News Forum - A guide to the best vegan and vegetarian restaurants in Phuket

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Once known primarily for its picturesque beaches and vibrant nightlife, Phuket has now emerged as a haven for food enthusiasts – and the vegan community is no exception. The island’s culinary scene is brimming with innovative chefs and restaurants that cater to plant-based palates, offering an incredible array of options that go beyond your typical …

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[Karolyn]

Anything marked as vegan will be overpriced, catering as such labelling does, largely to middle class Western tourists. Same with vegetarianism, unless we are talking about Indian restaurants where a choice of veg and non-veg is standard. 

Given goods in Thailand's supermarkets and combinis, understandably, rarely label things in English, a list of 'accidentally vegan' groceries would be nice. Including which are on production lines, that might contain fish, egg, milk, etc.

 

 

[Pinetree]

12 hours ago, Karolyn said:

Anything marked as vegan will be overpriced,

Anything marked 'Vegan' needs to be avoided, including the people that claim to be one. 

[Karolyn]

6 hours ago, Pinetree said:

Anything marked 'Vegan' needs to be avoided, including the people that claim to be one. 

As an ethos it is fine. Most people you will notice, embrace animal rights, but do so inconsistently. So it's wrong to raise dogs, dolphins, or house cats in a battery cage, but no one minds it to hens, etc. Or to crate raised pigs, though its well known pigs are smarter than dogs, and as smart as some cetaceans. 

People knowingly donate to charities that experiment on tame, and defenceless rodents, but there's moral outcry when laboratories take (presumed) former pets, from kill shelters. Well, send the family pet, the researchers could use it... no one does, when they humanised the face. It ain't a rational basis, any more than squeamish veganism. 

I think veganism is unpopular because it forces people, to look at our such everyday inconsistencies. Not least the fact that, if animals do suffer as we do - then the golden rule must extend to them... or avoiding the suffering of others, can be nothing so axiomatic, as we want to take for granted.

After all. If even vegan living requires pest control methods, on farms and in food warehouses... where do you draw the line? Start thinking about these things, and you end up hihilistic, and feeling a bit insane.

So, people dislike veganism, and vegans themselves like to shit out, their reasoning going full circle, over the crop pest control issue. 

 

 

Edited April 8, 2023 by Karolyn

[Grumpish]

12 minutes ago, Karolyn said:

I think veganism is unpopular because it forces people, to look at our such everyday inconsistencies.

And nothing to do with so many vegans being self-righteous ... who love (pun intended) shoving their opinions down everyone else's throats? Not all, by a long way, but a fair few, enough to give a bad name to the rest. 

[Karolyn]

1 hour ago, Grumpish said:

And nothing to do with so many vegans being self-righteous ... who love (pun intended) shoving their opinions down everyone else's throats? Not all, by a long way, but a fair few, enough to give a bad name to the rest. 

The problem is, despite stereotypes, vegans aren't especially self righteous nor forceful. Not in the age of 'w**e' shitlibs, and deranged 'Christo-fascists' .

No one gets sent to prison, for opposing veganism. People do get sent to prison, for anything from doodling racist drawings, to burning the national flag. So I think vegans are a safe target, because they don't get to 'cancel' anyone.

Just about all vegans have eaten meat, which might explain their ACTUAL attitudes to the subject. People who have sincere moral awakenings about things they've done, do have a certain zeal to them, which isn't just empty moral signalling.

Think of soldiers who go anti-war, or people who become pro-life through abortion guilt. Though these sorts of people can have strong convictions... they don't and can't feel superior, having been there and done that themselves.

Anyway I'm sympathetic to veganism, it's just that the nature of humans as just another animal - ironically - tends to make the enterprise absurd. I'm reminded of Albert Schweizer, who showed great compassion to man and beast, but believed idealisms like pacifism were refuted, by man's own nature 

Vegans have their heart in the right place, but there's something 'off' about veganism. It starts off as a critique of the bullshit we take for granted, then veers off into un-pragmatism of its own. 

The widespread vegan notion is false, that our personal choices matter. No one is saving anyone, by a purely personal, consumer choice, that is a drop in the ocean, in an age of industrialised mass slaughterhouses, that crank out factory produced meat products, for popular tastes.

[Khunmark]

Funnily enough, whenever a story on veganism or vegetarianism comes up here, the antagonistic remarks are always delivered from the same camp. And it’s not the vegans or the vegetarians.

[Poolie]

Personally I find those who have opted for veganism to be rather amusing. My nephew for one is a very intelligent lad but his earnestness is side splitting funny. Its only grub after all, either eat it or dont. The detractors are just the same, confused by the difference, which is an age thing. The 'never in my life' lot, there's a lot of 'em about.

[Grumpish]

1 hour ago, Khunmark said:

Funnily enough, whenever a story on veganism or vegetarianism comes up here, the antagonistic remarks are always delivered from the same camp. And it’s not the vegans or the vegetarians.

My negativity comes from personal experience. I have had too many preaching at me - and like religious fanatics, recent converts are the worst, and least able to understand that it is a choice.