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[Alavan]

1 hour ago, KRLMRX said:

I don't make excuses. I point out that Putin had his reasons, because some here write that he is just a psycho, loves to kill children and therefore invaded.

Of course, Russia is behaving badly, but in Russia there are no annual processions under Nazi symbols and with calls to kill Ukrainians.

Learn to perceive history as a chain of causes and consequences.

Ukraine has a minority of less than 2% that are extreme right nationalists, what you call neo nazi’s. That regiment or whatever you call it, has a few hundred soldiers, in any case less than 2000.

Can you confirm that Russia has no extreme right nationalists and so called neo-nazi’s?

I know we have some in Western Europe. Their leaders from Fance (Le Pen), Italy and other countries were proud to be on the foto with Putin till just a fortnight ago

[Thaidup]

OH,I just wish we could go back to some peace deals like we had before this buffoon got in the Whitehouse,

Fair dinkum, we went from cheap fuel, a vaccine (for those who want it) and Abraham Accords to Afghanistan debarcle, Mandate protests, record inflation, highest oil price since memory, and Russia Russia Russia again.

But remember. the Vice President of the USA has been sent over. “So, Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So, basically, that’s wrong, and it goes against everything that we stand for." 

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/kamala-harris-trolled-online-explanation-ukraine-russia-war-1919922-2022-03-02

 

 

Edited March 13, 2022 by Thaidup

[Convert54]

16 minutes ago, Thaidup said:

OH,I just wish we could go back to some peace deals like we had before this buffoon got in the Whitehouse,

Fair dinkum, we went from cheap fuel, a vaccine (for those who want it) and Abraham Accords to Afghanistan debarcle, Mandate protests, record inflation, highest oil price since memory, and Russia Russia Russia again.

But remember. the Vice President of the USA has been sent over. “So, Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So, basically, that’s wrong, and it goes against everything that we stand for." 

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/kamala-harris-trolled-online-explanation-ukraine-russia-war-1919922-2022-03-02

Kamala Harris has to given some slack ...she was being interviewed by  radio host "HeadKrack" !

[KRLMRX]

3 hours ago, oldschooler said:

No protection these days.US/ UK govt computers can unravel all that in days

then soon we will see the poor Abramovich, Deripaska, Sechin and Miller.  We wait

[KRLMRX]

2 hours ago, Alavan said:

Ukraine has a minority of less than 2% that are extreme right nationalists, what you call neo nazi’s. That regiment or whatever you call it, has a few hundred soldiers, in any case less than 2000.

Can you confirm that Russia has no extreme right nationalists and so called neo-nazi’s?

I know we have some in Western Europe. Their leaders from Fance (Le Pen), Italy and other countries were proud to be on the foto with Putin till just a fortnight ago

it's good that you counted.

but in Russia they see that not one of the 3 million inhabitants of Kyiv protests against calls to kill Russians. Perhaps because when in 2014 they began to protest in the Donbass on this issue, the Ukrainian army simply bombarded them with rockets and bombs.

The Azov battalion has the official coat of arms "Wolf Hook" (used by the Waffen SS in the Third Reich), is part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, that is, a state structure.

There is no such thing in Russia (yet), official neo-Nazism is condemned and you will not see torchlight processions there with mm to reduce Russians.

[Convert54]

24 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

it's good that you counted.

but in Russia they see that not one of the 3 million inhabitants of Kyiv protests against calls to kill Russians. Perhaps because when in 2014 they began to protest in the Donbass on this issue, the Ukrainian army simply bombarded them with rockets and bombs.

The Azov battalion has the official coat of arms "Wolf Hook" (used by the Waffen SS in the Third Reich), is part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, that is, a state structure.

There is no such thing in Russia (yet), official neo-Nazism is condemned and you will not see torchlight processions there with mm to reduce Russians.

In fairness to question put by Alavan could you declare there is no equivalent in Russia even of a different "flavor" than neo Nazi ? Nameless or underground or otherwise?

[Alavan]

33 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

it's good that you counted.

but in Russia they see that not one of the 3 million inhabitants of Kyiv protests against calls to kill Russians. Perhaps because when in 2014 they began to protest in the Donbass on this issue, the Ukrainian army simply bombarded them with rockets and bombs.

