Jan. 6 committee will move to hold former Trump aide Bannon in criminal contempt for not complying with subpoena

[23RD]

3 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

But the Mueller report did not clear Trump did it?

Its simply came to the conclusion that Trump may or may not have been colluding with Russian agencies but because he was a sitting President there was nothing they could do about it. 

You are right about Sussman though. Its hard to remember who Trump fired because he did so many.

And the issues of Trump and the erm cough golden showers was never debunked either was it? 

Do you really believe if a bunch of very angry Democrats with a 40 Million dollar budget have one iota of evidence against Trump they wouldn't have used it ? What those anti Trumper's were saying on TV and under oath was 2 different things Trump and Ric Grinell pulled a blinder by declassifing their behind closed door testimony it totally discredited them.

[JohninDublin]

On 10/19/2021 at 3:11 PM, 23RD said:

No I'm not the one that's delusional Blacks in the US have a special privilege right now unfortunately for many young Black males in the US (as well as the UK and most other places) the biggest threat to the life off a young Black male is another Black male. You might want to check law enforcement and FBI statistics prior to making that sort of statement.

For once you've actually written something that I can agree with. But that does not explain why black men (and women) die at a disproportionately higher rate by cops, than any other races do.

For those who are interested, a POC who dies by homicide is about 90% likely to be killed by another POC. 

[Rookiescot]

7 minutes ago, JohninDubin said:

I don't know about "common place", but it certainly is disproportionate

Cant paste the graph but it seems they dont like Latino of Native Americans either.

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, 23RD said:

Do you really believe if a bunch of very angry Democrats with a 40 Million dollar budget have one iota of evidence against Trump they wouldn't have used it ? What those anti Trumper's were saying on TV and under oath was 2 different things Trump and Ric Grinell pulled a blinder by declassifing their behind closed door testimony it totally discredited them.

No see you have done it again.

You are confusing your opinion with facts.

You claimed the Meuller report cleared Trump. It did not. It simply said that because he was President there was nothing they could do about it.

Trump claimed he had been cleared but then again Trump lies. A lot.

[JohninDublin]

On 10/19/2021 at 3:53 PM, riclag said:

The left  narrative is  "you guys", inferring everyone, who entered or participated in the capital building! Granted a very small  number of extremist caused trouble !

The left will have you believe that this mostly peaceful protest is far worse then the summer of love riots imop! Recent footage  that was obtained from a judge refusal to give into the demands of federal prosecutors shows conflicting reports!  This left activist reporter describes A breach  . This footage from the buzzfeed reporter shows the police were inviting  some people in . Second cop in line bottom feed. Some breach 555

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/capitol-footage-police-trump-insurrection-mob

It shows a breach. I am certainly not suggesting that all those there that day, behaved badly, but I think the pictures from the front of the Capitol show that many were. How does this clip of a few people apparently behaving themselves, excuse the conduct of the many who were not so well behaved?

[JohninDublin]

On 10/19/2021 at 4:09 PM, Convert54 said:

I find it fascinatingly sad to witness the partisan, sectarian, racist , etc etc devolution of the USA in it's social recognition of the fact that it is and has been a suppressed introvert society based on the dictate of it's glorious "Constitution" which contains no aspect of genuine humanitarian morality but promotes the debate over "legal rights" that are systemically assumed in favour of the advantaged.

My apologies. I can only vote once for that comment.

[JohninDublin]

On 10/20/2021 at 5:06 AM, 23RD said:

Do you really believe anything from the Guardian??? Their not exactly a bastion of truth.

Translation: I prefer fake news.

[23RD]

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Trump claimed he had been cleared but then again Trump lies. A lot.

Like the MSM when they said Hunters laptop was Russian misinformation ? Proved false 

The Mueller probe couldn't lay out any evidence of collusion between the Trump Campaign and Russia but it did prove the Clinton campaign colluded with Russia in a misinformation campaign. 

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, 23RD said:

Like the MSM when they said Hunters laptop was Russian misinformation ? Proved false 

The Mueller probe couldn't lay out any evidence of collusion between the Trump Campaign and Russia but it did prove the Clinton campaign colluded with Russia in a misinformation campaign. 

