News Forum - Ukraine’s Zelensky defies Russia’s ultimatum to lay down weapons

[oldschooler]

8 hours ago, Dmitrii said:

Oh, it is the greatest dream of all thugs: they rob and rape and murder people one by one and no one intervenes...

Bad news bastard, NATO has intervened, those days when Putin's thugs could commit their disgusting crimes without punishment are over. Thousands of corpses of these rapists and murderers rot in Ukrainian soil and more will rot if they do not get their filthy asses out of Ukraine quickly.

But those corpses had “rights”

[vlad]

12 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

it's good that we have military blocs - united and you no longer participate in the war, because there is a definition on the site on the Internet.

comfortable, beautiful, stylish.

Elvis is alive.

So is Russia at war with Ukraine Comrade or is it a military operation?.

[vlad]

Would Comrade KRLMRX like to explain this one away.

 

 

[KRLMRX]

5 hours ago, Smithydog said:

Can you at least have the courtesy to try and support your argument with some sort of evidence rather than rhetoric that seemingly has no relevance (or even an answer) to the points raised?

 

Nato states agree to supply heavy weapons to Ukraine

https://www.ft.com/content/1c0e6e15-c8fe-4a84-99dc-12b6836bf0f4

NATO certainly takes part in this war as the main supplier of weapons to Ukraine, trains the Ukrainian military, and provides Ukraine with intelligence.

[Fanta]

26 minutes ago, vlad said:

Would Comrade KRLMRX like to explain this one away.

Can you explain away the 55,969 police recorded rapes in England and Wales last year? You might find your explanation is the answer you seek. 
https://www.statista.com/statistics/283100/recorded-rape-offences-in-england-and-wales/ 

[KRLMRX]

33 minutes ago, vlad said:

Would Comrade KRLMRX like to explain this one away.

to find out the truth, you need to confirm the stories of witnesses by conducting forensic examinations. In a war, this is difficult to do. And there are thousands of similar stories on both sides, this is the sad result of any war.

[Marble-eye]

17 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

to find out the truth, you need to confirm the stories of witnesses by conducting forensic examinations. In a war, this is difficult to do. And there are thousands of similar stories on both sides, this is the sad result of any war.

The UK has already started a process to bring the perpetrators of these horrific crimes to justice.

 

[Smithydog]

52 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

Nato states agree to supply heavy weapons to Ukraine

https://www.ft.com/content/1c0e6e15-c8fe-4a84-99dc-12b6836bf0f4

NATO certainly takes part in this war as the main supplier of weapons to Ukraine, trains the Ukrainian military, and provides Ukraine with intelligence.

Thank you.

But I was looking for the supporting evidence to your statement that "Elvis is alive".

No-one argues that Ukraine is being supplied with weapons. They have to come from somewhere to defend against the illegal invasion.

But being a NATO conspiracy, or proxy war by NATO is very much in dispute and unsupported.

After all, it has been widely discussed that some NATO countries are buying natural gas and oil from Russia, thereby indirectly supporting their war efforts by funding the nation. By your reasoning this also make them part of the war on Russia's side by financing Putin's illegal invasion. After all, money to buy things is a powerful economic weapon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_in_the_European_energy_sector

[KRLMRX]

15 minutes ago, Smithydog said:

Thank you.

But I was looking for the supporting evidence to your statement that "Elvis is alive".

No-one argues that Ukraine is being supplied with weapons. They have to come from somewhere to defend against the illegal invasion.

But being a NATO conspiracy, or proxy war by NATO is very much in dispute and unsupported.

After all, it has been widely discussed that some NATO countries are buying natural gas and oil from Russia, thereby indirectly supporting their war efforts by funding the nation. By your reasoning this also make them part of the war on Russia's side by financing Putin's illegal invasion. After all, money to buy things is a powerful economic weapon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_in_the_European_energy_sector

European countries report that they are struggling to get rid of Russian energy resources, but so far they cannot.

But yes, the level of mutual hypocrisy of the parties participating in this war is at a historical maximum.

Therefore, when some speakers try to shame, for example, Thailand for not declaring war on Russian tourists, it looks ridiculous and pathetic.

[Fester]

1 hour ago, KRLMRX said:

Nato states agree to supply heavy weapons to Ukraine

https://www.ft.com/content/1c0e6e15-c8fe-4a84-99dc-12b6836bf0f4

NATO certainly takes part in this war as the main supplier of weapons to Ukraine, trains the Ukrainian military, and provides Ukraine with intelligence.

Merely a continuation of pre-existing arrangements, of which Russia would have been aware, I'm sure. No good them complaining about it now.

[Fester]

27 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

European countries report that they are struggling to get rid of Russian energy resources, but so far they cannot.

But yes, the level of mutual hypocrisy of the parties participating in this war is at a historical maximum.

Therefore, when some speakers try to shame, for example, Thailand for not declaring war on Russian tourists, it looks ridiculous and pathetic.

