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[Thaidup]

Here is a little reminder of what the allied forces did to a civilian population during the war on the nartsies.

It is not pretty, and my opinion is that a repeat of this type of devastation and loss of life should be avoided by peace talks, not posturing. I just feel that the bolstering of Ukraine with free weapons is only going to prolong and increase the death of innocent civilians.

https://www.gettyimages.com/photos/dresden-bombing

 

[EdwardV]

4 minutes ago, Thaidup said:

Here is a little reminder of what the allied forces did to a civilian population during the war on the nartsies.

It is not pretty, and my opinion is that a repeat of this type of devastation and loss of life should be avoided by peace talks, not posturing. I just feel that the bolstering of Ukraine with free weapons is only going to prolong and increase the death of innocent civilians.

The point was since WWII

Putin isn't really negotiating, it's all just show. You know, exactly what he did leading up to invading. 

How about instead of expecting a country to not want to defend itself, you don't attack it instead. That seems like a surefire way to cut down on the loss of life and devastation.   

[EdwardV]

5 minutes ago, Thaidup said:

Maybe it's about time we as humans stop fighting each other.

I agree and think you should talk to Putin right away. 

[Stardust]

6 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

The USSR was at war with the Western-backed Mujahideens.  After himself, he left a secular state, with schools, hospitals, built factories.

https://www.rferl.org/a/What_The_Soviets_Got_Right_In_Afghanistan/1958521.html

Remind me what Afghanistan looks like after many years of NATO invasion?  

What kind of fake information like everything you bring , like your fake links about Marx. Is there anything what is not fake news or information. I not find one time anything with a reliable source or what was not fake information.

https://www.dw.com/en/syrian-archive-finds-overwhelming-russian-atrocities-in-aleppo/a-38169808

But documenting in Ukraine is much more better because more filmed material. Get you all war criminal thugs.

 

[Stardust]

4 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

The fake about the "Mariupol maternity hospital" has been alive for a week now, and I and the whole world are waiting for at least one photo with victims from this maternity hospital. I hope CNN can handle this. BBC, for example, could not.

Do you care how children are killed? I don't. Are children killed by napalm or by the partial destruction of a city less valuable to you?

Don't add hypocrisy to this world, it's already crowded.

You for sure not go anymore out of Russia or any airport. Anybody who is involved directly in the misinformations campaigns from Putin and listed can be denied entry without even to inform them. The warcrimes are documented and are analyzed on a daily basis. Den Hague will get them sooner or later including Putin.

[Stardust]

11 hours ago, Shark said:

Because otherwise what exactly? You can't deport me. You have zero powers over me.
Again Putin's act is and will remain unjustified to me. NATO's pussy shit behavior which provoked this is even more bad in my opinion and especially since afterwards one "Wokey" (check the Urban Dictionary) can now say ZOMG Russians are bad. They are just as bad as Americans (which I know you are) and yes I do compare this with Afghanistan and Iraq as neither of those where for the greater good and left in a worse state then found which will most likely happen with Ukraine too and there the numbers of refugees are no where in the millions compared to what's happening with Ukraine and the woman in Afghanistan thank you for your service in 2022.

The school building allegedly bombed there have been stat images of it being empty for days before and suddenly a big 'film crew' is there. Anyways choose your own poison but don't suggest me todo anything then to live my life the way I want.

Actors will be analyzed and identified and listed. They can be denied entry any time at the Airports. It is war time and therefore they also activating their cyber defense and regulations

https://www.dw.com/en/eu-proposes-measures-to-punish-russias-information-war/a-61050956

 

 

[Bluesofa]

It appears to be a little too cold for comfort for some Russian soldiers right now, with some of them getting frostbite:
https://news.yahoo.com/russian-troops-getting-frostbite-ukraine-165914265.html

 

There must be some sort of irony there, as when the Nazis were invading Russia in WW2, it was Stalin who made a reference the cold winter, and two generals they had: "General January and General February."