But you claimed the Mueller report cleared Trump.

It did not. It simply said that there may or may not have been collusion between Trump and Russian agencies but because he was a sitting President there was nothing they could do about it.

And of course the alleged video of Trump enjoying warm showers with Russian escorts has never been released but I bet Putin has watched it a few times and laughed a lot.

[23RD]

17 minutes ago, JohninDubin said:

For once you've actually written something that I can agree with. But that does not explain why black men (and women) die at a disproportionately higher rate by cops, than any other races do.

For those who are interested, a POC who dies by homicide is about 90% likely to be killed by another POC. 

Yes agreed John Bud this is a fact of life in The US  I blame all the Rap music they listen to drives them Ting Tong. 

[JohninDublin]

21 hours ago, 23RD said:

Right PBS buddy let's just examine your statement and it will prove my point as to way this Committee has no morale or legal credibility.

Your saying Jim Bank's and Jim Jordan should not be allowed on this Committee because they were strong supporters of The Greatest US President since Lincoln? I'd say that's exactly why they should have been on it because it would make the Committee some what fair and balanced for example if you had a Blackman on trial would you pick 12 White Men for Jury service or if you had a Man on trial would you pick 12 Women for Jury service? 

That's why the Committee lacked credibility as without Banks & Jordan there was no objective cross examination of witnesses ( even though the witnesses were all hand picked Democrats). And the inclusion of Liz Cheney & Adam Kinzinger make the Committee even more bias as they both had accused President Trump of being guilty.

This is just another example of Democrats changing the rules and precedence of US Law to facilitate themselves.

The Greatest US President since Lincoln?  To paraphrase Lincoln, "You can fool some of the people all of the time".

And the inclusion of Liz Cheney & Adam Kinzinger make the Committee even more bias as they both had accused President Trump of being guilty. That goes to show that there are still a few Republicans with integrity. Even McConnell spoke out against Trump's involvement in this, though he refused to convict him on what he invoked as a legal technicality.

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, 23RD said:

Yes agreed John Bud this is a fact of life in The US  I blame all the Rap music they listen to drives them Ting Tong. 

Not sure Rap music is to blame but it is crap I will give you that 

[JohninDublin]

14 hours ago, PBS said:

BS

You are "on fire" today. Succinct and to the point.

[23RD]

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

And of course the alleged video of Trump enjoying warm showers with Russian escorts has never been released but I bet Putin has watched it a few times and laughed a lot.

Your right no such tape was every released (or leaked) because it never existed however what has been proven by financial records leaked is that Vladimir Putin gave the Biden family a 3.5 million dollar back hander via a close ally (who happens to be married to the Mayor of Moscow) 

So the question being who's more compromised Trump or Biden?

[JohninDublin]

9 hours ago, 23RD said:

 And when your as sharp as me you can think for yourself. 

I think you've posted in the wrong thread. This should be in the joke section.

[23RD]

5 minutes ago, JohninDubin said:

hink you've posted in the wrong thread. This should be in the joke section

A good joke right now live on TV Merrick Garland and the Democrats getting shredded yet again by the sharp Republicans. 

[Rookiescot]

7 minutes ago, 23RD said:

Your right no such tape was every released (or leaked) because it never existed however what has been proven by financial records leaked is that Vladimir Putin gave the Biden family a 3.5 million dollar back hander via a close ally (who happens to be married to the Mayor of Moscow) 

So the question being who's more compromised Trump or Biden?

You keep on deflecting from the fact you claimed the Mueller report cleared Trump. 

It did not.

Anyway I am off for a beer so have a good evening and we can pick this up tomorrow. 

[23RD]

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

Anyway I am off for a beer so have a good evening and we can pick this up tomorrow.

Same here Bud I'm watching the Republicans shred the Democrats live on TV with a couple of cans of Strongbow quality entertainment. 

[JohninDublin]

2 minutes ago, 23RD said:

A good joke right now live on TV Merrick Garland and the Democrats getting shredded yet again by the sharp Republicans. 

