News Forum - Muslim students in southern Thailand protest against decriminalisation of cannabis

[Thaiger]

Students, teachers, and the board of Santiwit Songkla Technological College, in the southern province of Songkla, have condemned the government’s decision to decriminalise cannabis in Thailand. The college yesterday called upon all MPs, especially Muslims, and relevant agencies, who supported the bill to decriminalise cannabis on June 9, to reconsider their decision and think about the future effects the drug will have on Thai people. A student representative read out a declaration against the cannabis law, launched by the Private Schools Confederation Association of Southern Thailand, which demanded 5 steps: 1) MPs should consider their opinions and decisions on cannabis […]

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[Cabra]

No more dangerous to your health that smoking a hookah. All this selective outrage is comical

[Marble-eye]

  On 6/15/2022 at 10:38 AM, Cabra said:

No more dangerous to your health that smoking a hookah. All this selective outrage is comical

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But smoking a hookah is dangerous.

• Even after it has passed through water, the smoke from a hookah has high levels of these toxic agents.³
• Hookah tobacco and smoke contain several toxic agents known to cause lung, bladder, and oral cancers.^1,3
• Tobacco juices from hookahs irritate the mouth and increase the risk of developing oral cancers.^3,9
• ^{https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/tobacco_industry/hookahs/index.htm#:~:text=Even after it has passed,levels of these toxic agents.&text=Hookah tobacco and smoke contain,%2C bladder%2C and oral cancers.&text=Tobacco juices from hookahs irritate,risk of developing oral cancers.}

[Prosaap]

Maybe there believe is not that strong that they never use it i not use it but i dont care if somebody else will up to them once again proof of how tolerant this religion is why they not protest against the killing in the south  

[Smiler]

A certain religion protests about just about everything, they are intolerant of anything outside of their narrow view of life

[Poolie]

  On 6/15/2022 at 1:34 PM, Smiler said:

A certain religion protests about just about everything, they are intolerant of anything outside of their narrow view of life

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I know, they're just like expats moaning about everything hey?

[DiJoDavO]

What are they protesting? Protesting against nature from growing? 

[MrNovax]

  On 6/15/2022 at 10:49 AM, Marble-eye said:

But smoking a hookah is dangerous.

• Even after it has passed through water, the smoke from a hookah has high levels of these toxic agents.³
• Hookah tobacco and smoke contain several toxic agents known to cause lung, bladder, and oral cancers.^1,3
• Tobacco juices from hookahs irritate the mouth and increase the risk of developing oral cancers.^3,9
• ^{https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/tobacco_industry/hookahs/index.htm#:~:text=Even after it has passed,levels of these toxic agents.&text=Hookah tobacco and smoke contain,%2C bladder%2C and oral cancers.&text=Tobacco juices from hookahs irritate,risk of developing oral cancers.}

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I dont think anyone is stating that smoking a hookah doesnt have its medical ailments, the point is that the risks are the same so the protest is selective and therefore without merit.  If they were protesting all smoking then it would be consistent and therefore be taken more seriously by those with apposing views.  

[Marble-eye]

  On 6/15/2022 at 2:27 PM, MrNovax said:

I dont think anyone is stating that smoking a hookah doesnt have its medical ailments, the point is that the risks are the same so the protest is selective and therefore without merit.  If they were protesting all smoking then it would be consistent and therefore be taken more seriously by those with apposing views.  

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The poster I replied to stated just that and this thread is not about all smoking. 

I cannot be bothered anymore with arguing with people who defend smoking cannabis to the hilt, do what you like, I don't care, just don't expect me to agree with you. 

[astro]

  On 6/15/2022 at 1:18 PM, Prosaap said:

Maybe there believe is not that strong that they never use it i not use it but i dont care if somebody else will up to them once again proof of how tolerant this religion is why they not protest against the killing in the south  

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Is there a proposal to legalise the killing in the south that needs to be protested?

[Grumpish]

But not against the large scale production of opium and heroin by Muslims in Afghanistan? It is not just Muslims, but Christians and Hindus (increasingly these days) ) that insist that everyone else should live by their particular set of rules.

[astro]

  On 6/15/2022 at 2:27 PM, MrNovax said:

I dont think anyone is stating that smoking a hookah doesnt have its medical ailments, the point is that the risks are the same so the protest is selective and therefore without merit.  If they were protesting all smoking then it would be consistent and therefore be taken more seriously by those with apposing views.  

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Smoking cannabis will still be illegal under the new laws, it is not the students but one of our members here who brought smoking into it.

Think ganja tea, BBQ chicken cannabis etc.

