Private messages must remain confidential: Vote against the EU Chat Control!

[BlueSphinx]

Hello, I just signed the petition to the Members of the European Parliament: "Private messages must remain confidential: Vote against the EU Chat Control!"
This proposal would allow the scanning all our private messages, including encrypted ones. While aimed at fighting crime, it’s a serious invasion of privacy and could lead to mass surveillance and misuse.
Please join me in signing the petition. Thank you so much!

Click here: https://cgo.ac/scR0eXlf

Thanks!

[McTavish]

Already, nothing on the 'net is private unless end-to-end encrypted, and even then security conscious persons use another means to communicate which does not require sending/receiving.

 

Smoke and Mirrors 

[AussieBob]

I am OK with 'security agencies' being able to access anyone's messages in the line of duty.  However, this basic centralised EU agency 'review' of all messaging and referral to police of anything thought to be 'suspicious' is totally wrong and is an invasion of privacy. Not only that (which is enough), it will also incur a massive resource drain on the police who are already stretched, because most of the reports will be 'nothing'.  And on top of that, the social stigma of having a Police visit could have you labelled as a paedophile or domestic abuser. Only ignorant out of touch woke progressive public servants could think this was a good idea - and there are a lot of them in the EU. 

[Thaidup]

On 10/15/2024 at 2:01 PM, McTavish said:

Already, nothing on the 'net is private unless end-to-end encrypted, and even then security conscious persons use another means to communicate which does not require sending/receiving.

Smoke and Mirrors 

I heard something about an end to end encrypted message app owner being arrested? I think it is called Telegram,

As far as I can tell so far, the EU does not want people talking amongst themselves unless they know what you are talking about.

Am I wrong?

I mean if they suspect that criminal activity is taking place they can provide the suspicion and evidence to a court and get a warrant, No?

[Thaidup]

16 minutes ago, Thaidup said:

I heard something about an end to end encrypted message app owner being arrested? I think it is called Telegram,

As far as I can tell so far, the EU does not want people talking amongst themselves unless they know what you are talking about.

Am I wrong?

I mean if they suspect that criminal activity is taking place they can provide the suspicion and evidence to a court and get a warrant, No?

This would be a good hind site example,

Imagine if back in 1933, people in Germany where talking over an encrypted app about how to overthrow the government and bring democracy back to Germany? Im sure that the German government would have wanted access to all social media DM.s  as the EU want now.

Its a NAZI style invasion of privacy, right or wrong, whats private is private, If you are doing illigal stuff than get a warrant and face the law.

This "Big Brother" crap is getting worse every decade, and it needs to stop. No-one likes the government peeping over their shoulder watching what they are doing, the government should get back to their job of protecting our borders and citizens.

[McTavish]

On 10/19/2024 at 3:31 AM, Thaidup said:

I heard something about an end to end encrypted message app owner being arrested? I think it is called Telegram,

As far as I can tell so far, the EU does not want people talking amongst themselves unless they know what you are talking about.

Am I wrong?

I mean if they suspect that criminal activity is taking place they can provide the suspicion and evidence to a court and get a warrant, No?

Telegram is not secure.  Signal is one of the best apps but all can be intercepted and decrypted by agencies such as ASIO and NSA .

Spies and savvy crims use other methods to communicate.  Actually, anyone can set up and use the email/draft folder method.

[Manu]

On 10/20/2024 at 5:59 AM, McTavish said:

Telegram is not secure.  Signal is one of the best apps but all can be intercepted and decrypted by agencies such as ASIO and NSA .

Spies and savvy crims use other methods to communicate.  Actually, anyone can set up and use the email/draft folder method.

Sky ECC was the most used one by organised crime worlwide until 2021 as police in Belgium, The Netherlands and France together eventually managed to crack it (Sky ECC has promised 1 million euros to anyone who would crack it, not sure if the police asked for it at the end though he he). All this has been known to the public much later, 100s of criminals were arrested around the globe. I remember reading an article about it, one of the french policeman was saying that while it was successful to arrest criminals, it was also a disaster in the privacy matter as 10 000s of people have also been spied on. So yes, the EU Chat control is definitely a bad move for privacy. That also means loads of data stored somewhere which could be ending evntually in any hands.