News Forum - Saturday Covid-19 Update: New infections, deaths

[Thaiger]

Today, the CCSA reported 11,375 new Covid-19 infections. Coronavirus-related deaths fell below 100 for the first time in months with 87 deaths. Since April 1, in the latest wave of the virus in Thailand, a total of 1,597,3741 confirmed Covid-19 infections have been reported. In the 24-hour period since the last count, the CCSA has reported 13,127 recoveries, 654 more than yesterday. There are now 113,394 people currently receiving treatment for Covid-19, 1,839 less than yesterday, though 16 more people were put on ventilators, one of the very few negative figures in today’s Covid-19 report. Out of the new cases, […]

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[palooka]

Still playing around with the real numbers obviously.

Government would be far better off acknowledging the covid cases as those who survive can and should be ADDED to the vaccination numbers. 

Covid survivors had the real thing and their immunity to covid is far stronger than those vaccinated.

Wonder what sort of Cetificate to travel they get?

Edited October 2, 2021 by palooka
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[palooka]

 

Now, the reported number of vaccines given on the last day in September is listed by the DDC to be a staggering 2,288,728 injections, with over 1.3 million people receiving their second doses that day. It seems like such an impressing accomplishment would be exalted and heralded in the press, but the record-shattering achievement seems to have gone unmentioned.

More information and provincial totals will be reported by the CCSA this afternoon.

SOURCE: DDC

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Neill is a journalist from the United States with 10 years broadcasting experience and national news and magazine publications. He graduated with a degree in journalism and communications from the University of California and has been living in Thailand since 2014.

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Edited October 2, 2021 by palooka
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[Bob20]

23 minutes ago, palooka said:

Now, the reported number of vaccines given on the last day in September is listed by the DDC to be a staggering 2,288,728 injections, with over 1.3 million people receiving their second doses that day. It seems like such an impressing accomplishment would be exalted and heralded in the press, but the record-shattering achievement seems to have gone unmentioned.

The figures are all over the place.

Take into account the reported figures of 25 September, incl. by the heath minister and PM, reported to be from 1m to 1.6m, now showing up officially as 475.000

Also take into account that many vaccination stations, with big advertising signs claiming to be jabbing daily with Sinovac/AZ actually remain closed, and members on the forum reporting that their appointments have been cancelled.

Now there could be many reasons, shortages again, over-reporting, plain propaganda, anything really...

What is clear is that what we are presented with is anything but!

https://thethaiger.com/talk/topic/5838-news-forum-thailand-reduces-quarantine-to-7-days-for-fully-vaccinated-arrivals-from-october/?do=findComment&comment=70431

https://thethaiger.com/talk/topic/5733-vaccination-numbers-and-further-planning/

[Stonker]

2 hours ago, palooka said:

Still playing around with the real numbers obviously.

Government would be far better off acknowledging the covid cases as those who survive can and should be ADDED to the vaccination numbers. 

Covid survivors had the real thing and their immunity to covid is far stronger than those vaccinated.

Wonder what sort of Cetificate to travel they get?

Agreed, but very few countries do that even where vaccination is a job requirement or a vaccine passport is widely required, and AFAIK it's not recognised anywhere for international travel.

The problem for Thailand is that if it does happen many who've had Covid but who weren't tested won't qualify, while their Sinovac vaccinations won't be recognised internationally or effective.

[palooka]

7 minutes ago, Stonker said:

Agreed, but very few countries do that even where vaccination is a job requirement or a vaccine passport is widely required, and AFAIK it's not recognised anywhere for international travel.

The problem for Thailand is that if it does happen many who've had Covid but who weren't tested won't qualify, while their Sinovac vaccinations won't be recognised internationally or effective.

Surely there must be a marker detectable with a blood test/ or a less invasive means to verify quickly they have had Covid.

[AussieBob]

5 minutes ago, Stonker said:

Agreed, but very few countries do that even where vaccination is a job requirement or a vaccine passport is widely required, and AFAIK it's not recognised anywhere for international travel.

The problem for Thailand is that if it does happen many who've had Covid but who weren't tested won't qualify, while their Sinovac vaccinations won't be recognised internationally or effective.

True - but China is applying the 'pressure'.  In Australia the Sinovac has been recently approved - it seems mainly because of the Chinese Govt threat to 'cancel' the 100K+ Chinese students who want to enter Australia early next year (new term starts Feb) and contribute about $12 Billion AUD to the economy (or if TAT was doing the numbers it would be $900 Billion AUD ). 

I would assume that what you said is right - countries will only allow travellers into their country with 'approved' vaccines.  But I would also assume that China will apply 'pressure' like they did to Australia and USA, who have both relented and approved the Chinese vaccines for their international students. But neither country is planning to give Sinovac to their own people. It seems to be that the 'approval' may be only for Chinese students, and it therefore may not apply for all travellers. 

[HiuMak]

12 minutes ago, AussieBob said:

True - but China is applying the 'pressure'.  In Australia the Sinovac has been recently approved - it seems mainly because of the Chinese Govt threat to 'cancel' the 100K+ Chinese students who want to enter Australia early next year (new term starts Feb) and contribute about $12 Billion AUD to the economy (or if TAT was doing the numbers it would be $900 Billion AUD ). 

I would assume that what you said is right - countries will only allow travellers into their country with 'approved' vaccines.  But I would also assume that China will apply 'pressure' like they did to Australia and USA, who have both relented and approved the Chinese vaccines for their international students. But neither country is planning to give Sinovac to their own people. It seems to be that the 'approval' may be only for Chinese students, and it therefore may not apply for all travellers. 

