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Just had my second vaccine shot , AZ, got the cert for travel etc.  No mention was made of a free (or otherwise) third booster shot.  Anyone have any information about them? 

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I'm not sure if there are any plans for a booster, I had my second jab on Friday but nothing was mentioned about a booster.

However just read an 'experts' view in the Bangkok Post and it has said that a booster will be very likely, infact it may be needed periodically it was stated.

I could provide the link but I believe quotes from the Bangkok Post are not allowed, could someone deny or confirm this, thanks.😀

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3 hours ago, Pinetree said:

Just had my second vaccine shot , AZ, got the cert for travel etc.  No mention was made of a free (or otherwise) third booster shot.  Anyone have any information about them? 

Sorry but I don't understand the question. How many shot's does that make in total? My understanding is that one booster shot is given if you had one or two shots of Sino.

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37 minutes ago, JohninDubin said:

Sorry but I don't understand the question. How many shot's does that make in total? My understanding is that one booster shot is given if you had one or two shots of Sino.

Booster shots are now being given in the west for all who have already had two shots of vaccine, in the UK case, of AZ.  It appears that the current thinking is for yearly boosters, just as for flu. 

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1 minute ago, Pinetree said:

Booster shots are now being given in the west for all who have already had two shots of vaccine, in the UK case, of AZ.  It appears that the current thinking is for yearly boosters, just as for flu. 

According to a recent Swedish full-population study s the Pfizer mRNA vaccine only provides max 6 months 'protection', and the J&J one only 2 months.  So they are considering 6-monthly booster-shots, the wet-dream of every vaccine manufacturer. 

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6 minutes ago, Tjampman said:

I think you are exaggerating a bit here...

The correct term would be waning

It is not like it just stops working, just that breakthrough infections occur Mor frequently.

Not exaggerating at all.  Here a quote from the article commenting on that Swedish full population cohort study.

> At one to two months out from vaccination, the vaccines provided a 91% reduction in risk of hospitalization or death. By four to six months, that had dropped to 74%. And from six months out, the reduction was down to 42%, although the difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated group was no longer statistically significant. In other words, at the six month time point it was no longer possible to detect a statistically significant effect of vaccination on risk of hospitalization or death.

And here the link to the article (which includes a link to the actual study) > https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/11/05/covid-how-long-does-vaccine-based-immunity-last/

 

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15 minutes ago, BlueSphinx said:

Not exaggerating at all.  Here a quote from the article commenting on that Swedish full population cohort study.

> At one to two months out from vaccination, the vaccines provided a 91% reduction in risk of hospitalization or death. By four to six months, that had dropped to 74%. And from six months out, the reduction was down to 42%, although the difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated group was no longer statistically significant. In other words, at the six month time point it was no longer possible to detect a statistically significant effect of vaccination on risk of hospitalization or death.

And here the link to the article (which includes a link to the actual study) > https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/11/05/covid-how-long-does-vaccine-based-immunity-last/

Yes thats the risk of catching covid. Not the risk of being put in hospital by it.

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5 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Yes thats the risk of catching covid. Not the risk of being put in hospital by it.

Nope, the article also addresses infection risk comparison, but the statement is about hospitalization or death from covid-19>  at the six month time point it was no longer possible to detect a statistically significant effect of vaccination on risk of hospitalization or death.

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4 hours ago, Pinetree said:

Just had my second vaccine shot , AZ, got the cert for travel etc.  No mention was made of a free (or otherwise) third booster shot.  Anyone have any information about them? 

I've had 2 shots of Pfizer but no notification about boosters. Some nations recommending a third shot with intervals varying from 3 to 12 months. I guess more info will become available so Big Pharma continues getting a generous profit.

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1 hour ago, Pinetree said:

Booster shots are now being given in the west for all who have already had two shots of vaccine, in the UK case, of AZ.  It appears that the current thinking is for yearly boosters, just as for flu. 

Yes. I am aware, but bearing in mind that in some cases in TH are that if you've had 1 Sino, then an AZ counts as a booster, and your question implies more than I booster shot in any case.

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20 minutes ago, BlueSphinx said:

Nope, the article also addresses infection risk comparison, but the statement is about hospitalization or death from covid-19>  at the six month time point it was no longer possible to detect a statistically significant effect of vaccination on risk of hospitalization or death.

No he is deliberately conflating risk of catching the virus with the risk of hospitalisation. 

In the UK the daily infection rate is huge. As bad as it was when the pandemic first broke out. Hospitalisations on the other hand are WAY down as are deaths. And the UK tests a lot.

Now given we are dealing with the delta variant (far more contagious but carries the same risk of death) rather than the original, how would you explain the difference in those figures? 

Oh thats right you cant without admitting the vaccines have actually made the difference.

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18 minutes ago, mickkotlarski said:

I've had 2 shots of Pfizer but no notification about boosters. Some nations recommending a third shot with intervals varying from 3 to 12 months. I guess more info will become available so Big Pharma continues getting a generous profit.

Not in the case of AZ. Who made it available at cost.

The Chinese Sinovac was indeed marked up and look what happened here in Thailand and elsewhere where they relied on that stuff.

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1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

Not in the case of AZ. Who made it available at cost.

The Chinese Sinovac was indeed marked up and look what happened here in Thailand and elsewhere where they relied on that stuff.

Actually the Oxford medical research team was planning to give the vaccines blue print to all nations. It was after Astra Zeneca came in that it became profit oriented but the cost was far less than the Chinese and American vaccines.

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On 11/7/2021 at 12:33 PM, Pinetree said:

Booster shots are now being given in the west for all who have already had two shots of vaccine, in the UK case, of AZ.  It appears that the current thinking is for yearly boosters, just as for flu. 

I'm in the UK and have had 3 including booster and all Pfizer.

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