News Forum - Russia enters war games with Belarus as NATO nations rush to avoid war in Ukraine, Europe

[dj230]

what role does Thailand play in this if Russia, Ukraine goes to war? I am guessing little to none other than the inflation that comes 

[Soidog]

2 hours ago, Poolie said:

Xi hasn't left China for 2 years. How has he been aggressive? Try and use you're own ideas instead of quoting any western media this time. 

What has leaving China got to do with the level of aggression shown by Xi? Maybe you should try using your own ideas rather than the CCP

[oldschooler]

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

You still did not address the point I made. You go on about weak left governments but what is the strong right wing government in the UK doing?

Seriously? Silly question not worth answering in detail. UK doing plenty ; find out …….or stay purposely ignorant.

[23RD]

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

You still did not address the point I made. You go on about weak left governments but what is the strong right wing government in the UK doing?

The Centre Right UK Government is doing as much as anyone else at the moment. Remember as much as I  sympathise with Ukraine they are not a NATO member.

This situation is similar to when Obama was President and Putin annexed Crimea human nature Bud strong Leaders will take advantage of weak one's even more in this situation as for many years Pro Russian Ukrainians have filtered so much money in back handers to The Biden Crime Clan.

One thing is for certain the transcripts of the recent phone call between Biden & Putin won't get declassified I wonder why????

[oldschooler]

1 hour ago, dj230 said:

what role does Thailand play in this if Russia, Ukraine goes to war? I am guessing little to none other than the inflation that comes 

Nothing. Thailand about as significant as Iceland or Portugal on the international stage; invisible !

[oldschooler]

5 hours ago, 1l1 said:

What country? Ukraine? Democracy?! It's only slogan. Putin's and Lukashenko's government pretends to be democratic also. Neither Russia nor Ukraine nor Belarus have basis for this. Moreover, russians, ukranians and belarus are the same people so they have politics, corruption and social problems of the same kind. 

I wonder if Birmingham differs from London or Chiang Mai differs from Chiang Rai more than Ukraine differs from Russia.

Ukraine accepted by West as (flawed) democracy with properly elected govt. Good enough for me at least. Russia & Belarus are obvious Dictatorships. Yes , All are Russians and non- NATO so west will not defend them Militarily. 

[oldschooler]

9 hours ago, 23RD said:

The common pattern everytime the WEAK Democrat Administration is in power Putin makes an incursion into Ukraine .

Every worse this time as Germany has an equally inept Left Wing Government recently installed. 

We'll wait and see what concessions Putin gets. 

Have you noticed how The Biden Administration in hyper-inflating the situation to detract from their own disastrous policies.

can we look away from Biden and towards sole aggressor Putin then focus on the geo- political & military realities on the ground ….

[oldschooler]

3 hours ago, Freeduhdumb said:

Hey... is Biden's son, the gas and oil expert, still on the board of that Ukrainian oil and gas company making $50,000 per month to attend meetings? Whose invading Ukraine again?

Raise New Topic or visit the Farang Pub forum.Serious Topic here is Russia positioning for impending War in Ukraine. No Joking Matter.

[23RD]

19 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

can we look away from Biden and towards sole aggressor Putin then focus on the geo- political & military realities on the ground ….

I do see your point oldschooler Bud Putin is the aggressor however Biden is inbetween a rock and a hard place if he attempts to stand up to Putin all Vladimir will do is release all the shadey dealings between Russia,Pro Russian Ukrainians and The Biden Family which is not a conspiracy theory the financial evidence has been in the Public domain for some time now and even Biden himself is on tape bragging about a Quid Pro Quo he offered The Ukrainian Government to stop investigating Hunter Biden.

What I can see happening is a last minute mass of concessions by The Biden Administration and The EU to pacify Putin.

Edited February 12, 2022 by 23RD

[Freeduhdumb]

6 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

Raise New Topic or visit the Farang Pub forum.Serious Topic here is Russia positioning for impending War in Ukraine. No Joking Matter.

Nothing in my two questions are a joke. They were meant to illicit some levity regarding a very important aspect of the entire discussion. Let me suggest that you get up to speed on the totality of the subject before further commenting. 

[oldschooler]

30 minutes ago, Freeduhdumb said:

Nothing in my two questions are a joke. They were meant to illicit some levity regarding a very important aspect of the entire discussion. Let me suggest that you get up to speed on the totality of the subject before further commenting. 

Hunter bleedin’ Biden has clearly got nothing to do with the subject. which has zero scope for “ levity”

[oldschooler]

36 minutes ago, 23RD said:

I do see your point oldschooler Bud Putin is the aggressor however Biden is inbetween a rock and a hard place if he attempts to stand up to Putin all Vladimir will do is release all the shadey dealings between Russia,Pro Russian Ukrainians and The Biden Family which is not a conspiracy theory the financial evidence has been in the Public domain for some time now and even Biden himself is on tape bragging about a Quid Pro Quo he offered The Ukrainian Government to stop investigating Hunter Biden.

What I can see happening is a last minute mass of concessions by The Biden Administration and The EU to pacify Putin.

All that has been discussed to death in public with no action taken. Just not a factor here. Bidens & Clintons should have been jailed years ago for clear crimes but they are obviously bullet proof under the old “insufficient evidence to prosecute” establishment trick. 

Western Intelligence no doubt have plenty of dirt on Putins 200 billion fortune and no doubt murderous KGB career that will never be made public. 

[23RD]

6 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

All that has been discussed to death in public with no action taken. Just not a factor here. Bidens & Clintons should have been jailed years ago for clear crimes but they are obviously bullet proof under the old “insufficient evidence to prosecute” establishment trick. 