The Azov battalion has the official coat of arms "Wolf Hook" (used by the Waffen SS in the Third Reich), is part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, that is, a state structure.

There is no such thing in Russia (yet), official neo-Nazism is condemned and you will not see torchlight processions there with mm to reduce Russians.

How about Zirinovsky?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_National_Unity 

How about Russian National Unity?

[Rookiescot]

Russia has produced a list of countries which it says have been nasty to it since its illegal invasion of the Ukraine.

On that list, listed as a country, is Taiwan.

Emperor Xi is going to be very cross with Czar Putin. 

[Rookiescot]

2 hours ago, Thaidup said:

OH,I just wish we could go back to some peace deals like we had before this buffoon got in the Whitehouse,

Fair dinkum, we went from cheap fuel, a vaccine (for those who want it) and Abraham Accords to Afghanistan debarcle, Mandate protests, record inflation, highest oil price since memory, and Russia Russia Russia again.

But remember. the Vice President of the USA has been sent over. “So, Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So, basically, that’s wrong, and it goes against everything that we stand for." 

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/kamala-harris-trolled-online-explanation-ukraine-russia-war-1919922-2022-03-02

She probably knew the audience were right wing Trump supporters and was trying to talk to them on a level they will understand.

[Rookiescot]

1 hour ago, KRLMRX said:

then soon we will see the poor Abramovich, Deripaska, Sechin and Miller.  We wait

Does Abramovich still own Chelsea? And where is his boat right now? Sailing somewhere with its transponder switched off. Its OK. He can get that to Murmansk or somewhere else safe but there will be no more little cruises around the Mediterranean sea for some time. His houses around Europe are also up for grabs. 

Its all going wrong isn't it Mr Marx.

[KRLMRX]

7 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Plenty of videos demonstrating a similar problem in Russia itself.

in Russia they were still marginalized. This is not a government position. this is still the difference with Ukraine. 

And their hatred is directed at migrants from the southern regions, as well as in Europe and North America. Ukrainians are not their target.

By the way, a few years ago, Navalny (the current liberal) was the main speaker of the nationalists in Russia, but you will hardly find information about this in the English-language media, because this is not the mainstream.

But recently, Putin has been increasingly speaking the slogans of these outcasts, as well as many other leaders.

[Convert54]

17 minutes ago, Alavan said:

How about Zirinovsky?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_National_Unity 

How about Russian National Unity?

Neo Fascist coupled with Orthodox religious ..... yes..... a different flavor  but disruptive  in all directions. Perhaps  along the lines of the KKK ? The differentiation being that the KKK distracts  from the  evangelical mega industry that flourishes in the H . Simpson majority of the US.

The Azov Battalion was similarly directed towards a target of unresolved irritation. Two birds, one stone solution?  No.  It resulted in a gang war scenario where neither side actually wanted to win while the task was being supplied for continuance. And while at that level of combat who where made any significant objection ?

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, KRLMRX said:

in Russia they were still marginalized. This is not a government position. this is still the difference with Ukraine. 

And their hatred is directed at migrants from the southern regions, as well as in Europe and North America. Ukrainians are not their target.

By the way, a few years ago, Navalny (the current liberal) was the main speaker of the nationalists in Russia, but you will hardly find information about this in the English-language media, because this is not the mainstream.

But recently, Putin has been increasingly speaking the slogans of these outcasts, as well as many other leaders.

Yes. The Ukraine is such a hotbed of rabid neo-Nazis' they actually voted for two Jewish guys to become the President and Prime Minister. 

[Convert54]

17 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Russia has produced a list of countries which it says have been nasty to it since its illegal invasion of the Ukraine.

On that list, listed as a country, is Taiwan.

Emperor Xi is going to be very cross with Czar Putin. 

lol. Why?  Taiwan has strayed  from autonomous inclusion as has the Ukraine.  I can envisage Xi secretly  endorsing Putin's objective although perhaps critical of effective tactics in attempt.

 

 

[KRLMRX]

2 hours ago, Thaidup said:

Fair dinkum, we went from cheap fuel, a vaccine (for those who want it) and Abraham Accords to Afghanistan debarcle, Mandate protests, record inflation, highest oil price since memory, and Russia Russia Russia again

and now the pandemic, its millions of victims, the economic downturn and its consequences are no longer so interesting.  how convenient.

