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Time to dissolve the Catholic Church
Another good post, Mr Dog, but again (respectfully) with a few flaws. Towards the end of your post, you mention that "...internal reform may be the only viable option". Forgive me, but when one does research into this subject, the idea that the Catholic Church will deal with this problem internally is frankly laughable. Opportunity after opportunity after opportunity after opportunity going back decade after decade after decade after decade to reform has been presented but not taken up and, again respectfully, banging one's head against a wall accomplishes nothing other than causing a headache. Moreover, I don't think you quite get how the Freedom of Religion clause in the Canadian (and other) Constitution works. It does allow a person to believe what they want (good thing), but doesn't allow a religious organization to do whatever they want without consequence. For example, if I were to found the Church of the Blessed Shade which included Virgin Sacrifice and practiced my "faith", the police, the courts and the prison guards would have a good chuckle as they led me to my cell, welded the door shut and tossed out the key. That said, I do understand your notion that the words "Freedom of Religion" would be repeated ad nauseum by 'Talking Heads' on television. Shakespeare should have said "...Kill all the Lawyers AND the PR/Party flacks..." The answer is through the courts, both national and international, with the concepts of 'Conspiracy' and 'Class Action', and all it really takes is one case which 'Blazes the Trail'. Yup, go after the money and collective responsibility in a big way. No settlements, no forced arbitration, no NDAs, as these are means to protect the powerful, but one good court judgement that can be cited by others and the whole proverbial 'Ball of Yarn' will begin to unravel. Is it 'doable'? Yes. One precedent that withstands an Appellate Court is the bludgeon, and once the doors are forced open and the funds threatened, even the Church itself will realize that the status quo isn't feasible and the options are reform or die. But, until then... We are very much in agreement on many aspects of this issue, but I don't share your hesitancy. Big Tabacco thought they were invincible, but they weren't, Big God may think that they are invincible, but they aren't. It just needs that first foot in the door. As a side note, I would like to add that I respect your contention on the good that religion can do. A few years back I was working in Indonesia when my housekeeper's husband ran off leaving her with four kids and no cash. She was always serene about it (that drove me nuts) and one day I asked her how she could be so calm. Her answer was simple "it is the way of Allah" and then she smiled that damn smile again. I keep in touch and she still is hanging on, raising her kids, and doing well all because of her faith. Honestly, sometimes I am a bit jealous as I don't share a faith. I have several other religious anecdotes from my life, but that is my favourite. A pleasant Sunday to you and yours! -
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Time to dissolve the Catholic Church
I was brought up as a Catholic, & luckily not abused physically, although at times the Nuns & Father's, took delight in chastising me & my sister. She was told at 14, that if she "kissed a boy, she would get pregnant!". However, she discovered quite quickly, that this wasn't true. No need to document all the badness, I & many others experienced. But some of the teachings & pontifical statements, had quite a profound negative effect on me. I agree with Smithydog, that the issues are with organised Religion & the power they hold. The Vatican's wealth, is estimated to be $15 billion- can't see that's right:At all. There are many good Nuns & Monks though & do a lot of good & do help many people. I don't think it should be disbanded however, but a lot more openess & control needs to be exercised. https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,833509,00.html
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