Why give in and relent? Where is morrison's voice now?

[Stonker]

37 minutes ago, palooka said:

Surely there must be a marker detectable with a blood test/ or a less invasive means to verify quickly they have had Covid.

There are antibody tests that test blood, but none are quick and many aren't that accurate yet.

[Stonker]

36 minutes ago, AussieBob said:

True - but China is applying the 'pressure'.  In Australia the Sinovac has been recently approved - it seems mainly because of the Chinese Govt threat to 'cancel' the 100K+ Chinese students who want to enter Australia early next year (new term starts Feb) and contribute about $12 Billion AUD to the economy (or if TAT was doing the numbers it would be $900 Billion AUD ). 

I would assume that what you said is right - countries will only allow travellers into their country with 'approved' vaccines.  But I would also assume that China will apply 'pressure' like they did to Australia and USA, who have both relented and approved the Chinese vaccines for their international students. But neither country is planning to give Sinovac to their own people. It seems to be that the 'approval' may be only for Chinese students, and it therefore may not apply for all travellers. 

Thanks, I wasn't aware of that.

If that only applies to students that really is unjustifiable.

[MrStretch]

Chonburi has twice as many new cases as Songkhla, but they're talking about opening Chonburi, while Songkhla continues to remain a dark red province.

The logic defies imagination.

[Bob20]

16 minutes ago, MrStretch said:

Chonburi has twice as many new cases as Songkhla, but they're talking about opening Chonburi, while Songkhla continues to remain a dark red province.

The logic defies imagination.

I think you're being very nice for calling it "logic" at all

[Stonker]

30 minutes ago, MrStretch said:

Chonburi has twice as many new cases as Songkhla, but they're talking about opening Chonburi, while Songkhla continues to remain a dark red province.

The logic defies imagination.

Phuket has sometimes had over a hundred times as many cases as Loei, and consistently has five or ten times as many, but despite having a similar size population Loei is red and Phuket is orange.

[Stonker]

1 hour ago, HiuMak said:

Why give in and relent? Where is morrison's voice now?

I tried to edit my reply to @AussieBob but the rain started here so I was too slow.

I can't see how it can be a problem, but if any Chinese students or Chinese visitors catch or pass on Covid then, rightly or wrongly,  someone won't be popular.

I really do think having had Covid should count for something and it's one point (maybe the only point) the anti-vaxxers have got very right.

Maybe they just cried 'wolf' too much.

[palooka]

1 hour ago, MrStretch said:

Chonburi has twice as many new cases as Songkhla, but they're talking about opening Chonburi, while Songkhla continues to remain a dark red province.

The logic defies imagination.

MONEY is the logic now. Govt getting desperate for income. Debts mounting, baht on the slippery slide.

[AussieBob]

2 hours ago, HiuMak said:

Why give in and relent? Where is morrison's voice now?

A bit of give and take going on at the moment. China is not used to being challenged about their unfair and discriminatory actions, but overall Australia is refusing to back down on the key issues, and is getting support worldwide.  That is another thing China is not used to - being criticised by so many countries they trade with. Seems Covid has given the 'free world' the balls to finally take China on publicly - I hope they all stay the course.   

[AussieBob]

11 minutes ago, palooka said:

MONEY is the logic now. Govt getting desperate for income. Debts mounting, baht on the slippery slide.

That is always true.  But their big driver is not only the economy etc, it is also their and their political allies falling likelihood of winning the next elections in 2023.   The one that Anutin leads (Bhumjaithai Party) is very likely to be decimated at the next election - he was a Minister with Thaksin and they got a lot of votes that were definitely not supposed to be used to help the Junta hold on to power.  The Palang Pracharath Party, which is the Junta, will get some votes, but nowhere near as much as they did last time around. 

[palooka]

12 minutes ago, AussieBob said:

That is always true.  But their big driver is not only the economy etc, it is also their and their political allies falling likelihood of winning the next elections in 2023.   The one that Anutin leads (Bhumjaithai Party) is very likely to be decimated at the next election - he was a Minister with Thaksin and they got a lot of votes that were definitely not supposed to be used to help the Junta hold on to power.  The Palang Pracharath Party, which is the Junta, will get some votes, but nowhere near as much as they did last time around. 

Until they change the Constitution Prayut still stays, or until another General thinks he's getting screwed financially, and Prayut goes to live somewhere he can live in luxury.  The Constitution is the real sticking point unless the have an all out dust up on the streets as the have done before.

[AussieBob]

6 minutes ago, palooka said:

Until they change the Constitution Prayut still stays, or until another General thinks he's getting screwed financially, and Prayut goes to live somewhere he can live in luxury.  The Constitution is the real sticking point unless the have an all out dust up on the streets as the have done before.

I understand the issue you speak of, but is not the PM nominated by the main Party from the elected representatives in the House - and then House and the Senate votes Yes/No? 

[palooka]

13 minutes ago, AussieBob said:

I understand the issue you speak of, but is not the PM nominated by the main Party from the elected representatives in the House - and then House and the Senate votes Yes/No? 

I believe that is correct but whilst you can get rid of Prayut, they cannot get rid of the control the Army has on the number of seats. You would only be swapping the devil you know for his clone in Generals uniform. 

Any opposition would ALL have to unite together to get a serious change, the brown paper bag factory would be working overtime and the holy baht I think would win.  Saddening really. 

Thais, even in the smaller villages are bribed to vote one way or another. If someone gives them something they want or need then the village will vote for the giver, the political repercussions are not considered.

Alcohol sales are banned around elections, for this reason. Thais can be their own worst enemies sometimes.