News Forum - Thailand backs ‘One China’ policy amid US Taiwan PR disaster

[Tim_Melb]

17 hours ago, NorskTiger said:

Quite a vitrolic load from your side, isn't it?

   Does Thailand and USA have a "forward positioning" agreemnt or not`? Whether it is "old" or not, so what? An agreement exists and it is a part of the US foreign basing policy and planning. 

    However, it is likely there will be an intent from the side of Thailand to cancel these agreement as time goes by and USA keeps withing away their influence in Asia, no doubt. Thailand is likely to wanteliminating all these provisions the more the monarchy is being challenged by "color revolution" attempts. I feel sorry for these students who are being used as proxy pawns by the West, I really do. 

On contrary the Thai military and government are waking up to the the Chinese lies and sales pitch. They have learnt the lessons taught by China's inability or unwillingness to deliver on their promises in both military supply contracts and trade agreements. This is made clear by their unwillingness to proceed with the Belt and Road infrastructure projects like the high speed rail link through Thailand to Malaysia and the militaries renewed courting of the United States to supply new aircraft and other assets for the military. It is much more likely that Thailand will return to policies of closer relations with the US and Australia than continuing to court China. Especially since the Chinese Communist Party seems to be hell bent on maintaining the zero covid policy to save face. As this effectively means the tourism from China has come to an end for the foreseeable future. 

[oldschooler]

On 8/8/2022 at 6:31 AM, NorskTiger said:

    China is not the CCP. China is an old entity that goes thousands of years back in time. Whether or not the CCP is "heinous" or have not "forgiven" Taiwan is irrelevant. Taiwan is set to be returing to CHina and fully integrating just like HK has recently done. It is a great pipe dream of the West to believe this can be stopped. 

It has been and will be stopped.

Democratic Taiwan People clearly don’t want CCP Tyranny. That is the sole consideration under Democracy. The wishes of the generationally settled people. Only tyrants ignore that and instead cite geography and history as overriding democracy and proper law.

[oldschooler]

On 8/8/2022 at 6:29 AM, NorskTiger said:

US PRETENDS TO is exactly the point. 

      When Princess Pelosi is sent there by the DS and MIC to prech about "democracy" it is like spitting in the eye of that policy. 

     China does not have the liberal democracy model and it is unlikely they will in future as well, unless the CIA and usual suspects should succeed in a large covert  and "spontaneous" color revolution. I think nobody thinks that is any more likely to happen in China than Russia. 

CCP China has NO Democracy Model.

CCP China “ demonizes” itself by its aggressive belligerent rhetoric and silly threatening military “exercises.” 

CCP dominates China and survives only because Capitalism allowed. A complete contradiction of supposed CCP values. CCP well aware Communism and Socialism don’t work.

CCP based on Terror, Oppression, Intolerance, Violence, Power. Clearly Evil.

CCP will fall internally from Chinese People activity, either Economically or Politically, certainly when CCP inevitable Taiwan Invasion Attempt Fails…

[NorskTiger]

   Of course China does not have "democracy". That is not their system of rule. Like som many nations in the world, of which so many are given silent blessings of the Western "liberal order" to carry on as long as they stay on the right side. The other paradox may be how a very "religious" people (Thailand and Busshism) so easily coexist well with a "constitional atheist" state like China. However, the latter must clearly be attributed to the tolerant philosophy of the Thai and the pragmatic and deep Confucian roots (still existing) in China. I find both of these things very fascinating to note.  At the same time, clearly the nihilist capitalism of the West appeals not to neither for a range of other reasons. 

   I believe it is very wishful thinking to envision Thailand strengthening their bonds with USA over China. If you are in BKK itself, you can only note of strongly interlocked the higher Thai strata now is with businesses, relationships and family ties from China. 

    Of course the ties with USA exists and remain stronger than with many other nations, but at the same time. the weariness over what many Thai people of influence see as US foreign meddling into their domestic affairs have "helped" drive them closer with China. Now, one may see it as the ultimate irony that a monarchy is forging good bonds with a Communist system, unless we take into consideration the above. 

   Tourism from China to Thailand is increasing and I think it is a question of time before they have the largest share. However, it goes the other way as well. The amazingly high level of food production in Thailand has given the country a far higher importance to China than one would otherwise think. 

      Thailand will not cut ties with USA nor, forge an umbillical bond with China because neither are beneficial to any of the three nations. However, what is likely to happen more is an increased participation in the concept of "Asian century" as long as we still see fading powrs of the West clinging to vestiges of colonial decor, if not directly, then definitely in projected attitudes towards both the Thai and CHinese people.

     Last time I came to BKK, I shared seat on plane with a Singapore gorgeous woman who was an engineering fellow at an electricity project in Kuala Lumpur. She was ethnic Chinese, but had lived in USA, UK and Bangkok. Obviously spoke fluent English with the usual enthusiasm and focus of the Asian tiger woman and made it very clear that she was "very happy in BKK and SIngapore", but "ultimately probably would end up in China".  Her attiude to China and the Taiwan issue was that there as no way China would do any warring over the reintegration of something that would happen even if Xi tomorrow proclaimed he would never want a reunification. The economic, geostrategic and political environment would carry Taiwain accross the finish line without need to do anything, a sentiment I totally agree with.  

      

[MikeTexas]

5555 The Thaiger is the literary equivalent of The Weekly World News or the Enquirer.  I think the reporters that can't get on with the Bangkok Post or can't get their own blog up and running end up here for a trial run.