Constitutional challenges represented by Trump

[PBS]

Is Trump seeding the ground for an authoritarian government in 2024?

 

Trump and his Republican allies are actively preparing to ensure his victory by whatever means necessary. Trump’s charges of fraud in the 2020 election are now primarily aimed at establishing the predicate to challenge future election results that do not go his way.

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2381805860395/opinion-our-constitutional-crisis-is-already-here

[Fluke]

I do hope that Trump comes back again, we all do miss him , even the Anti Trumpers miss getting infuriated with him and ranting about him on a daily basis .

   Come back Donald , Joe just isn't interesting 

[TopDeadSenter]

18 hours ago, PBS said:

Is Trump seeding the ground for an authoritarian government in 2024?

Trump and his Republican allies are actively preparing to ensure his victory by whatever means necessary. Trump’s charges of fraud in the 2020 election are now primarily aimed at establishing the predicate to challenge future election results that do not go his way.

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2381805860395/opinion-our-constitutional-crisis-is-already-here

Chicken and egg situation it seems. The leftist icons claimed Trump was illegitimate and cheated in the 2016 election. Then Trump does the same, and the left lose their minds. Go figure. For me the 2020 election was null and void after the left knowingly covered up evidence of Joe Biden's corruption by claiming without a shred of evidence it was "Russian disinformation" and blocked the truth being told/shared. The MSM and big tech intentionally misled low info democrat voters who were not allowed to learn Biden was taking dirty money from America's enemies(doing exactly what the left falsely accused Trump of doing!)

"Hillary Clinton dismissed President Trump as an “illegitimate president” and suggested that “he knows” that he stole the 2016 presidential election in a CBS News interview to be aired Sunday."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

 

" After a woman claimed she had a "very severe case of what's called Trump Derangement Syndrome," and that Trump is an "illegitimate president in my mind," Biden responded: "I absolutely agree." 

https://www.insider.com/joe-biden-says-he-agrees-trump-is-illegitimate-president-2019-5

[9S_]

18 hours ago, PBS said:

authoritarian government

Those who accuse others of being “authoritarian” are quick to use authoritarian tactics once in office

Ex: Forced vaccine mandates, censorship, blacklisting, monitoring bank accounts, 

[PBS]

1 hour ago, 9S_ said:

Those who accuse others of being “authoritarian” are quick to use authoritarian tactics once in office

Ex: Forced vaccine mandates, censorship, blacklisting, monitoring bank accounts, 

Atypical right wing extremist BS baffles brains attempt.

[PBS]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Chicken and egg situation it seems. The leftist icons claimed Trump was illegitimate and cheated in the 2016 election. Then Trump does the same, and the left lose their minds. Go figure. For me the 2020 election was null and void after the left knowingly covered up evidence of Joe Biden's corruption by claiming without a shred of evidence it was "Russian disinformation" and blocked the truth being told/shared. The MSM and big tech intentionally misled low info democrat voters who were not allowed to learn Biden was taking dirty money from America's enemies(doing exactly what the left falsely accused Trump of doing!)

"Hillary Clinton dismissed President Trump as an “illegitimate president” and suggested that “he knows” that he stole the 2016 presidential election in a CBS News interview to be aired Sunday."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

" After a woman claimed she had a "very severe case of what's called Trump Derangement Syndrome," and that Trump is an "illegitimate president in my mind," Biden responded: "I absolutely agree." 

https://www.insider.com/joe-biden-says-he-agrees-trump-is-illegitimate-president-2019-5

Clintons comments fade into insignificance compared to trump's massively corrupt 'big lie' campaign after his 2020 loss, lies which he repeats practically every day to date. In addition let's not forget trump's 30k plus lies and misinformation claims during his presidency. IMO trump and his enablers will be facing Court in the not to far distance - good riddance to a vile individual.

[9S_]

27 minutes ago, PBS said:

Atypical right wing extremist BS baffles brains attempt.

Ad Hominem: used by people who add nothing of value to a civil debate

How can Trump be “authoritarian” when:

a) he doesn’t force vaccine mandates

b) he opposes censorship 

c) refrains from starting any new wars

d) opposes IRS bank reporting rules for any $600 transaction

e) answers questions

Joe Biden on the other hand who knows if he’s the Resident or someone else

[9S_]

26 minutes ago, PBS said:

Clintons comments fade into insignificance

Not really since she hired the law firm to spread a false claim. Now one of her lawyers has been indicted for lying to the FBI about his involvement and his clients involvement: Clinton 

 

26 minutes ago, PBS said:

In addition let's not forget trump's 30k plus lies and misinformation claims during his presidency

Can you compare his number of lies with Obama or Bush?

When Trump hosted athletes he served them hamburgers. Trump was quoted saying there’s “enough burgers to reach a mile” is that a lie? 

Fact Checkers counted the burgers in the room, measured the boxes and concluded Trump lied. Is it a lie or a hyperbole?

26 minutes ago, PBS said:

IMO trump and his enablers will be facing Court in the not to far distance - good riddance to a vile individual.

-Trump was acquitted twice 

-Mueller’s Special Investigation concluded he found no links between Trump and Russia

-NY AG is going after unpaid taxes on fringe benefits 

At least he didn’t start any new wars amirite? Or vaporize 7 children and an aid worker. 

[Fluke]

37 minutes ago, PBS said:

Atypical right wing extremist BS baffles brains attempt.

Why do you regard him as being a "Right-wing" extremists ?

It seems to be a label that the Left wing use regularly .

Instead  of talking about Political issues , just call the other person a Right wing extremist and then turn the discussion as to whether hes a Nazi or not 

[PBS]

46 minutes ago, Fluke said:

Why do you regard him as being a "Right-wing" extremists ?

