Bangkok doctor who received 2 doses of Sinovac dies of Covid-19

[Thaiger]

The death from Covid-19 of another fully vaccinated healthcare worker has led to increased calls for Pfizer booster shots. The Bangkok Post reports that the death of Dr Saranya Lapanich was announced on Facebook by Anutra Chittinandana from the Royal College of Physicians of Thailand. Dr Saranya, who was also known as Dr Am, worked at Bhumibol Adulyadej Hospital in Bangkok and Anutra’s post described her as a strong woman who was well-liked by those who worked with her. “I’m shocked about the news of Dr Saranya. She is likely to be the first health worker at the hospital to […]

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[HolyCowCm]

Let this death be on their greedy little hands.

[Chaimai]

Hmmm....... maybe wait for the autopsy.

[sputnik]

so sad....but sinovac against covid 19 same efficient like three bottle beer for breakfast ...or three pushups three minutes after three....or a shot of tequila at three am...

lets face it vaccines don't work...at least not this sinovac...

maybe they infect u with covid which u otherwise would not get...

[Artemis080]

I feel so much more secure in Phuket where most of us were vaccinated with Sinovac...

[Zool]

...Thailand is struggling with low supplies of Covid-19 vaccines, in particular mRNA vaccines such as Pfizer and Moderna, which studies have shown remain effective against the Delta variant....

Which studies?

 

[PBS]

Same scenario in Indonesia with a large number of health workers who received the same vaccine dying from Covid. Thai government should have provided Pfizer booster shoots many weeks ago- the delay is incompetence at its worst.

[NumbNut]

22 hours ago, sputnik said:

so sad....but sinovac against covid 19 same efficient like three bottle beer for breakfast ...or three pushups three minutes after three....or a shot of tequila at three am...

lets face it vaccines don't work...at least not this sinovac...

maybe they infect u with covid which u otherwise would not get...

three bottle beer for breakfast... sign me up! This is a program I can get behind!

[shanghailoz]

33 minutes ago, NumbNut said:

three bottle beer for breakfast... sign me up! This is a program I can get behind!

[shanghailoz]

50 minutes ago, PBS said:

Same scenario in Indonesia with a large number of health workers who received the same vaccine dying from Covid. Thai government should have provided Pfizer booster shoots many weeks ago- the delay is incompetence at its worst.

Curious - Any evidence for that?

News links?

I do see something about the death rates from Reuters, but it appears to contradict what you wrote - 

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/indonesia-finds-covid-deaths-more-than-three-times-higher-unvaccinated-2021-08-05/

 

The mortality rate of those who were not vaccinated was 15.5% compared with 4.1% for those who had received two shots of either the Sinovac (SVA.O) or AstraZeneca (AZN.L) vaccine, according to data from state hospitals and almost 68,000 patients in Jakarta from May to July.

Separately, data from the town of Banyuwangi on Java island, showed that 93% of COVID patients who died from March to July were not vaccinated, while 6% percent had received a first dose, and 1% had been fully vaccinated.

 

 

Ok, found something;  the Grauniad has an article about it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/28/indonesian-covid-deaths-add-to-questions-over-sinovac-vaccine

At least 10 out of 26 Indonesian doctors who have died from Covid-19 this month had been fully vaccinated with Sinovac, prompting health experts to consider whether medics should receive alternative doses to boost immunity.

 

In Kudus, a town in central Java, more than 500 medical workers have tested positive for Covid-19 over the last two weeks, including one doctor who died. All were fully vaccinated.

The data, released by the risk mitigation team of the Indonesian Medical Association (IMA), adds to questions about the level of protection that Sinovac provides against new, more infectious variants. Professional groups representing medics are discussing whether an additional dose of AstraZeneca, Pfizer, or Moderna could provide greater protection.

 

 

 

Edited August 14, 2021 by shanghailoz

[PBS]

50 minutes ago, Zool said:

...Thailand is struggling with low supplies of Covid-19 vaccines, in particular mRNA vaccines such as Pfizer and Moderna, which studies have shown remain effective against the Delta variant....

Which studies?

As an example a study which has yet to be peer reviewed below. However, both vaccines have been shown to limit severity of outcomes if infected once fully vaccinated.

Both vaccines are still highly effective against severe disease from the delta variant COVID-19, the study authors stressed. However, Moderna was found to be, on average, 76% effective against infection from the delta variant compared to Pfizer, which was 42% effective against infection from the variant.

 

https://www.sfgate.com/coronavirus/article/Pfizer-moderna-vaccine-effective-delta-variant-16380022.php

 

[Freeduhdumb]

23 hours ago, Chaimai said:

Hmmm....... maybe wait for the autopsy.