Western Intelligence no doubt have plenty of dirt on Putins 200 billion fortune and no doubt murderous KGB career that will never be made public. 

Yes oldschooler Bud totally agree with your post however it has a lot to do with the current situation in The Ukraine as were in a Midterm election cycle and The Leader of The Free World is paralyzed to act in fear of even more scandals than he's previously had over the last 12 months due to illitic and illegal dealings within the Ukraine of himself and his Family.

[astro]

11 hours ago, 23RD said:

 

Every worse this time as Germany has an equally inept Left Wing Government recently installed. 

 

Actually, it hasn't been "installed", but elected and it isn't weak. They don't want war, just as anybody with their head screwed on.

 

What exactly do you believe Merkel would do differently?

[oldschooler]

16 minutes ago, 23RD said:

Yes oldschooler Bud totally agree with your post however it has a lot to do with the current situation in The Ukraine as were in a Midterm election cycle and The Leader of The Free World is paralyzed to act in fear of even more scandals than he's previously had over the last 12 months due to illitic and illegal dealings within the Ukraine of himself and his Family.

Nobody is “ paralyzed” on key issues by this election cycle stuff though. No POTUS can avoid implementing  pre - determined sanctions if Russia  crosses that border or stop NATO response if NATO borders crossed. Removal as unfit for office would swiftly occur otherwise., By your logic there would never be a “good” time for any POTUS to do anything ! 

 

[oldschooler]

4 minutes ago, astro said:

Actually, it hasn't been "installed", but elected and it isn't weak. They don't want war, just as anybody with their head screwed on.

What exactly do you believe Merkel would do differently?

It’s clearly incredibly weak so untrustworthy  …..desperate to avoid ANYTHING that might “offend” Russia, who could shut down German Industry in one month by turning off the Gas Taps.

How else do you explain DENYING the UK,a NATO ALLY, access to German Airspace, to fly Defensive Weapons to Ukraine whilst Refusing Same Action ! Cowardly treacherous act.Instead giving Ukraine near useless Helmets ! 

[23RD]

13 minutes ago, astro said:

What exactly do you believe Merkel would do differently?

Don't get me wrong Bud she was a disaster from 2015 onwards. 

[Norton]

This has nothing to do with protecting the good people of Ukraine.  This is all about removing Putin from Russia and allowing western companies to get their hands on Russia's natural resources.  These western corporations get western politicians to do their bidding and by doing so, the western corps make sure the western politicians stay in power.  

Now Putin?  He is no saint protecting his country from the "armies of the west".
He's just trying to keep his resources to make moneys for himself and those factions that back him.  
Besides, he knows that once he's out of office he probably won't be long for this world.  

Right now in this world (Actually, always has been) , everything is about controlling the natural resources of whoever has the land that holds them.  

Don't ever belive that it is about preserving anyones "freedom".  

[23RD]

15 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

By your logic there would never be a “good” time for any POTUS to do anything ! 

Yes Bud but not every POTUS has been as compromised as Joe especially In the Countries where this is playing out.

Edited February 12, 2022 by 23RD

[oldschooler]

7 minutes ago, 23RD said:

Yes Bud but not every POTUS has been as compromised as Joe especially In the Countries where this is playing out.

But he’s not really compromised because whatever the old retard does he’s obviously bullet proof …. and eighty million voted for HIM ! Beyond Belief …….

And the VP who would replace him is , incredibly & unbelievably, far worse and wayyyyy more dangerous to the world

[js89]

10 hours ago, 1l1 said:

What country? Ukraine? Democracy?! It's only slogan. Putin's and Lukashenko's government pretends to be democratic also. Neither Russia nor Ukraine nor Belarus have basis for this. Moreover, russians, ukranians and belarus are the same people so they have politics, corruption and social problems of the same kind. 

I wonder if Birmingham differs from London or Chiang Mai differs from Chiang Rai more than Ukraine differs from Russia.

London and Birmingham are part of the same, sovereign nation. Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai are part of the same sovereign nation.

Ukraine, Russia and Belarus are independent sovereign nations. You can't compare London and Birmingham to Kiev and Moscow!!

Using your logic, it would be ok for the UK to invade Australia and New Zealand on the pretext that they are the "same people". Engage your brain and stop watching Russian state TV propaganda. 

Edited February 12, 2022 by js89

[palooka]

8 hours ago, 1l1 said:

Why would NATO even bother fighting for Taiwan?

The western forces are not just NATO, or should we forget, Japan, Sth Korea, Australia, NZ and a few others.

US has already committed to defend Taiwan, so not so shabby.

[Metoo]

Just another reason why Dictators should never be allowed into positions of power on our planet....ever....period.

They are the root cause of wars and conflict, and should be erased from humanity for trying to inflict their megalomaniac evil. 

There needs to be a world organization to ensure these dictators are removed (along with their flawed DNA) at the earliest possible juncture.

We are too soft on these evil people.

[Stardust]

7 hours ago, oldschooler said:

All that has been discussed to death in public with no action taken. Just not a factor here. Bidens & Clintons should have been jailed years ago for clear crimes but they are obviously bullet proof under the old “insufficient evidence to prosecute” establishment trick. 

Western Intelligence no doubt have plenty of dirt on Putins 200 billion fortune and no doubt murderous KGB career that will never be made public. 

The KGB career of Putin was public in Europe, his career started as KGB chief in former east Germany and then til to the top. In Germany and continental Europe it went public and is known.

[Rookiescot]

9 hours ago, oldschooler said:

Seriously? Silly question not worth answering in detail. UK doing plenty ; find out …….or stay purposely ignorant.

Johnson threw another party did he?