?

 

BTW - if you read the posts before you'll see it is "civil uprising" we talking about. What a D.A!

[MrStretch]

On 5/3/2024 at 12:15 PM, Fanta said:

Tough to believe Pita won the election and now the party is in court fighting against extinction by lawfare. TiT

It's incredibly disappointing but it's not tough to believe.  The powers that be, wearing their yellow shirts, their military uniforms and their large bank accounts don't want reform. 

They did their best to kill the Red Shirt movement, which threatened them before, and before the current incarnation of that particular Red Shirt group decided to turn their backs on what they initially proclaimed in order to gain power.

That now puts those previous Red Shirts as part of the latest incarnation of the power elite establishment and they, too, are more than happy to see Pita and his  party eliminated to keep the rivers of money flowing into the "correct" pockets.

The election showed us two things; one, that the Thai electorate wants reform and two, they are still a long way from having a proper voice in their own country.

[Khunmark]

3 hours ago, cowslip said:

QED - "one quote wonder"!

how does that relate to anything in Thailand "dumb-arse"?

BTW - if you read the posts before you'll see it is "civil uprising" we talking about. What a D.A!

Your ‘you’d have to be over 90 to remember the last uprising’, ranks up there with your other bout of stupidity, ‘there are no general practice doctor’s clinics in Thailand’. Remember that embarrassing gem? You doubled down on that bizarre assertion too. Give yourself a punch in face and the delete your account. Your offerings are a net deficit to the threads you inhabit.

[TedG]

8 hours ago, cowslip said:

When has there ever been a civil uprising inThailand ... at least since WW2?

14 October 1973 

[TedG]

6 hours ago, Khunmark said:

You need to stop carrying on like a dickhead- although sadly there is little hope of that. The example is in the definition dumb arse. 

He can't help himself. 

[cowslip]

4 minutes ago, TedG said:

He can't help himself. 

You just dint know what you are talking about.

Why comment if you know nothing about Thai history.

[TedG]

1 hour ago, cowslip said:

You just dint know what you are talking about.

Why comment if you know nothing about Thai history.

Shut up.   There was an uprising in 1973 you dumb idiot. 

[cowslip]

30 minutes ago, TedG said:

Shut up.   There was an uprising in 1973 you dumb idiot. 

Yes you are right 50 years ago not 80 as i had suggested...however we know that is not what was being talked about.

...I bet you had to Google that.

[butterfly]

1930s uprising?

or the 2010 one, let's not forget

[Fanta]

Black May doesn’t count?