It's very possible she died of the vaccine not the virus. What were her symptoms, what was her treating diagnosis before she died? Where's the forensic post-mortem examination? This news report assumes she died of SARS Cov2, there's no evidence of that. 

[PBS]

16 minutes ago, shanghailoz said:

Curious - Any evidence for that?

News links?

I do see something about the death rates from Reuters, but it appears to contradict what you wrote - 

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/indonesia-finds-covid-deaths-more-than-three-times-higher-unvaccinated-2021-08-05/

The mortality rate of those who were not vaccinated was 15.5% compared with 4.1% for those who had received two shots of either the Sinovac (SVA.O) or AstraZeneca (AZN.L) vaccine, according to data from state hospitals and almost 68,000 patients in Jakarta from May to July.

Separately, data from the town of Banyuwangi on Java island, showed that 93% of COVID patients who died from March to July were not vaccinated, while 6% percent had received a first dose, and 1% had been fully vaccinated.

Ok, found something;  the Grauniad has an article about it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/28/indonesian-covid-deaths-add-to-questions-over-sinovac-vaccine

At least 10 out of 26 Indonesian doctors who have died from Covid-19 this month had been fully vaccinated with Sinovac, prompting health experts to consider whether medics should receive alternative doses to boost immunity.

In Kudus, a town in central Java, more than 500 medical workers have tested positive for Covid-19 over the last two weeks, including one doctor who died. All were fully vaccinated.

The data, released by the risk mitigation team of the Indonesian Medical Association (IMA), adds to questions about the level of protection that Sinovac provides against new, more infectious variants. Professional groups representing medics are discussing whether an additional dose of AstraZeneca, Pfizer, or Moderna could provide greater protection.

 

You've answered your own question by establishing basic facts. A later article in July confirms a further 114  doctors dying during a two week period in early July. God only knowns the actual total to date. As I stated gross incompetence by Thai government not ceasing the use of Sinovac, or at the very least prioritising providing booster vaccinations for frontline staff. 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/indonesia-reports-record-number-doctor-deaths-covid-19-july-2021-07-18/

Edited August 14, 2021 by PBS

[shanghailoz]

3 minutes ago, PBS said:

You've answered your own question by establishing basic facts. A later article in July confirms a further 114  doctors dying during a two week period in early July. God only knowns the actual total to date. As I stated gross incompetence by Thai government not ceasing the use of Sinovac, or at the very least prioritising providing booster vaccinations for frontline staff. 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/indonesia-reports-record-number-doctor-deaths-covid-19-july-2021-07-18/

Not sure about gross incompetence, the facts still show substantially reduced death rates.

I do agree with you that a booster shot with another variant vaccine seems to be a good suggestion, now that additional virus mutations are making the rounds.

[9S_]

People at the WHO need to go to prison for propping up Sinovac vaccine. It’s effectiveness at testing was rated 51%. The threshold to pass is 50%, a 1% difference and they gave it Emergency Use Authorization. For perspective AZ, JJ, Moderna and Pfizer have ratings north of 70%. 
 

Let’s not forget that the WHO:

 

1. Denied any human transmissibility was impossible for the initial 3 months of the outbreak in China 

2. WHO sent an investigation team into China, led by Peter Dazak who also funded Gain of Function research in Wuhan found there “was no link to the lab” how convenient 

3. Director of WHO is beholden to China. It was the Chinese voting bloc in the UN who voted for this guy. 

[Kanaloa]

It is of no surprise, but still very sad. Sinovac was released before stage 3 testing was completed. I think that I am correct in saying that it has never received WHO approval 

[Freeduhdumb]

 

Vaccine Risks for Antibody-Dependent Enhancement (ADE)

Virus vaccines can use live-attenuated virus strains, inactivated (killed) virus, protein subunit, messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA), or deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) vaccine. Antibodies induced by vaccines can be neutralizing or non-neutralizing. Non-neutralizing antibodies can contribute to anti-viral activities with mechanisms including antibody-medicated complement-dependent cytotoxicity (CDC), antibody-dependent cellular cytotoxicity (ADCC), antibody-dependent cellular phagocytosis (ADCP) [reviewed (73)]. The yearly influenza vaccine induces both neutralizing and non-neutralizing antibodies that provide projection against the strains in the vaccine and closely related strains. Vaccine-associated enhanced disease (VAED) can result when there are multiple circularizing serotypes of virus [e.g., Dengue fever (55–57)] or when the virus uses antibodies for expanded host cell trophism of phagocytic immune cells.

