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16 minutes ago, Thaidup said:

Why are people so unkind?

Who will be kind when a thug like putin making a invasion and war, bombing civilians, children and woman?

You would be kind they kill your family?

Rape yor wife and kill your kids?

It is about this Russian thugs and Putin!

21 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

Putin also said that he recognizes the independence of the DPR and LPR and begins to help them in their struggle with Ukraine. that's exactly what I was talking about

So if Biden decides to recognize the independence of a couple of Russian regions that would be OK yeah?

On 3/24/2022 at 9:35 PM, EdwardV said:

Who said it was about China? The western media ... lets digress for a minute. Some use the term "western media" as a pejorative term. As if all western media can't be trusted. What is the alternative, Russian media? Talk about untrustworthy. We can debate which is more trustworthy (you would lose hands down), but there is no other resource when there is a need to provide back up to a claimed fact. Back to the rebuttal ... the western media you are dismissing didn't create the document, they just reprinted it. The documentation originated with the World Heath Organization. CNN just reprinted it. The WHO is hardly western media and could easily be considered an impartial third party (so says the Chinese). Now do you see the Chinese tie in?

you wrote it.

You can thank the Chinese for providing proof.

these are not Chinese Chinese? then what kind of Chinese are we talking about?

I'm talking about the top Western media that you see on TV and the Internet. And they have the same position on all foreign policy issues. Just like the top Russian near-state media. Of course, there are media in the West with an alternative position to the mainstream, but they are very small and invisible. And in Russia, too, there are such media. Like thise:

https://meduza.io/.

I did not find any mention of this maternity hospital on the WHO website. But even if it is there, I doubt that the WHO has reliable sources of information on the spot about who exactly shot.

On 3/24/2022 at 11:46 PM, vlad said:

Did you not see the pregnant woman being carried out on a stretcher from the bombed maternity hospital KRLMRX, or was that an Actress, or did you not see it? yes or no will do. She died a few days later and her unborn child from shrapnel wounds or will you say it's fake.

of course I saw it.  after all, this is the only pregnant "victim of a missile attack" on the maternity hospital, which was shown by all the "independent media".  

Doesn't it bother you that during an explosion in a building of three floors, in which all the windows flew out from the explosion, they show you one victim without signs of shrapnel wounds?  

if all the windows in a building fly out during an explosion, you have no chance of being left without fragments all over your body, especially on your face and hands, since they are less protected.

where are the rest of the victims?  

where do you get the information about her death?  

if there really were women in this maternity hospital, we would see hundreds of photos and videos with tens and hundreds of injured and dead.

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6 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

So if Biden decides to recognize the independence of a couple of Russian regions that would be OK yeah?

if before that, for 8 years, the inhabitants of these regions fought with the Russian army, demanded that English be returned as the state language, as it was before, and Russia did not comply with the agreement signed by it and approved by the UN to resolve the conflict, then yes, that would be normal .

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3 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

NATO engineered their (Kosovo's) fake independence with spies, agitators and saboteurs to "encourage" this process along with the small minority of separatist ethnic Albanians living there. they are Yugoslav Land. As is (was) Bosnia-Herzegovina. Now NATO has death squads that kill hundreds of less loyal "separatists" .. and blame Serbia for their deaths! Hitlerism is alive.

That is, you believe that Putin planned to invade Ukraine and did not even suspect that there would be sanctions for this? Do you think that Putin is a brainless idiot? underestimating the enemy is fraught with defeat.

Yeah, you’ve done this weird “ reverse echo” /  “parrot ” stuff before….not a good look really is it ? 😆😂

Yugoslavia a doomed one -man Tito tyranny creation.😠

NATO doesn’t have death squads. that’s a feature of tyrannies.😡

NATO engineered Fascist Serbia’s Surrender. Kosovo formed Itself.

NATO snatched Genocidal Russian Supported Serbian Leaders & Delivered Them to Justice. 😉

Putin knew there would be Sanctions.

But went ahead anyway 🤣🤣🤣!

But didn’t know that his incompetent army is reduced by 40,000 casualties after one month & so much equipment lost.😆 or maybe he didn’t care …

Proven Hitlerism Alive ….in Russia.😡

Surely its Putin who “ underestimated the enemy”.🤣

Who is Putin going to defeat ? some brave unarmed Russian Protesters? 😆

Or Himself 😀😆🤣!!!

13 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

of course I saw it.  after all, this is the only pregnant "victim of a missile attack" on the maternity hospital, which was shown by all the "independent media".  

