Do the Unvaccinated with Positive Test Results Still still need to be vaccinated?

[kellio48]

It is of my understanding that once having caught the corona virus and recovered, that the natural antibodies created will protect against a recurrence of the virus and that protection will be up to 8 times stronger than protection  derived from vaccines.
That being the case, my question is : Are people who have recovered naturally, still required to be vaccinated before being able to enter public places in Thailand which otherwise are off limits to the unvaccinated and if so, how can a recovered person provide proof of recovery?
 

[Zub-Way]

Was it not in the TP application you could also upload a proof of recovery from covid19?

[ninja]

1 hour ago, kellio48 said:

It is of my understanding that once having caught the corona virus and recovered, that the natural antibodies created will protect against a recurrence of the virus and that protection will be up to 8 times stronger than protection  derived from vaccines.

that is my understanding as well !   i have read experts (on 'alternate sites, as main street news like Reuters and Yahoo will censor the experts who say that natural antibodies are way better than those from rna vaccines). (also printing damning articles paid for by the opposition)

stick to your beliefs.  you will be attacked by many,  for not going  along with MSN (mainstreet narrative).

get ready......

[kellio48]

1 hour ago, Zub-Way said:

Was it not in the TP application you could also upload a proof of recovery from covid19?

I have never applied for a TP because I'm already in Thailand but how do I go about providing proof of recovery.
Where do I get it?

[kellio48]

1 hour ago, ninja said:

that is my understanding as well !   i have read experts (on 'alternate sites, as main street news like Reuters and Yahoo will censor the experts who say that natural antibodies are way better than those from rna vaccines). (also printing damning articles paid for by the opposition)

stick to your beliefs.  you will be attacked by many,  for not going  along with MSN (mainstreet narrative).

get ready......

I've already been slammed numerous times in other groups forums so I'm well used to it but all I'm looking for here are answers to my questions and not condemnations or debate as to my beliefs. 

 

[AussieBob]

Proof of Vaccine Certificate (minimum 14 days)  OR Proof of Negative PCR Test less than 72 hours.

 

 

[ninja]

52 minutes ago, kellio48 said:

I've already been slammed numerous times in other groups forums so I'm well used to it but all I'm looking for here are answers to my questions and not condemnations or debate as to my beliefs. 

i will try to get an answer ,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Zub-Way]

1 hour ago, kellio48 said:

I have never applied for a TP because I'm already in Thailand but how do I go about providing proof of recovery.
Where do I get it?

Test center and do a Serological test it is a test to look for antibodies against Covid and at least in Europe you get a QR code and is valid for 12 months

[ninja]

3 hours ago, kellio48 said:

I've already been slammed numerous times in other groups forums so I'm well used to it but all I'm looking for here are answers to my questions and not condemnations or debate as to my beliefs. 

i asked your question on another thread and Kaptain Rob,  a moderator, gave this answer:

 

" Are people who have recovered naturally, still required to be vaccinated before being able to enter public places in Thailand which otherwise are off limits to the unvaccinated and if so, how can a recovered person provide proof of recovery?''

I cannot provide a definitive and legally correct answer to that and I'm not sure anyone can.  However, I imagine the answer might be:-

A./ Yes, vaccination required - it's the easy way out for Govt.  Unless ....

B./ You go to the expense of obtaining medical certification from a Private Hospital - that would be predicated on and subject to Govt. approved criteria. I can't see that happening.

 

[kellio48]

4 minutes ago, ninja said:

i asked your question on another thread and Kaptain Rob,  a moderator, gave this answer:

" Are people who have recovered naturally, still required to be vaccinated before being able to enter public places in Thailand which otherwise are off limits to the unvaccinated and if so, how can a recovered person provide proof of recovery?''

I cannot provide a definitive and legally correct answer to that and I'm not sure anyone can.  However, I imagine the answer might be:-

A./ Yes, vaccination required - it's the easy way out for Govt.  Unless ....

B./ You go to the expense of obtaining medical certification from a Private Hospital - that would be predicated on and subject to Govt. approved criteria. I can't see that happening.

Thanks. That's the best reply so far but the fact remains that if one has already recovered from covid, and built up natural antibodies, surely there is no reason for a synthetic spike protein  to be introduced in order to spike the creation of more antibodies which are likely to be less effective that the natural ones already created and may very well have one of the adverse reactions already published.
I think further research into this is needed but it's most likely the Thai government will probably take the easy way out and insist on everyone being jabbed regardless of other criteria because they simply don't have the answers. 

[ninja]

35 minutes ago, kellio48 said:

Thanks. That's the best reply so far but the fact remains that if one has already recovered from covid, and built up natural antibodies, surely there is no reason for a synthetic spike protein  to be introduced in order to spike the creation of more antibodies which are likely to be less effective that the natural ones already created and may very well have one of the adverse reactions already published.
I think further research into this is needed but it's most likely the Thai government will probably take the easy way out and insist on everyone being jabbed regardless of other criteria because they simply don't have the answers. 

i believe most, if not ALL governments are taking the same actions.  forced vaccinations (or can not go anywhere,  can not work,  etc)

 

[JamesE]

Yes, you will have to get vaccinated to enter places requiring vaccination or show proof of no infection - like an ATK test at the door. A medical proof of recovery document not more than 90 days old is allowed for entry into the country but once inside you either get the shots or stock up on test kits. The Thaiger had an article about this last week: https://thethaiger.com/news/national/more-venues-in-thailand-require-proof-of-vaccination-or-atk-test-at-the-door. Vaccines are - regardless of one's personal view - the easy way into the new normal - just a QR code on your phone. Tests are to allow those who can't or won't get vaccinated to participate.

Edited December 5, 2021 by JamesE
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so what is the answer? 

[ninja]

12 hours ago, JamesE said:

Vaccines are - regardless of one's personal view - the easy way into the new normal

Many times in history the easy way turned into the "sorry i did it that way" .     It is never easy to go against the norm ( though if not forced to vax I believe a much greater number would not) .    

I do not want to get into a debate here as the other forums have that already.   Just want to make the point that easy is not always better in the long run.     For sure,  it is a tough choice now with the "mandates" being laid down.