Many of the viruses associated with ADE have cell membrane fusion mechanisms (38). For influenza A H1N1, vaccine-induced cross-reactive anti-HA2 antibodies in a swine model promote virus fusion causing vaccine-associated enhanced respiratory disease (VAERD) (74). ADE was observed for the respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) in the Bonnet monkey model (37). Van Erp et al. (37) recommends avoidance of induction of respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) non-neutralizing antibodies or subneutralizing antibodies to avoid ADE. ADE has been observed in multiple SARS-CoV-1 animal models. In a mouse model, attempts to create vaccines for SARS-CoV-1 lead to pulmonary immunopathology upon challenge with SARS-CoV-1 (75, 76); these vaccines included inactivated whole viruses, inactivated viruses with adjuvant, and a recombinant DNA spike (S) protein vaccine in a virus-like particle (VLP) vaccine. Severe pneumonia was observed in mice vaccinated with nucleocapsid protein after challenge with SARS-CoV-1 (77). Enhanced hepatitis was observed in a ferret model with a vaccine with recombinant modified vaccinia virus Ankara (rMVA) expressing the SARS-CoV-1 Spike protein (78). ADE was observed for rhesus macaques with SARS-CoV-1 vaccine (79). SARS-CoV-1 ADE is mediated by spike protein antibodies (80). Antibodies to the SARS-CoV-1 spike protein can mediate viral entry via Fc receptor-expressing cells in a dose-dependent manner (54). Jaume et al. (34) point out the potential pitfalls associated with immunizations against SARS-CoV-1 Spike protein due to Fc mediate infection of immune cells. This leads to the prediction that new attempts to create either SARS-CoV-1 vaccines, MERS-CoV vaccines (81), or SARS-CoV-2 vaccines have potentially higher risks for inducing ADE in humans facilitated by antibody infection of phagocytic immune cells. This potential ADE risk is independent of the vaccine technology (82) or targeting strategy selected due to predicted phagocytic immune cell infections upon antibody uptake. For MERS patients, the seroconversion rate increased with disease severity (83). Severe clinical worsening for SARS patients occurs concurrently with timing of IgG seroconversion (84). Clinical evidence of early high IgG responses in SARS patients is correlated with disease progression (85) and severity (62–67). Antibody treatments for critically ill COVID-19 patients have been halted due to a potential safety signal and unfavorable risk-benefit profile (86). Current SARS-CoV-2 vaccines appear to be providing protection with high antibody titers; the possibility of ADE risks associated with waning titers of antibodies over time remains unknown.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7943455/

 

[ShibaBud]

Very sad to lose a valuable person & needlessly. But what surprises me is the reaction "need Pfizer booster."

 

Why do I get this Eerie feeling that we are all being "herded" (pardon the pun) into the House of Pfizer?

[Freeduhdumb]

Examples of vaccine-induced enhancement of susceptibility to virus infection or of aberrant viral pathogenesis have been documented for infections by members of different virus families. Several mechanisms, many of which still are poorly understood, are at the basis of this phenomenon. Vaccine development for lentivirus infections in general, and for HIV/AIDS in particular, has been little successful. Certain experimental lentiviral vaccines even proved to be counterproductive: they rendered vaccinated subjects more susceptible to infection rather than protecting them. For vaccine-induced enhanced susceptibility to infection with certain viruses like feline coronavirus, Dengue virus, and feline immunodeficiency virus, it has been shown that antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) plays an important role. Other mechanisms may, either in the absence of or in combination with ADE, be involved. Consequently, vaccine-induced enhancement has been a major stumble block in the development of certain flavi-, corona-, paramyxo-, and lentivirus vaccines. Also recent failures in the development of a vaccine against HIV may at least in part be attributed to induction of enhanced susceptibility to infection. There may well be a delicate balance between the induction of protective immunity on the one hand and the induction of enhanced susceptibility on the other. The present paper reviews the currently known mechanisms of vaccine-induced enhancement of susceptibility to virus infection or of aberrant viral pathogenesis.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7131326/

[Benroon]

On 8/13/2021 at 10:24 AM, sputnik said:

lets face it vaccines don't work...at least not this sinovac...

maybe they infect u with covid which u otherwise would not get...

So the deaths, hospitalisations, downward curves would be due to …..luck ? 

[Benroon]

1 hour ago, NumbNut said:

three bottle beer for breakfast... sign me up! This is a program I can get behind!

I’ve been on it for over 20 years - no virus has a chance ! 

[Yayamanos]

It would be best to await the autopsy, before concluding and there might another underlying causes, and it is at the moment the source is FB!

[dj230]

i thought covid doesn't kill people 

[dmacarelli]

We all know why the lower quality Sinovac was chosen over the more effective vaccines, and that is a crime against the Thai people. There are alot of people who need to be locked up here, some of whom cannot be mentioned. 

[Craig]

It would be fascinating if the media reported the deaths of those after getting the annual flu shot.  Just more info for the wrong to use…again.