News Forum - Thailand records December rush of tourists, but Omicron clouds brewing

[Thaiger]

A few days in December as travellers keep rolling into Thailand. On the day before Christmas, 11,533 passengers arrived in Thailand, the highest daily number since the borders were opened for fully vaccinated tourists, with only one night of quarantine, on November 1. 7,454 of those passengers arrived at Bangkok’s Suvarnabhumi Airport. Up to December 24, 217,101 travellers have arrived in Thailand. Some of them will be tourists heading to the country’s hot spots for a Thai Christmas, re-uniting with friends and family, or just enjoying a tropical holiday (unless they’re heading north at this time of the year). If […]

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[remo940]

If this happens, if that happens we’ll get 280,000 blah blah blah . What’s the difference? The party is over !

[Poolie]

With respect, it sounds as if it's just starting.

[AlexPTY]

sooner people understand, that this virus going nowhere is better. life goes on and i read few articles about Omicron causing a herd immunity is some places without really killing anyone. don't want to be an optimist here, but really, what else we can do? prepare, protect and use common sense.

sounds like a Xmas resolution, i will take it

[Jason]

I'm not going to be a doomsdayer. Yes Omicron spreads faster, as I've seen in my own country. But at this stage, no one has become seriously ill or died from Omicron. If this trend continues, it will overtake Delta and become endemic (in the U.K. It already has). Give it a few more weeks and people see it's not deadly or serious and things will change. The Thai Government has reacted in the same way other countries have...cautiously. We live in interesting times....

[ThaiPhilExpat]

Seen the lack of face mask used in soi buakhao treetown, among newly arrived tourist. Next months numbers of infections will skyrocket. Many people don't want to protect others or themselves, the outcome is given.

Same as last songkran, people have fun now, and in 1-2 months time we all pay the price with lockdown and curfew, again. 

Thai language news talks about more restrictions to come.

[Stonker]

10 minutes ago, ThaiPhilExpat said:

Seen the lack of face mask used in soi buakhao treetown, among newly arrived tourist. Next months numbers of infections will skyrocket. Many people don't want to protect others or themselves, the outcome is given.

Same as last songkran, people have fun now, and in 1-2 months time we all pay the price with lockdown and curfew, again. 

Thai language news talks about more restrictions to come.

Spot on.

Unfortunately reality isn't something those celebrating the return of tourism here are known for, and while the "newly arrived tourists" may be well protected the majority of people here aren't and the consequences will become clear but it'll be too late.

[DiJoDavO]

The doctor who discovered Omicron said it's a very weak virus. Like a weakened version of Covid which just causes a very very very mild flu. 

You can keep scaring people on this forum, and saying everyone is incorrect, but you would look ridiculous if you look back at your posts after the whole situation ends. 

Tell me, how is it possible that the UK which is 76% fully vaccinated suffers so badly from Omicron, compared to South Africa (where they discovered it) with a 26%(!!!!) vaccination rate? 

Is it maybe because they are, well... just lying maybe? It's funny but actually sad how many people just easily believe what the tv says. 

Like all viruses end, it'll spread faster, but less deadly. So at this point we are finally about to get rid of it.

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[Col]

Yes correct , over here in the UK it’s seen no more than a mild flu or a cold and having known many many people ,inc direct whole families member  people here with it . But people are please to have it better than the delta , Stop panicking  Mr Mannering and scaremongering people. 
yes spreads faster but symptoms are like a cold 
 

[Jason]

I don't see a rise in deaths.... 

[satpete]

do you really believe in offical dates from Thailand  ?

less testing  > less deaths

[Somchai]

2x more people died in road accidents in  Thailand since the outbreak of this epidemic, than due to covid.

I dont understand why they dont ban cars and motorbikes  first, and only after start thinking about any kind of covid restriction.

 

 

[satpete]

there is no real data in the world about death by Covid-19 only,

always died with Covid-19 as one reason

[astro]

11 minutes ago, Somchai said:

I dont understand why they dont ban cars and motorbikes  first, and only after start thinking about any kind of covid restriction.

Isn't that obvious?

People need cars and motorbikes to move around. Nobody needs or wants a potentially deadly virus.

[Alavan]

1 hour ago, Faz said:

They may have died from diabetes, heart failure, sepsis, or any other medical condition, but were infected with 'Omicron', but that was not the cause of death.

They may have died from one of those diseases which lower their resistance, but covid can be the final drop that leads to their death. Without covid they could have lasted longer.

