News Forum - Health ministry to outline 3 best and worst-case scenarios as more infections reported

[Thaiger]

Following the discovery of more cases of the Omicron Covid-19 variant, the Public Health Ministry says it will outline worst-case scenarios in a statement expected tomorrow. On Sunday, 2 probable Omicron infections were reported in Chiang Mai, with 1 infection in the north-eastern province of Loei and another in the southern province of Songkhla. The Bangkok Post reports that the highly-contagious variant has now been detected in over 10 provinces, including Nonthaburi, Pathum Thani, Bangkok, Prachuap, Phuket, and Krabi. The Health Ministry says it will publish 3 best and worst-case scenarios tomorrow in order to help the country prepare for […]

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[Lawyers_Guns_and_Money]

It is starting to look like that if you test negative on arrival you are actually positive. And that if you are positive, you will test negative a few days later. Is it possible that they are reading the results incorrectly?

[Stonker]

36 minutes ago, Lawyers_Guns_and_Money said:

It is starting to look like that if you test negative on arrival you are actually positive. And that if you are positive, you will test negative a few days later. Is it possible that they are reading the results incorrectly?

Alternatively, and possibly rather more likely, it's starting to look as if they're still using the old stock of PCR tests and haven't shelved those that don't detect the Omicron variant.

[AlexPTY]

While our ministers are busy pissing their pants, let's see the charts... Sorry, but looks to me that more people died from diarrhea in past month than from Omicron variant and Delta. I am not saying we are safe now, just stop panicking FFC...

[Poolie]

6 minutes ago, AlexPTY said:

more people died from diarrhea in past month than from Omicron variant and Delta.

It's the naam pla, very dangerous.

[Chatogaster]

6 hours ago, Lawyers_Guns_and_Money said:

It is starting to look like that if you test negative on arrival you are actually positive. And that if you are positive, you will test negative a few days later. Is it possible that they are reading the results incorrectly?

 

That's just journalism at work. 

• A headline like "Negative case turns out to be negative!!" doesn't sell (same for positive), and understandably so.
• Positive cases that transformed into negative cases within a week aren't exactly newsworthy either, unless it's part of a greater story (obviously it must already have happened to numerous people that were put into fixed-duration quarantines).
• Negative cases that transformed into positive cases are only newsworthy now because of the link to sth new, i.e. Omicron. Additionally, the probability that such an event happens is on the rise (an incoming traveler only needs to get infected 0-2 days before arrival).

The moral: never forget that all news is biased, highly skewed and often forged from commercial or political motives. If you find something interesting, don't form an opinion until you've independently looked deeper.

 

[Rain]

7 hours ago, Lawyers_Guns_and_Money said:

It is starting to look like that if you test negative on arrival you are actually positive. And that if you are positive, you will test negative a few days later. Is it possible that they are reading the results incorrectly?

Might be a better possible that the testing kits inaccurate and unworthy [for some time now] - yet, it's what we have, so we continue to you 'em.

Sensible. 

[Chatogaster]

1 hour ago, daftdude said:

News outlets must stop with the insane claim of 53% of people spreading Covid asymptomatically. It is biologically impossible to do so.

If your immune system kills a pathogen before the infection takes root, THE PATHOGEN IS DEAD.

You can not infect another person with a dead pathogen. The U.S. CDC only claims there is asymptomatic spread to explain the massive amounts of positive tests. Instead of the blatantly obvious, THE TEST IS EFFING WORTHLESS.

Extrapolating from that fallacy ("asymptomatic" implies "pathogen is dead & spreading is impossible"), I'm now thinking you'd probably be completely unconcerned when sleeping with an asymptomatic, HIV-positive person of the gender of your choice.
 

[Rain]

2 hours ago, daftdude said:

News outlets must stop with the insane claim of 53% of people spreading Covid asymptomatically. It is biologically impossible to do so.

If your immune system kills a pathogen before the infection takes root, THE PATHOGEN IS DEAD.

You can not infect another person with a dead pathogen. The U.S. CDC only claims there is asymptomatic spread to explain the massive amounts of positive tests. Instead of the blatantly obvious, THE TEST IS EFFING WORTHLESS.

Modified or dormant - but not dead. 

Should be clear by now, that science is still unsure and waffling.

[Poolie]

31 minutes ago, Rain said:

Modified or dormant - but not dead. 

Should be clear by now, that science is still unsure and waffling.

But..but...(head explodes)   ... it's SCIENCE!

[DiJoDavO]

2 hours ago, daftdude said:

News outlets must stop with the insane claim of 53% of people spreading Covid asymptomatically. It is biologically impossible to do so.

If your immune system kills a pathogen before the infection takes root, THE PATHOGEN IS DEAD.

You can not infect another person with a dead pathogen. The U.S. CDC only claims there is asymptomatic spread to explain the massive amounts of positive tests. Instead of the blatantly obvious, THE TEST IS EFFING WORTHLESS.

Shhh.... That was their key to scaring the sht out of people. You are not supposed to say that people who are asymptomatic is bs news. 

Their tactics were genious tho. 

- Say that people who got infected might have symptoms much later. 

- Say that during this period people can infect each other. 

- Say that there are asymptomatic people who can spread it. 

- Develop tests which works like Russian roulette. One is positive, followed by one which is negative. 

Next step: Watch the world burn. 

[Rain]

26 minutes ago, Poolie said:

But..but...(head explodes)   ... it's SCIENCE!

Of course. Science and it's political discourse.

The all knowing.

The all fooling. 

[Rain]

15 minutes ago, DiJoDavO said:

Shhh.... That was their key to scaring the sht out of people. You are not supposed to say that people who are asymptomatic is bs news. 

Their tactics were genious tho. 

- Say that people who got infected might have symptoms much later. 

- Say that during this period people can infect each other. 

- Say that there are asymptomatic people who can spread it. 

- Develop tests which works like Russian roulette. One is positive, followed by one which is negative. 

Next step: Watch the world burn. 

Yeah. Part and parcel to the game. 

[Paco]

Should not have opened the borders, as most of the Thai people are against it. Fact is opened the borders because chooses money over life... did it help? No now again 10 steps behind back in more shit, when do they start to understand this simple logic... more problems  and did this opening helped? No it did not solve anything  it made things worse AGAIN and is going to cost a lot more then keeping the doors closed.. plain fact