Doesn't it bother you that during an explosion in a building of three floors, in which all the windows flew out from the explosion, they show you one victim without signs of shrapnel wounds?  

if all the windows in a building fly out during an explosion, you have no chance of being left without fragments all over your body, especially on your face and hands, since they are less protected.

where are the rest of the victims?  

where do you get the information about her death?  

if there really were women in this maternity hospital, we would see hundreds of photos and videos with tens and hundreds of injured and dead.

Saw the 9 year old Ukraine girl with her arm, and Sister, lost to sick Russian infantry fire as they fled Russian shelling. Ukraine Army did that did they ? 

On 3/24/2022 at 9:31 PM, KRLMRX said:

Putin also said that he recognizes the independence of the DPR and LPR and begins to help them in their struggle with Ukraine. that's exactly what I was talking about

Nobody Cares what “Putin Says” , ONLY what Putin Does ! !  😉😌 Firm Rule with All Tyrants ( since 1939 anyway). 

 

14 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

Yeah, you’ve done this weird “ reverse echo” /  “parrot ” stuff before….not a good look really is it ? 😆😂

you do it regularly.  almost every post of yours is a set of templates, slogans and a set of sounds from a broken record. looks disgusting, my free and independent friend.

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14 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

Saw the 9 year old Ukraine girl with her arm, and Sister, lost to sick Russian infantry fire as they fled Russian shelling. Ukraine Army did that did they ? 

you haven't seen her.  

you saw a certain photo and text written by an unknown person with thoughts of a certain direction.  don't be fooled.  

And if this girl really suffered, why can't you assume that this happened through the fault of the Ukrainian army?  even the holy free democratic independent US Army makes mistakes and kills wedding processions.  Do you think the Ukrainian army is more professional?

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Just now, KRLMRX said:

you do it regularly.  almost every post of yours is a set of templates, slogans and a set of sounds from a broken record. looks disgusting, my free and independent friend.

You Lie. Prove It. False Priests of Dogma are always exposed…..

You’ve Taken several Strong Beatings from me recently, can’t handle it and finally lost all reason.

You have only an empty joyless philosophy, no match for Free Open Factual Reason.  
 

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19 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

you haven't seen her.  

you saw a certain photo and text written by an unknown person with thoughts of a certain direction.  don't be fooled.  

And if this girl really suffered, why can't you assume that this happened through the fault of the Ukrainian army?  even the holy free democratic independent US Army makes mistakes and kills wedding processions.  Do you think the Ukrainian army is more professional?

Such Denials remind me of Holocaust Deniers & UN “Human Rights” Council Lies (exposed by UN Watch). Ukrainian Troops shooting young girls mistaking them for enemy ? Sickening Now. 

2 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

these are not Chinese Chinese? then what kind of Chinese are we talking about?

China runs (behind the scene of course as is the Chinese way) the World Health Organization. Hence why I'm thanking them for providing the proof Russia is committing war crimes. 

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Depressing thread. The military invasion of the Ukraine is indefensible. Nor is the general artillery and missile barrage on Ukraine's cities and infrastructure acceptable, even in war. I am no fan of the Ukraine and even have sympathy for Russia presence in Crimea and in some of the occupied regions of Ukraine, but that cannot justify the military invasion and its accompanying crimes against humanity. The Russians are doing what they did in Syria. No western nation in the past 50+ years has done what the Russians have done in the Ukraine and the continued attempts to excuse the Russians barbarism is a pathetic attempt to justify ethnic cleansing.  The Serbs (backed by Russia) engaged in similar tactics in Bosnia and it took a  UN backed NATO intervention to liberate the concentration camps and to stop the systemic rape of both women and adolescent boys.

On 3/19/2022 at 4:24 AM, KRLMRX said:

because civilians die in every war.

If you want to say that Putin deliberately kills as many civilians as possible, then this, fortunately, is not the case, otherwise we would see millions of victims in a country of 35 million, but this is not the case.

Yes, civilians die in wars. However, until Russia started targeting schools, refugee convoys, hospitals and shelters, the civilian casualty  count was relatively low.  We have seen the Russians intentionally drive tanks over civilians and we have seen them  shoot elderly people who couldn't flee fast enough.

On 3/19/2022 at 4:34 AM, Thaidup said:

Peace talks seem to be getting closer,

https://www.freepressjournal.in/world/russia-ukraine-war-vladimir-putin-accuses-ukraine-of-stalling-peace-talks-says-moscow-ready-for-solution

Im starting to think this is turning into a major proxy war, another one, again.

How can there be constructive peace talks when the Russian position  has been that the Ukraine must surrender and cede its territory? The Ukrainian people do not wish to surrender, nor do they wish to give up their country to Russia. 

