News Forum - Transport Ministry says Thai land bridge will become transit port to rival Hong Kong

[Thaiger]

The transport minister is feeling optimistic about a new land bridge development which will connect the southern provinces of Ranong and Chumphon. The Bangkok Post reports that the project will link Chumphon, on the eastern coast of the Gulf of Thailand, to Ranong, on the Andaman Sea. Transport Minister Saksayam Chidchob says the result will be a transit port with a capacity to rival Hong Kong. The minister says the land bridge will be able to handle around 20 million twenty-foot equivalent units of cargo annually, and will allow maritime traffic to bypass the busy waters around Singapore. The capacity […]

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[GuyIncognito]

I'm sure they were talking about reducing ecological impacts and hitting climate targets, or was that just more blah, blah, blah?

[Guest1]

That is the second or third landbridge proposal. So the last one, from Surat to Krabi is done, then?

Just wondering, how much kickback is happen for all the feasibility studies.

And the infrastructure changes, around the projects, which are not happening at all.

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[Cathat]

More pie in the sky kra canal type scheme's.

The time saving is minimal,it's not like their cutting sailing round a continent out.

[Stardust]

He means like the U tapao hub, sombody counted all his hubs?

[Freddie]

The Thai Govt does it again ? Seriously a Land Bridge from Chumpon to Ranong?

Who in the Govt dreams up these ridiculous schemes as they simply have no idea or concept how shipping and marine logistics operate globally. The shipping lines work on an east to west and west to east vessel rotation and the Thai Govt are going to challenge that route planning.

in your dreams - Thailand !!

We are still waiting for the Southern Land Bridge you planned and of course the KRA Canal with its off and on will it or won’t it work?

And in the meantime Malaysia who invested $400 Billion into the Iskandar Project will permit Thailand to do that. Don’t think so.

And this place called Singapore - the busiest Port in the World with over 1000 vessels at anchor will pose no competition.

I didn’t realise that Disneyland was a Thai Ministry Department next to the Ministry of Rainbows.

Give us all a break and get real. After all Thailand totally screwed up the opportunity to create a second revenue stream when it’s Tourism Industry collapsed - not once or even twice.. 

[Smithydog]

The part that seriously worries is something @Freddie said above "1000 vessels at anchor".

The bridge is proposed to cut down on transport time and hence costs in the supply chain. If the bridge was to work perfectly, will the demand outstrip the capabilities and just duplicate what happens in Singapore, but now not at just one port, but one at each end of the bridge?

This could cause huge delays in the shipping in the Supply Chain and not something that is easily overcome. Delays mean money costs. How long will containers sit in massive port areas for a ship to come in? How much real saving is there for a ship owner or supplier as that will be the governing factor in its use or lack of use?

After all, if being transported via a land bridge ship to ship, the cargo is obviously not destined for Thailand itself.

[Pinetree]

As it stops well short of Singapore, that ambition is highly unlikely. Shipping containers are by far the quickest and cheapest mode of freight transport. 

[Fester]

  On 11/26/2021 at 2:13 AM, Stardust said:

He means like the U tapao hub, sombody counted all his hubs?

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A lot of hubhub. They might build something with similar capacity to HK but they can't replicate the geographical location. Dreamers all.

[Guest1]

  On 11/26/2021 at 1:49 AM, Cathat said:

More pie in the sky kra canal type scheme's.

The time saving is minimal,it's not like their cutting sailing round a continent out.

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Oh, the time saving is enough, that the British once applied the sultanat of Patani into 3 provinces to Thailand, 2 to Malaysia.

Because there would have been a chance to make a "Panama canal"

Good, that was before the monster containerships 

But they can't enter the Golf anyway. Singapore is for many products to the Golf area a transit haven, onto smaller ships.

Which could be done either on this side (andaman), or done after a landbridge (that's why the 44 has this massive space between the two directions) by railway, on the other side

[Stardust]

  On 11/26/2021 at 6:36 AM, Guest1 said:

Oh, the time saving is enough, that the British once applied the sultanat of Patani into 3 provinces to Thailand, 2 to Malaysia.

Because there would have been a chance to make a "Panama canal"

Good, that was before the monster containerships 

But they can't enter the Golf anyway. Singapore is for many products to the Golf area a transit haven, onto smaller ships.

Which could be done either on this side (andaman), or done after a landbridge (that's why the 44 has this massive space between the two directions) by railway, on the other side

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We are talking about Thailand and the many promised hubs before, the competence and skills of the one in charge. Why do you think u tapao and all the other hubs were a failure?! And to compare them with Singapore with a level infrastructere, skilled and competent people, a high level education system, etc. is far beyond

[vvdb.fr]

transhipment is a break in load. you also need two ships, one on each side.

Allowing ships to pass with the same gauge as Suez is the only solution.

Egypt has not succeeded in developing one of the two sides of its canal, it is the same for that of Panama.

[Stonker]

A 'land bridge' ?

You mean a road?

Joining two ports that barely exist?

[HiuMak]

  On 11/26/2021 at 4:41 AM, Freddie said:

I didn’t realise that Disneyland was a Thai Ministry Department next to the Ministry of Rainbows.

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Mickey is running the show

[Tanuki]

Making a wide road is easy for the Thais..(but it will crumble before it's even completed)  How can a road be the economic option when each container has to be unloaded/reloaded, the route is not flat, so I can imagine all the belching smoke out of those old trucks day & night.. A road is the Gov's quickest option to make money..simple as.

[aladdin]

How many people, families and businesses will be displaced by eminent domain, i.e. taken over by a government or agency which gets the contract to build. Compensation might be fair, Where would people go? Unintended consequences: Separate the South from the North, physically, socially and emotionally...Separatists would love this.

Eminent domain is the power of a government, or entity to legally take private property for public use, following the payment of just compensation. This is a practice that occurs in many different countries under different names. It may not seem fair to the owners of the property, and eminent domain cases, especially when the owner feels they are not justly compensated, or simply don't want to move.  If people are displaced and the "project" never materializes, then what becomes on the property thus confiscated?

If I am a huge container carrier ship owner, would I want to off load thousands of containers to trucks, drive for a day , then off load from trucks to another ship; talk about access nightmare.