[CharlesW]

If someone is seriously ill already or very old how can the cause of death be attributed to Covid/Omnicron. All these stupid regulations and rules are doing is giving governments worldwide complete control over us and 80% of people are so gullible and scared the are happy to comply.

[Alavan]

31 minutes ago, CharlesW said:

If someone is seriously ill already or very old how can the cause of death be attributed to Covid/Omnicron. All these stupid regulations and rules are doing is giving governments worldwide complete control over us and 80% of people are so gullible and scared the are happy to comply.

So if you had a serious disease, cancer, diabetes, hearth condition or another one, and you were treated in hospital with a chance of recovery, or even not in hospital, it would be ok for you to catch covid diminueing your chances to survive?

[PBS]

6 hours ago, AlexPTY said:

sooner people understand, that this virus going nowhere is better. life goes on and i read few articles about Omicron causing a herd immunity is some places without really killing anyone. don't want to be an optimist here, but really, what else we can do? prepare, protect and use common sense.

sounds like a Xmas resolution, i will take it

Deaths from Omicron have been reported in a number of countries, though a lot less than from prior variants. Plus due to numbers being infected requiring hospital treatment, risk of insufficient number of beds for patients. Example report of death...

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/texas-health-officials-record-first-death-related-omicron-variant-abc-news-2021-12-21/

[Rain]

2 hours ago, astro said:

Isn't that obvious?

People need cars and motorbikes to move around. Nobody needs or wants a potentially deadly virus.

As of yet, hasn't been proven to be that overwhelmingly deadly. 

But, repeated over and again as it might be.

[Convert54]

56 minutes ago, CharlesW said:

If someone is seriously ill already or very old how can the cause of death be attributed to Covid/Omnicron. All these stupid regulations and rules are doing is giving governments worldwide complete control over us and 80% of people are so gullible and scared the are happy to comply.

There is an alternative perspective . If someone is seriously ill or even suffering a terminal disease and are in transit to hospital in a vehicle that is involved in an accident in which they suffer serious injury which their previous disease state has weakened them and they die....what is the immediate cause of death?

Differentiating death "due to"  and death "with" becomes a dubious definition. Even when unexpected deaths occur in the apparent "young and  healthy" where an autopsy reveals congenital defects that a viral disease  aggravates such as a heart damaged by a childhood infection or  even a recent auto immune response that attacks various organs or structures of the body. What then is "cause of death" coincidental to concurrent covid-19 infection ? The infection or the induced physiological organ failure from a specified viral infection?

So is it that your specified 80% are gullible or are they making a calculated guess on best response? In the longer term do "we" get to know of the outcome of the 20% who chose an opposite choice? Sometimes yes with the stories of "regret" by those about to die . Great propaganda material aimed at the resistance to vaccination. Problematic for the  anti-vax proponents is that while this pandemic as declared is ongoing there is no definitive conclusion as yet  as to the final outcome of their choice.

It therefore in effect comes down to the basis of democratic majority rule where 80%  versus 20% establishes a majority consensus  regardless. Despite that the 20% who keep the question alive is also important to moderate the monopolistic opportunities provided by the 80%. And it is that that IMO is an imperative ! Sadly the  "science" initially promulgated in justification of mass vaccinations  has resulted in suspicion of merit.

In my personal ongoing assessment of the global reactionary responses there is a "Handbook" conformity !

It is when and where this obligation to follow the "handbook" is presented to aspirant political entities I would desire to know  !  I am convinced it come in expensive installments ! lmao

 

[Convert54]

7 hours ago, Stonker said:

Spot on.

Unfortunately reality isn't something those celebrating the return of tourism here are known for, and while the "newly arrived tourists" may be well protected the majority of people here aren't and the consequences will become clear but it'll be too late.

A confirmation that the typical "tourist" has no consideration or empathy for the population or even the environment of their chosen holiday location for crass subjective  abuse based on simplistic  conformity to superior mentality of "origin" !

Sadly similar applies to even  many long term expats  who exist in some strange distorted assumption that having stayed x amount of years and the locals smile as that foreigner pays the bill and  goes back to 'Place of  stay" that they have respect. Truth is they are simply known as "no financial  risk " !

 

 

 

[Rain]

28 minutes ago, Convert54 said:

A confirmation that the typical "tourist" has no consideration or empathy for the population or even the environment of their chosen holiday location for crass subjective  abuse based on simplistic  conformity to superior mentality of "origin" !

Sadly similar applies to even  many long term expats  who exist in some strange distorted assumption that having stayed x amount of years and the locals smile as that foreigner pays the bill and  goes back to 'Place of  stay" that they have respect. Truth is they are simply known as "no financial  risk " !

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