News Forum - Too many wires: Prayut says he wants communication cables underground

[Thaiger]

Wires throughout Thailand’s urban areas, haphazardly bunched and looped on posts, look like an electrician’s nightmare. Now, according to Thai media, PM Prayut Chan-o-cha says he wants that to change and is proposing that the National Telecommunications Commission work with relevant agencies to get communication lines underground. Thai media points out that during actor Russell Crowe’s highly publicised trip to Thailand to film “Greatest Beer Run Ever” he made a post on Twitter that sparked critical comments from netizens over Thailand’s chaotic wiring. Crowe had made so many positive Tweets during his trip that he was dubbed by Thai media […]

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[gummy]

Well they should not only be considering burying cable but I would nominate him also in order to return happiness to the people 

[Bluesofa]

  On 11/23/2021 at 9:35 AM, Thaiger said:

The MEA went on to say that the authority is concerned about safety and asked the public to report if they see power lines that are damaged or not in a safe condition.

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OK I know this is the MEA, but the PEA I'm sure are no different. They just wait for problems to occur before repairing them.
No preventative maintenance at all.

We have a PEA pole about a kilometre from  us that's nearly thirty degrees from the vertical, leaning towards the road.
I called the PEA three months ago, who said they will sort it out. Nah, nothing. They'll wait until it falls onto the road before they do anything. Hopefully no one will be killed.
 

[Prosaap]

Half off them are not in use also if there is a problem they just make a new wire if they forced to take away the one not in use it look beter already

[mickkotlarski]

  On 11/23/2021 at 10:18 AM, Prosaap said:

Half off them are not in use also if there is a problem they just make a new wire if they forced to take away the one not in use it look beter already

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Problem with that is ir would be orderly and logical.

[Fanta]

I bet they they used the word tunnelling to distinguish between this and their many other boring announcements. 

[Rookiescot]

Problem is they dont label anything. Now if there is a line break somewhere you can follow the line and patch/repair the break. Here they just run a new line. So many of the lines you see are actually redundant. Strip out the now useless broken line? Not going to happen. Poles become overloaded with the weight. Now the pole is sitting there ready to topple. Fix it? Hell no. Wait until it actually falls over thus causing power outages and no internet to hundreds of people.

Some of them are so bad its only the power lines holding them up.

And lets not get started on how they run new cables. Sending someone up a bamboo ladder who will then stand upon his cable of choice and work his way along to the next pole. Rinse and repeat.

I honestly cant watch them. Nor the guys who arrive in a bosuns chair to clean the windows of high-rise buildings.

[JackIsAGoodBoy]

The reason for air cables is they they are a lot more cheaper and quicker to repair in flood prone areas with ground erosion and movement.

[bvbeyond]

Time for citywide 5G wifi.

[KaptainRob]

  On 11/23/2021 at 10:48 AM, JackIsAGoodBoy said:

The reason for air cables is they they are a lot more cheaper and quicker to repair in flood prone areas with ground erosion and movement.

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That is true, especially in urban and rural areas. 

However there is an MEA/PEA program of undergrounding cables in many city regions now; Phuket, Bangkok, Ubon Ratchathani ... are those I know of.  It's an expensive, intrusive and slow process.

MEA/PEA are in some areas mandating underground services for new moobans but getting the Telco's to join the party is another problem.

[Shark]

  On 11/23/2021 at 11:01 AM, KaptainRob said:

However there is an MEA/PEA program of undergrounding cables in many city regions now; Phuket, Bangkok, Ubon Ratchathani ... are those I know of.  It's an expensive, intrusive and slow process.

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parts of Samui have been done Chaweng and Bo Phut in particular. But like many things... it also goes without a plan.

[Jason]

I thought the pandemic was a challenge.....

[Bob20]

  On 11/23/2021 at 11:01 AM, KaptainRob said:

That is true, especially in urban and rural areas. 

However there is an MEA/PEA program of undergrounding cables in many city regions now; Phuket, Bangkok, Ubon Ratchathani ... are those I know of.  It's an expensive, intrusive and slow process.

MEA/PEA are in some areas mandating underground services for new moobans but getting the Telco's to join the party is another problem.

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CM too, Huay Kaew road was supposed to be first in the digital city project. Announced 3 years ago. Not started yet...

[Shark]

  On 11/23/2021 at 11:13 AM, Bob20 said:

CM too, Huay Kaew road was supposed to be first in the digital city project. Announced 3 years ago. Not started yet...

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analog city anybody?

[Jason]

I was wrong...rewiring Thailand? Maybe a decade?? It would take an army of electricians! What was Prayut thinking??

[Bluesofa]

  On 11/23/2021 at 11:14 AM, Shark said:

analog city anybody?

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Best of both worlds:

[Bob20]

  On 11/23/2021 at 11:14 AM, Shark said:

analog city anybody?

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We had this discussion a few weeks ago (many things keep repeating here). They should bury a network of tubes under pavements and roads so they remain accessible and not everything needs to be dug up time after time.

Also, don't forget that, what will be in the tubes, is a lot less than is visible now. Fibre optics can carry larger bandwidth and redundant cables can go.

But it's the same with the tapwater. They say it's potable when it comes from the waterplant, but gets polluted in the leaky pipe-system. Then don't keep extending it, but start renewing it bit by bit.

When these things start changing, maybe there's an actual chance of getting the kind of tourist they hope for as well.

[Faraday]

I would imagine he thinks he can use those submarines to do this.

[Smithydog]

The challenge in any such project will be the ability to secure not just the underground cables, but access pits for access.

In Australia, most pits etc are sidewalk based, providing avenues for cable running and suitable pits etc. The cable paths, for Telcos anyway, are mapped with to  the point where each is fully mapped back to the panel in an exchange.

Doing this would require a significant infrastructure project, just to lay the cables, let alone do all of associated additional connection work needed.

[riclag]

First you need to take care of the flooding

[Graham]

Should have done it when the put the electric cables underground, now they will dig all the streets up again, ah but wait, it will be new contracts so more in the trough again, win win. 555

[AdvocatusDiaboli]

  On 11/23/2021 at 9:35 AM, Thaiger said:

during actor Russell Crowe’s highly publicised trip to Thailand to film “Greatest Beer Run Ever”

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Obviously a Fantasy film ….. unless filmed in a HiSo bar, Tesco or 7/11.

[HolyCowCm]

Well if Moses could part the Red Sea then why can’t ole Cheese head part the ground and mysteriously have the wires float into them himself!

[Paco]

"power lines that are damaged or not in a safe condition."

None is in safe condition, how many people already die from these damn wires? How low are they sometimes hanging even even child can touch them. Irresponsible, mess it is. Stone age

[Cathat]

In the unlikely event of all these things getting done everybody would then complain it's boring and antiseptic now.