News Forum - American man confesses to rape and assaults, blames drug use

[Thaiger]

The 37 year old American man now identified by police only as Robert A. has confessed to police to committing rape and sexual assault and said that his use of the illegal drug speed was the cause of his behaviour.  According to the Deputy Commander of the Royal Thai Police, the man said he took the drug, a less potent form of meth, before committing both the brutal attack and rape of the 45 year old masseuse on Monday, much of which was captured on CCTV, and the subsequent sexual assault on the young girl at a roadside stall selling […]

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[NCC1701A]

26 minutes ago, Thaiger said:

The 37 year old American man now identified by police only as Robert A.

is his last name Hole?

[Jannot]

I have no sympathy for this idiot,, feel sorry for his partner.. I hear this so often,,, '"wasnt me was the drugs/drink.. Well hell mend you,, you took the stuff now suffer the cosequences... 

[Bob20]

52 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

is his last name Hole?

No, William Anker.

[Fluke]

Is this drug known as Ya-ba in Thailand ?

[Malc-Thai]

Most don't take drugs as a one off.. they've been doing it a while. For 2 incidents in a day? I wouldn't be surprised if some others come forward to report crimes against him..

[Jason]

I suppose when you're faced with irrefutable evidence of your crime, his confession is no surprise. At least it will save the victim, the indignity and added trauma of having to recount the whole horrible crime in front of an open court. I do hope the judge awards the victim enough damages out of the perpetrators assets (which seem signifigant). As to drugs as an excuse, I think this guy will find, it won't wash with a Judge. But will he serve out his term in a Thai prison or be booted out of Thailand to serve a sentence in an American prison. I don't see why the people of Thailand should have to pay.

[Poolie]

1 hour ago, NCC1701A said:

is his last name Hole?

No. Gordon. Robert Andrew of that ilk. Or RAG for brevity.

See todays Bangkok Post.

[Malc-Thai]

8 minutes ago, Jason said:

I suppose when you're faced with irrefutable evidence of your crime, his confession is no surprise. At least it will save the victim, the indignity and added trauma of having to recount the whole horrible crime in front of an open court. I do hope the judge awards the victim enough damages out of the perpetrators assets (which seem signifigant). As to drugs as an excuse, I think this guy will find, it won't wash with a Judge. But will he serve out his term in a Thai prison or be booted out of Thailand to serve a sentence in an American prison. I don't see why the people of Thailand should have to pay.

I sure he won't get an option . If or when found guilty he will go immediately to a thai jail. then it's up to the US embassy to strike a deal to take him back to the US to serve time.. that's not overnight and no doubt the thai prisoners will not take to kindly to him being in with them...

[Fluke]

10 minutes ago, Malc-Thai said:

I sure he won't get an option . If or when found guilty he will go immediately to a thai jail. then it's up to the US embassy to strike a deal to take him back to the US to serve time.. that's not overnight and no doubt the thai prisoners will not take to kindly to him being in with them...

As he has admitted to the crime, he will get his sentenced reduced by half , if he gets sentenced  to ten years jail , it will be reduced to five years . 

   If he goes back to the U.S.A , he would have to serve the full ten years with no reduction for good behavior or anything 

[Stonker]

31 minutes ago, Jason said:

. At least it will save the victim, the indignity and added trauma of having to recount the whole horrible crime in front of an open court.

The victim still usually has to give evidence in a Thai court if possible, and at least formally identify the suspect / defendant.

After my Thai partner was robbed at knife point in Pattaya several years ago, when the case came to court the judge asked my partner and one of the group of motorbike-taxi drivers who'd chased the muggers down and caught them "do you recognise the thief" - not hard, as he conveniently smiled, held up his hand, waved, and stood up with a clanking of chains from his leg irons.

Gen.

[Stonker]

7 minutes ago, Fluke said:

As he has admitted to the crime, he will get his sentenced reduced by half , if he gets sentenced  to ten years jail , it will be reduced to five years . 

   If he goes back to the U.S.A , he would have to serve the full ten years with no reduction for good behavior or anything 

Hopefully he'll be transferred just before he's due to be released - if he lasts that long.

[ChristyS]

Why not blame a sexist, patriarchal society that views women as servants and/or sex toys? Thailand's too.