Well, you should know.

[Fester]

1 hour ago, KRLMRX said:

to find out the truth, you need to confirm the stories of witnesses by conducting forensic examinations. In a war, this is difficult to do. And there are thousands of similar stories on both sides, this is the sad result of any war.

Rubbish. These thousands of stories mainly show one side up to be criminals.

[Fester]

1 hour ago, Fanta said:

Can you explain away the 55,969 police recorded rapes in England and Wales last year? You might find your explanation is the answer you seek. 
https://www.statista.com/statistics/283100/recorded-rape-offences-in-england-and-wales/ 

Another Haw Haw diversion.

[Fester]

16 hours ago, Benroon said:

Nope - politicians are paid to make decisions, not hide behind referendums else what's the point of them ? it's a sad indictment of the education system that the nations IQ level isn't too high so referendums are highly dangerous - less than 0.000000001% of people who voted for Brexit would have had the first clue of the economic damage it would do to the UK and were just too dense too see it was a vanity project for the current even more damaging Boris Johnson. All the proof is there right now.

If that wasn't enough, if a referendum was held on legalised murder, ie capital punishment, I'm quite sure it would get voted through by The Sun readers, but only a retard, in my opinion, would vote for it. (yet we lambast the Saudi's) 

What is sad is that, 6 years on, remainers can't get over a democratic referendum result, which reversed a previous decision, made via the same method, to stay in the EEC in 1975. Proof of what? That the UK has been fleeced of cash and industrial capacity through 45 out of 46 years being in the EU? 

Why don't you keep your lousy insults and inane allegations for Putin and revert to topic?

[vlad]

1 hour ago, KRLMRX said:

to find out the truth, you need to confirm the stories of witnesses by conducting forensic examinations. In a war, this is difficult to do. And there are thousands of similar stories on both sides, this is the sad result of any war.

Rapists and thieves.

[vlad]

Nice one Fester. Yes give them hard evidence even name the rapist and watch them on here run away to think how they can get away and deflect the answer. Whataboutism, yes but what about rapes in England crap. This is about Russian soldiers shooting men then raping their wives in front of their kids then the bastards are looting their property. You members on here who do not see this you have no right to post on this thread to defend this scum. As for KRMLRX i asked him if Russia was at war with Ukraine or as Putin says its a Military operation as usual he ignored the question like all his posts just a Troll.

[Fanta]

14 minutes ago, vlad said:

As for KRMLRX i asked him if Russia was at war with Ukraine or as Putin says its a Military operation as usual he ignored the question like all his posts just a Troll.

Most of your questions and statements are ignored because you don’t bother to do any basic research before posting them. Calling the invasion an undeclared war or a special operation makes absolutely no difference except politically. It is an international conflict as defined by the Geneva Conventions. Your question has been asked and answered before in these Russia Ukraine threads. 

[EdwardV]

4 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

NATO certainly takes part in this war as the main supplier of weapons to Ukraine, trains the Ukrainian military, and provides Ukraine with intelligence.

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

[Rookiescot]

4 hours ago, Fanta said:

Can you explain away the 55,969 police recorded rapes in England and Wales last year? You might find your explanation is the answer you seek. 
https://www.statista.com/statistics/283100/recorded-rape-offences-in-england-and-wales/ 

Whataboutery.

[Rookiescot]

4 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

to find out the truth, you need to confirm the stories of witnesses by conducting forensic examinations. In a war, this is difficult to do. And there are thousands of similar stories on both sides, this is the sad result of any war.

Please provide evidence of mass rape and executions taking place on the Ukrainian side.

[Rookiescot]

1 hour ago, Fanta said:

Most of your questions and statements are ignored because you don’t bother to do any basic research before posting them. Calling the invasion an undeclared war or a special operation makes absolutely no difference except politically. It is an international conflict as defined by the Geneva Conventions. Your question has been asked and answered before in these Russia Ukraine threads. 

But do you, personally, consider it a war or a special military operation?

[Fester]

10 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

But do you, personally, consider it a war or a special military operation?

Good luck with that one.

[Rookiescot]

Just now, Fester said:

Good luck with that one.

He will come back dancing on the head of a pin over the definition of a "war".

Nothing surer. 

[Fanta]

14 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

But do you, personally, consider it a war or a special military operation?

An undeclared war best called a conflict. A war requires a declaration of war by at least one of the parties in either verbal or written form. Selling a war to the public requires a lot more ground work beforehand than selling a special military operation. 

[Rookiescot]

3 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

He will come back dancing on the head of a pin over the definition of a "war".

Nothing surer. 

 

2 minutes ago, Fanta said:

An undeclared war aka conflict. A war requires a declaration of war by at least one of the parties in either verbal or written form. Selling a war to the public requires a lot more ground work beforehand than selling a special military operation. 

Ah good times.