(I see it was apparently Tzar Nicholas I who originally said it)

 

[KRLMRX]

8 hours ago, EdwardV said:

Well I guess that's an answer, not to my question but it's still an answer. Honestly there is no discussion if you choose to ignore reality. That damn CNN made up the entire thing, all 43 hospitals. Oh wait, it was actually the WHO, CNN just verified it. I guess you can't even trust Chinese run international organizations anymore. 

both sides use civilian infrastructure as cover. I have already suggested here a way out - to go out to all the military in an open field and find out their attitude. they didn't listen. strange.

[KRLMRX]

5 hours ago, Stardust said:

What kind of fake information like everything you bring , like your fake links about Marx. Is there anything what is not fake news or information. I not find one time anything with a reliable source or what was not fake information.

https://www.dw.com/en/syrian-archive-finds-overwhelming-russian-atrocities-in-aleppo/a-38169808

But documenting in Ukraine is much more better because more filmed material. Get you all war criminal thugs.

I gave you a link to Radio Free Europe. Even this, one of the most anti-Soviet organizations, is forced to recognize the success of the USSR in the progress of Afghanistan on the path to civilized development.

For you, reliable information is only that which coincides with your vision of the world? Then I agree, I will misinform you.

[Marble-eye]

3 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

both sides use civilian infrastructure as cover. I have already suggested here a way out - to go out to all the military in an open field and find out their attitude. they didn't listen. strange.

both sides use civilian infrastructure as cover.

Would it be fair to say that the Ukrainians shouldn't have to be using any infrastructure as cover because the Russians shouldn't be there in the first place. Are you struggling Karl with this concept, it is not that difficult you know.

[KRLMRX]

5 hours ago, Stardust said:

You for sure not go anymore out of Russia or any airport. Anybody who is involved directly in the misinformations campaigns from Putin and listed can be denied entry without even to inform them. The warcrimes are documented and are analyzed on a daily basis. Den Hague will get them sooner or later including Putin.

I agree not to go anywhere for the rest of my life in exchange for the lives of women and children in maternity hospitals in Ukraine

[KRLMRX]

14 minutes ago, Marble-eye said:

both sides use civilian infrastructure as cover.

Would it be fair to say that the Ukrainians shouldn't have to be using any infrastructure as cover because the Russians shouldn't be there in the first place. Are you struggling Karl with this concept, it is not that difficult you know.

the fighting is already underway. it was about the fact that only Russia destroys, but it is not.

Events in the real world (including this war) do not just happen out of nowhere. There are always causes and consequences.

[Marble-eye]

5 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

the fighting is already underway. it was about the fact that only Russia destroys, but it is not.

Events in the real world (including this war) do not just happen out of nowhere. There are always causes and consequences.

We all know the "fighting is already underway" but that still does not negate the blame from Russia. If Russia was not there in the first place none of this would be happening. Ukraine would not be destroying anything if Putins army hadn't invaded their country in the first place, they want to live in peace, you cannot keep trying to spin it any other way.

[Stardust]

9 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

yes, I know he said it was just emotions.

Did he say how many doctors managed to carry out his order?  

Do you see the bewilderment on the face of the hosts from his words?  

Did the TV channel or its owner, Mr. Akhmetov, apologize?

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-honors-ukrainian-holocaust-survivor-killed-by-russian-shelling/a-61210926

 

And

https://www.dw.com/en/eu-proposes-measures-to-punish-russias-information-war/a-61050956

Not have to say a lot anymore

[oldschooler]

11 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

there is such a thing as "atmosphere in society", which leads to certain consequences.

the world is ruled by contradictions, not patterns and slogans about "free democracies". If you don't believe me, ask old Hegel.

Clear Massive Difference between Free Democracies and Unfree Tyrannies like your enslaved Russia. Your daft “ smoke & mirrors” equivalence case is clearly nonsense. 

[oldschooler]

11 hours ago, Thaidup said:

Democracy at work in Ukraine?, Wow, if I was Zelensky I would ban all my opposition by declaring them has having links to Russia, he should really milk this one.

Zelensky announces ban on 11 Ukrainian political parties with ties to Russia

https://www.axios.com/ukraine-ban-political-parties-russian-ties-af264ecd-9ad4-4e98-9f87-76f32300fd5f.html

Ukraine is wholly corrupt (like Russia) & deeply divided / flawed as a democratic nation but “ sufficiently “ free & democratic to qualify for western support excluding joining NATO / EU and NATO “ boots on ground”.