I just love the stories fantasies about the GOP's ability to "shred" democrats. On more than one occasion they produced a black woman who was a staffer at the WH to prove that Trump was not a racist.

That reminded me of the time Hoover was accused of being racist because there were no black FBI agents. His response was the following day, to drag his (black) chuffeur before the cameras and give him an FBI badge. But he never gave him a gun.

[Freeduhdumb]

On 10/20/2021 at 7:39 AM, Rookiescot said:

On 10/19/2021 at 11:06 PM, 23RD said:

Do you really believe anything from the Guardian??? Their not exactly a bastion of truth.

Which bastion of truth do you read then?

Corporate owned "truth" tellers don't exist... that is the truth. If there is any truth, it will be buried in with all the lies intended to often obfuscate the real truth. Unless you can independently verify what they are telling how do YOU know it is the truth?

Edited October 21, 2021 by Freeduhdumb
Grammar correction additional content.

[23RD]

15 minutes ago, JohninDubin said:

about the GOP's ability to "shred" democrats.

OMG watching this live The Democrats changing the rules of the Committee almost immediately to stop The one step ahead Republicans for producing video evidence to the American People (shades of the USSR's heyday in the Democrats actions I haven't seen these sort of tactics in a Democracy before) 

Will this wakeup the American People to the Bolsivik type nature of The Modern day Democrats????

Edited October 21, 2021 by 23RD

[JohninDublin]

On 10/19/2021 at 1:04 PM, 23RD said:

Zero because Merrick Garland's DOJ dropped all the charges that were pending against BLM & Antifa for a summer or rioting that left 30 people dead and over a Billion dollars of damage to primary Minority owned businesses.

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FYI and from the WSJ, which I assume meets your standards for truth and accuracy. It not only nails the lie in your post but it also points out that the DoJ under Barr, also dismissed charges at Portland for many of the same reasons that Garland did.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/almost-half-of-federal-cases-against-portland-rioters-have-been-dismissed-11618501979

[JohninDublin]

1 hour ago, 23RD said:

Like the MSM when they said Hunters laptop was Russian misinformation ? Proved false 

The Mueller probe couldn't lay out any evidence of collusion between the Trump Campaign and Russia but it did prove the Clinton campaign colluded with Russia in a misinformation campaign. 

Whether your statements are true or not, you are again going for the only tool you have in your foolbox: Whataboutery. 

And as I've said to you several times previously, it relies on two wrongs making a right. A very perverse doctrine,

[23RD]

2 minutes ago, JohninDubin said:

FYI and from the WSJ, which I assume meets your standards for truth and accuracy. It not only nails the lie in your post but it also points out that the DoJ under Barr, also dismissed charges at Portland for many of the same reasons that Garland did

So John in the year 2021 or 2020 when the majority of these heinous Antifa and BLM crimes were committed when nearly everybody has a TV a smartphone with a camera and a laptop or tablet with an ability to livestream even though the Left leaning MSM labeled the above mentioned action were MOSTLY PEACEFUL PROTEST its obvious to millions of People around the World of the serious nature of these riots

It certainly was to me probably because of the extensive training in Public Order and restraint and  arrest technique's that I was trained in during my previous life as well as conducting Public Order Operations in to my recollection 3 different theaters of operations.

Now many of this individual Antifa BLM rioters were restrained and arrested by Law Enforcement at the time of there crimes and during Bill Barrs time as Attorney General charged where the evidence was clear however because of The Black Block Tactics of groups like Antifa dress the the same cover faces do not carry any means of identification refuse to give their personal details and In some cases disguise themselves as members of the press it is not always possible to identify an individual beyond reasonably doubt.

My point is a number of the above mentioned individuals were still either incarceration or under investigation in 20/01/2021 during the change in Administration these are the individuals that the current AG Merrick Garland and his DOJ released without charge or further investigation not the first time the Biden DOJ has released serious criminals without charge I may add.

[23RD]

18 minutes ago, JohninDubin said:

Whether your statements are true or not, you are again going for the only tool you have in your foolbox: Whataboutery.

You keep using the word Whataboutery John but let me rephrase that for you what I'm actually doing is highlighting the duel Justice system in the US.