[Convert54]

8 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Yes. The Ukraine is such a hotbed of rabid neo-Nazis' they actually voted for two Jewish guys to become the President and Prime Minister. 

I bet you think the Pope is a practicing  Catolic ! Practicing or  practising ?  Oi  vay !

[Rookiescot]

2 minutes ago, Convert54 said:

lol. Why?  Taiwan has strayed  from autonomous inclusion as has the Ukraine.  I can envisage Xi secretly  endorsing Putin's objective although perhaps critical of effective tactics in attempt.

The UK used to have an empire that covered half the world. Is it OK for the UK to go invade those countries?

When the Soviet Union collapsed many countries were given independence. Are you saying that they all belong to Russia?

Mongolia used to own huge parts of Russia. So really you guys should be handing the keys of Moscow over to them. 

[Fester]

2 hours ago, Thaidup said:

OH,I just wish we could go back to some peace deals like we had before this buffoon got in the Whitehouse,

Fair dinkum, we went from cheap fuel, a vaccine (for those who want it) and Abraham Accords to Afghanistan debarcle, Mandate protests, record inflation, highest oil price since memory, and Russia Russia Russia again.

But remember. the Vice President of the USA has been sent over. “So, Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So, basically, that’s wrong, and it goes against everything that we stand for." 

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/kamala-harris-trolled-online-explanation-ukraine-russia-war-1919922-2022-03-02

The Laughing Hyena. What a joke.

[KRLMRX]

52 minutes ago, Convert54 said:

In fairness to question put by Alavan could you declare there is no equivalent in Russia even of a different "flavor" than neo Nazi ? Nameless or underground or otherwise?

of course have. and the stronger the economic crisis, the louder their voices sound. but there is no specific neo-Nazi theme in the information space of Russia, you will not see Nazi symbols on official flags, and marches calling for murders on a national basis, this is the lot of street marginals.

[Fester]

16 minutes ago, Convert54 said:

lol. Why?  Taiwan has strayed  from autonomous inclusion as has the Ukraine.  I can envisage Xi secretly  endorsing Putin's objective although perhaps critical of effective tactics in attempt.

Strayed  from autonomous inclusion! Amazing cloddishness. 

[oldschooler]

25 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

in Russia they were still marginalized. This is not a government position. this is still the difference with Ukraine. 

And their hatred is directed at migrants from the southern regions, as well as in Europe and North America. Ukrainians are not their target.

By the way, a few years ago, Navalny (the current liberal) was the main speaker of the nationalists in Russia, but you will hardly find information about this in the English-language media, because this is not the mainstream.

But recently, Putin has been increasingly speaking the slogans of these outcasts, as well as many other leaders.

Putin using Nationalism like Hitler. Cease your simpleton chatter about tiny neo Nazi groups  when Putin is clearly the biggest Fascist Nationalist or Nazi, around!!  

[Convert54]

3 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

The UK used to have an empire that covered half the world. Is it OK for the UK to go invade those countries?

When the Soviet Union collapsed many countries were given independence. Are you saying that they all belong to Russia?

Mongolia used to own huge parts of Russia. So really you guys should be handing the keys of Moscow over to them. 

You guys ?  I have  a key to something?  Grand assumptions  !lmfao !

[Convert54]

3 minutes ago, Fester said:

Strayed  from autonomous inclusion! Amazing cloddishness. 

Cloddish to presume that I endorse  !

[Rookiescot]

Its all going wrong. Several thousand Russian soldiers dead and even more wounded. An economy in freefall. A currency not worth the paper its written on. Inflation at 30%. Czar Putin and his chums having their assets seized. Russian army regiments becoming combat ineffective due to loses and lack of supply. Moral is non existent. 

The west supplying more and more anti tank and aircraft missiles which is ripping apart Russian units. Almost the entire world rooting for the Ukraine to win.

Russia-Ukraine war in numbers: casualties, refugees and aid | Ukraine | The Guardian

[Convert54]

9 minutes ago, Fester said:

Strayed  from autonomous inclusion! Amazing cloddishness. 

Putin  and Xi  would  agree  with you !