[astro]

  On 6/15/2022 at 2:35 PM, Grumpish said:

But not against the large scale production of opium and heroin by Muslims in Afghanistan?

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Would a protest letter to Thai MPs have a chance to stop it?

[astro]

  On 6/15/2022 at 2:33 PM, Marble-eye said:

The poster I replied to stated just that and this thread is not about all smoking. 

I cannot be bothered anymore with arguing with people who defend smoking cannabis to the hilt, do what you like, I don't care, just don't expect me to agree with you. 

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This thread is not about any kind of smoking, looks like you missed the point again.

[riclag]

  On 6/15/2022 at 2:33 PM, Marble-eye said:

The poster I replied to stated just that and this thread is not about all smoking. 

I cannot be bothered anymore with arguing with people who defend smoking cannabis to the hilt, do what you like, I don't care, just don't expect me to agree with you. 

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I get what you mean about the drug!

[TheDirtyDurian]

  On 6/15/2022 at 2:35 PM, Grumpish said:

But not against the large scale production of opium and heroin by extremely poor people with no prospects in Afghanistan? It is not just Muslims, but Christians and Hindus (increasingly these days) ) that insist that everyone else should live by their particular set of rules.

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FTFY

[TheDirtyDurian]

Wife bought a couple of grams from the market earlier today. I'm all for it. 

[Zorba_the_Geek]

The religious busybodies can simply abstain. 

Either embrace the reality that change is constant, or go ahead with your own diminished, narrow, regimented and supremely fearful lives, and leave the rest of us alone!

[Shishi]

  On 6/15/2022 at 6:43 PM, TheDirtyDurian said:

Wife bought a couple of grams from the market earlier today. I'm all for it. 

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Same here :)

[kalyan]

welcome move by students.

[Cabra]

  On 6/15/2022 at 10:49 AM, Marble-eye said:

But smoking a hookah is dangerous.

• Even after it has passed through water, the smoke from a hookah has high levels of these toxic agents.³
• Hookah tobacco and smoke contain several toxic agents known to cause lung, bladder, and oral cancers.^1,3
• Tobacco juices from hookahs irritate the mouth and increase the risk of developing oral cancers.^3,9
• ^{https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/tobacco_industry/hookahs/index.htm#:~:text=Even after it has passed,levels of these toxic agents.&text=Hookah tobacco and smoke contain,%2C bladder%2C and oral cancers.&text=Tobacco juices from hookahs irritate,risk of developing oral cancers.}

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My point was these kids are being encouraged to protest ganja yet their parents/Muslim adult friends smoke hookah regularly, without their protest (I've share hookah with Muslims in the UAE and elsewhere). Both can do harm if abused, no doubt. I just find the selective outrage and hypocrisy of the groups protesting amusing. 

[Marble-eye]

  On 6/16/2022 at 3:11 AM, Cabra said:

My point was these kids are being encouraged to protest ganja yet their parents/Muslim adult friends smoke hookah regularly, without their protest (I've share hookah with Muslims in the UAE and elsewhere). Both can do harm if abused, no doubt. I just find the selective outrage and hypocrisy of the groups protesting amusing. 

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Fair point Cabra, but you didn't make that clear on your post I replied to I'm sure you'll agree.

"No more dangerous to your health that smoking a hookah. All this selective outrage is comical"

[Cabra]

  On 6/16/2022 at 3:34 AM, Marble-eye said:

Fair point Cabra, but you didn't make that clear on your post I replied to I'm sure you'll agree.

"No more dangerous to your health that smoking a hookah. All this selective outrage is comical"

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Agreed. My point was not clear, initially. That's on me. 

[TheDirtyDurian]

  On 6/16/2022 at 3:11 AM, Cabra said:

My point was these kids are being encouraged to protest ganja yet their parents/Muslim adult friends smoke hookah regularly, without their protest (I've share hookah with Muslims in the UAE and elsewhere). Both can do harm if abused, no doubt. I just find the selective outrage and hypocrisy of the groups protesting amusing. 

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You don't get high from smoking hookah though. That's the point isn't it. It's only tobacco in a hookah.

[Cabra]

  On 6/16/2022 at 4:41 AM, TheDirtyDurian said:

You don't get high from smoking hookah though. That's the point isn't it. It's only tobacco in a hookah.

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Sometimes. Shisha is certainly not weed. But it does part a punch if your are not use to it. Most of the Muslims I know use their hookah to smoke weed too. To each his own. If the kids want to protest. Fine. But maybe they should look around at what's actually happening around them and protest something that's really hurting their community.