[Stardust]

2 hours ago, Marble-eye said:

We all know the "fighting is already underway" but that still does not negate the blame from Russia. If Russia was not there in the first place none of this would be happening. Ukraine would not be destroying anything if Putins army hadn't invaded their country in the first place, they want to live in peace, you cannot keep trying to spin it any other way.

Exactly

 

[Stardust]

10 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

the fighting is already underway. it was about the fact that only Russia destroys, but it is not.

Events in the real world (including this war) do not just happen out of nowhere. There are always causes and consequences.

Yes to start a war in europe is not a good idea

They had no fear of russian tanks in the time of the revolutions in eastern europe and east germany. It is quite a illusion they would have any fear of Russian army nowaday. 

Now they will get resitance from every corner in europe and is absurd they will have any fear in europe. This will make it the biggest hell Russia ever experienced. To invade Europe is the stupiest idea and will bring down Russia forever. Any action from Russia will push more resistance power and resistance from everybody from 3 til 90 years old. Did you guys forgot what it means wars in europe?! And that any threat will make european to arm up more and ready for any fight. Forgot the saying in europe

"You took the sword and you will die by the sword"

I guess you guys opened the box of the pandora and will be hunted for that and in every corner resistance

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[AlexPTY]

5 hours ago, oldschooler said:

Ukraine is wholly corrupt (like Russia) & deeply divided / flawed as a democratic nation but “ sufficiently

what country isn't? Burkina Faso?

[oldschooler]

9 minutes ago, AlexPTY said:

what country isn't? Burkina Faso?

Poor Question indeed. Certainly no advanced developed country is “ wholly corrupt”. Meaning entire system of govt, politics, institutions, laws, commerce. Russia& China for example, certainly & clearly are. 

[KRLMRX]

8 hours ago, Marble-eye said:

We all know the "fighting is already underway" but that still does not negate the blame from Russia. If Russia was not there in the first place none of this would be happening. Ukraine would not be destroying anything if Putins army hadn't invaded their country in the first place, they want to live in peace, you cannot keep trying to spin it any other way.

if Ukraine did not destroy the Donbass for 8 years and fulfilled the Minsk agreements it signed, Russia would not have invaded.

Causes and consequences.

[Marble-eye]

Just now, KRLMRX said:

if Ukraine did not destroy the Donbass for 8 years and fulfilled the Minsk agreements it signed, Russia would not have invaded.

Causes and consequences.

If my father had breasts he'd have been my mother. 

This as nothing to do with anything but Putins megalomaniac ego and his desire to invade sovereign nations and he doesn't care how many people dies in the process. But hey Karl being Putins greatest apologist you must be so proud of the loss of life your leader is achieving including young still wet behind the conscripts of your own country.

You will never convince anyone on here about his murderous actions, what a great man you have chosen to defend, you must be so proud!

 

[AlexPTY]

Since I don't remember, war lost its meaning. My Italian granddad fought for Soviets during WWII. There were no refugees... Everyone fought nazis. Imagine, Germans bomb London and all population escape to Mongolia. You fight for your land or surrender. Now you just flee and every social media will cry their eyes out creating a sensation. Time to respect sovereignty and let people solve their own problems. Without hypocritical influence... 

 

OH, beer time 

[Stardust]

16 minutes ago, AlexPTY said:

Since I don't remember, war lost its meaning. My Italian granddad fought for Soviets during WWII. There were no refugees... Everyone fought nazis. Imagine, Germans bomb London and all population escape to Mongolia. You fight for your land or surrender. Now you just flee and every social media will cry their eyes out creating a sensation. Time to respect sovereignty and let people solve their own problems. Without hypocritical influence... 

OH, beer time 

Soviets? In Italy? What kind of nonsense is that?! There was a Italian resistance but never ever a soviet one! Palare Italiano? I guess not. Avanti popollo doesn't mean soviets and never did! No Russian soviet resistance ever was in Italy!

[KRLMRX]

8 hours ago, oldschooler said:

Clear Massive Difference between Free Democracies and Unfree Tyrannies like your enslaved Russia. Your daft “ smoke & mirrors” equivalence case is clearly nonsense. 

for this you need 300 years to carry slaves to unfree tyrannies.