On 3/19/2022 at 5:29 PM, 23RD said:

OMG this topics meant to be about Ukraine updates ! !!!

And it moved to Karl Marx a scumbag .

Let's get back on topic to Ukraine its gone on for 3 weeks now and It's going to drive my eleckie bill up next month.

So let's get Hunter Biden (another scumbag) on Air Force One to Moscow to broker a peace deal with with his mates in Moscow and put end to  this incursion. 

Hunter can broker a deal (for a small fee).

He needs his wages from the Oligarchs and he needs to flogg a few more off his BLOW paintings to them.

And this time of year we Expats need cheap aircon.

Get a grip. Hunter Biden has nothing to do with this. If you are so fixed on a conspiracy, concern your self with the conduct of SCOTUS judge Clarence Thomas and his Trump supporting wife.

On 3/23/2022 at 1:16 AM, KRLMRX said:

it would be funny if not for the millions of civilians killed in Korea, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq and so on ...

Again. this has nothing to do with those past conflicts. Using the past to excuse the present  isn't appropriate.  If all those past events were wrongful acts as you suggest, then shouldn't your savior, your land of perfection offers us something  better, and not a repeat of its Syrian genocide?

 

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5 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

if before that, for 8 years, the inhabitants of these regions fought with the Russian army, demanded that English be returned as the state language, as it was before, and Russia did not comply with the agreement signed by it and approved by the UN to resolve the conflict, then yes, that would be normal .

OK then. Vladivostok needs to be returned to the Chinese immediately. 

2 hours ago, Vigo said:

Get a grip. Hunter Biden has nothing to do with this. If you are so fixed on a conspiracy, concern your self with the conduct of SCOTUS judge Clarence Thomas and his Trump supporting wife.

No my left wing friend he's got everything to do with it if it wasn't for his corruption and his compromised status of him and his big man daddy we wouldn't be be talking about this Ukrainian incursion.

As for Justice Thomas the guys currently in Hospital so has a little bit of respect my little Soy friend. 

4 hours ago, 23RD said:

No my left wing friend he's got everything to do with it if it wasn't for his corruption and his compromised status of him and his big man daddy we wouldn't be be talking about this Ukrainian incursion.

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Exactly what emperical info do you have linking Biden family to Russian decision to invade Ukraine?

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3 minutes ago, PBS said:

Exactly what emperical info do you have linking Biden family to Russian decision to invade Ukraine?

Try reading this week's NYT .

I must admit it took me back when such a left wing rag verified The Biden Family connection (and payment from Russia & Russian Oligarchs).

 

5 hours ago, 23RD said:

No my left wing friend he's got everything to do with it if it wasn't for his corruption and his compromised status of him and his big man daddy we wouldn't be be talking about this Ukrainian incursion.

As for Justice Thomas the guys currently in Hospital so has a little bit of respect my little Soy friend. 

I am not your friend, nor "left wing".  The Russian attacks on Ukraine have nothing to do with Hunter Biden. Clarence Thomas is not in a hospital. He  went into hiding, once the scandal of his wife became known.  I note that you throw out tired hackneyed insults when you are unable to offer a rational point. And again, I am not your friend as I would not have anything in common interest with someone  who carries on as if he had actual active military service in a conflict zone. 

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12 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

of course I saw it.  after all, this is the only pregnant "victim of a missile attack" on the maternity hospital, which was shown by all the "independent media".  

Doesn't it bother you that during an explosion in a building of three floors, in which all the windows flew out from the explosion, they show you one victim without signs of shrapnel wounds?  

if all the windows in a building fly out during an explosion, you have no chance of being left without fragments all over your body, especially on your face and hands, since they are less protected.

where are the rest of the victims?  

where do you get the information about her death?  

if there really were women in this maternity hospital, we would see hundreds of photos and videos with tens and hundreds of injured and dead.

The attack was documented by accredited  journalists from AP. Patients had been sheltering in the basement. The detonation was in the front of the building, away from a majority of the patients and  staff. There were approx. 17 injured people, several of whom were shown in real time by the AP report.  The woman  who died had a crushed pelvis and her hip and been practically ripped from her body.This was a catastrophic injury. She was transferred to another hospital for an emergency C section, but she died as it was confirmed that the baby had been killed due to the traumatic physical injuries she sustained.  The death occurred in real time and is documented.

If you wish to watch part of the report;  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-NC-QOhhv4

 

 

You have no credibility when you try to dismiss this type of war crime. You are as bad as the last invaders of the region when they claimed there was no local genocide or mass deportation to concentration camps. It would be  rather sad if you really believed in what you write. 

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