[Fluke]

2 minutes ago, ChristyS said:

Why not blame a sexist, patriarchal society that views women as servants and/or sex toys? Thailand's too.

Because that isnt what caused this crime 

[Stonker]

36 minutes ago, Jason said:

I don't see why the people of Thailand should have to pay.

They don't pay very much for those in prison ...

[ChristyS]

21 minutes ago, Fluke said:

Because that isnt what caused this crime 

If he's going to blame a  drug,  I'm going to list an accompanying factor.

Had this man been raised in a culture  that does not sexualize women to the utmost - he may well have resisted his urge  to force one into sex.  

Or maybe he's just a pig...a pig in a culture (Thailand)   where Western men are encouraged to view women as sex dolls to be used for sexual gratification. 

I'm reminded of Dr Joyce Elders, who was the US Surgeon General under Clinton- for a short time. She  was forced into quitting for advocating masturbation be taught  to children along with other sex education topics.  Caused quite an uproar with the religious zealots that pretty much dictate US  education policies.

At  age 37  Mr Robert A.  would have been one of  the students taught Elders' views on sexual responsibility had Clinton stuck to his guns.   Instead he's in Thailand exploiting women  with thousands of other Westerners

https://encyclopediaofarkansas.net/entries/joycelyn-elders-2240/

Edited October 3, 2021 by ChristyS

[Fluke]

9 minutes ago, ChristyS said:

I'm reminded of Dr Joyce Elders, who was the US Surgeon General under Clinton- for a short time.

Was She under Bill Clinton for a short time ? 

Or was it Hilary ?

[gummy]

33 minutes ago, Fluke said:

Was She under Bill Clinton for a short time ? 

Or was it Hilary ?

No, it was Monika Lewinsky who  was under Bill for short times

[miblish51]

"Speed" is a slang term for a variety of strong stimulants, including methamphetamine.

Interesting that one foreigner commits a crime and it's big news. How many Thais raped women today?  Why no stories about them? 

[Poolie]

41 minutes ago, miblish51 said:

"Speed" is a slang term for a variety of strong stimulants, including methamphetamine.

Interesting that one foreigner commits a crime and it's big news. How many Thais raped women today?  Why no stories about them? 

Take up journalism and write them. Don't forget to apply for your work permit though will you?

[kerryd]

He won't get away with claiming he was "too stoned" at the time. 

All they have to do is look at the CCTV, note how he moved, note how he dressed himself completely, note how he rode away on a motorcycle (even remembering his helmet) and then note just how far he rode afterwards (from Khon Kaen to Bangkok).

Hardly the actions of someone "too stoned to remember doing anything". And this is Thailand so I doubt they'll be as soft and lenient as courts in some Western countries would be.

Also, it wouldn't be the first time someone did something and then took drugs (or drank booze) afterwards to try and claim they were stoned (or drunk) at the time.
Used to be the "de jour" thing to do if you got into an accident on the way home from a bar. Leave the car (or drive it home even) then immediately pound back a couple beers or a few shots of whiskey so that when the cops show up you can claim you were sober until you got home and then started drinking to "calm your nerves". No way they can prove otherwise, even though they pretty much know what really happened.

Also, it's like all those people who commit a crime then, afterwards, are suddenly diagnosed with a mental illness that no one knew about before. "Oh this guy is a psycho schizophrenic with bi-polar and dissociative tendencies that miraculously had no affect on him for 40 years, until after he needed an alibi and a way to stay out of a maximum security prison."

Like that guy in Canada who stabbed and beheaded a fellow passenger on a bus in 2008. He claimed he heard the "voice of god" and was found not criminally responsible because (while in custody and needing a way out) he was suddenly diagnosed with schizophrenia.
He was sent to a mental institute where he must have made a miraculous recovery because he was granted unescorted "day parole" barely 5 years later and 3 years later granted total freedom.

Barely 8 years, served in a cushy mental institute. Pretty easy time for murdering someone and cutting off their head. Little wonder so many people suddenly develop a "mental illness" - after they commit a crime.

But this is Thailand and they aren't going to have any sympathy over any claimed "mental condition". 

And no jury to try and play the sympathy game with either.