It seems to be a label that the Left wing use regularly .

Instead  of talking about Political issues , just call the other person a Right wing extremist and then turn the discussion as to whether hes a Nazi or not 

The argument utilised by the member is standard fare in right of centre circles. These days the term 'right wing extremists' does not necessarily denote affiliation to Nazi ideology. In the context of trump world it would be accurate to refer to extreme paleo conservatism as promoted by some of trump's closest advisers e.g. Stephen Miller.

[PBS]

57 minutes ago, 9S_ said:

-Trump was acquitted twice 

Again standard propaganda memes by you, trump was acquitted twice only because Republicans put their loyalty to trump as more important than their Oath of Office to defend the Constitution - they are all an absolute disgrace.

[9S_]

2 minutes ago, PBS said:

Again standard propaganda memes by you, trump was acquitted twice only because Republicans put their loyalty to trump as more important than their Oath of Office to defend the Constitution - they are all an absolute disgrace.

Your position is considered to be “extreme” it presupposes guilt when that’s not how it is done in the US. Presupposing guilt before a verdict is what you do in an authoritarian country. 
 

Trumps impeachment was about a perfect phone call regarding Joe Bidens Qui Pro Quo about a prosecutor investigating Joe’s sons involvement while Biden was point man in Ukraine. Biden threatened to withhold foreign aid unless the prosecutor investigating his son was removed. 
 

The second impeachment failed because Trump never incited anyone to do or commit violence. His speech is lawfully protected and was devoid of any inflammatory or directions for violence. His speech also ended well after the rally at the Capitol building started. 
 

For example he told my fellow Patriots to : “Peacefully and patriotically March to the Capitol Building”

In fact Trump was once sued for “inciting violence” the case was thrown out. 

[Poolie]

Seems like a newspaper scuffle to me. I wouldn't insult a bag of chips by wrapping them in it.

[TopDeadSenter]

1 hour ago, 9S_ said:

Your position is considered to be “extreme” it presupposes guilt when that’s not how it is done in the US. Presupposing guilt before a verdict is what you do in an authoritarian country. 
 

Trumps impeachment was about a perfect phone call regarding Joe Bidens Qui Pro Quo about a prosecutor investigating Joe’s sons involvement while Biden was point man in Ukraine. Biden threatened to withhold foreign aid unless the prosecutor investigating his son was removed. 
 

The second impeachment failed because Trump never incited anyone to do or commit violence. His speech is lawfully protected and was devoid of any inflammatory or directions for violence. His speech also ended well after the rally at the Capitol building started. 
 

For example he told my fellow Patriots to : “Peacefully and patriotically March to the Capitol Building”

In fact Trump was once sued for “inciting violence” the case was thrown out. 

So reassuring to see at least some people have been paying attention.

[Rookiescot]

3 hours ago, 9S_ said:

Ad Hominem: used by people who add nothing of value to a civil debate

How can Trump be “authoritarian” when:

a) he doesn’t force vaccine mandates

b) he opposes censorship 

c) refrains from starting any new wars

d) opposes IRS bank reporting rules for any $600 transaction

e) answers questions

Joe Biden on the other hand who knows if he’s the Resident or someone else

You are aware that it was Trump who started talking to the Taliban behind everyones back yes?

Talks which did not include any of its allies or even the Afghan government.

It was Trump who told the Taliban the US was leaving.

[9S_]

23 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

You are aware that it was Trump who started talking to the Taliban behind everyones back yes?

And you do realize that it was Joe Biden who totally and unconditionally surrendered to the Taliban right? 

Resulting in the Taliban gaining more ground than they did when we first invaded in 2001? And gaining far more advanced weaponry than did when we first invaded in 2001. Joe Biden literally upgraded their arsenal by 50 years in less than a month.

Also the peace deal had an escape clause, that if the Taliban attacked (which they did in 2021) then the deal would be void (which Biden didn’t do)

23 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Talks which did not include any of its allies or even the Afghan government.

And after the deal who did the Taliban negotiate with? The Afghan government.  
 

Biden didn’t even tell our Allies he was leaving  so much so that:

1  the British Parliament voted to hold Joe Biden in contempt  the first US President in Modern US-UK history to be voted in contempt  

2. NATO declared Joe Bidens Total Unconditional Surrender as one of NATO’s “Biggest foreign policy debacles since NATOs founding

3. Empowers jihadi movements across the globe. We are no longer safer than we were a year before since Al-Qaida lived back in along with ISIS-K  

 

23 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

It was Trump who told the Taliban the US was leaving.

Conditionally leaving, that’s why you saw the Taliban engage in peace talks with the Afghan government. Which the Taliban honored until Joe Biden came into office and willfully totally unconditionally surrendered to the Taliban. He even vaporized 7 children and 3 adults including an aid worker right before we left. Not to mention the hundreds of American citizens Biden left behind. Or thousands of Afghan Allies who helped us left behind too. He also left behind his interpreter who rescued Biden when his plan got into engine trouble in the Afghan wilderness

Not the first time Biden left Americans behind. He left them behind in Benghazi too. And Joe was there when Saigon fell. In fact he lobbied Congress to withhold military aid to the South Vietnamese government while the Chinese and Russians backed the north. The fact that the South didn’t fall years after the last American troops left is a testament to the South’s ability to defend itself with US aid. And Joe Biden? Playing the same tune in Afghanistan  as he did when he was a Senator when Saigon fell. 

[Rookiescot]

4 hours ago, 9S_ said:

And you do realize that it was Joe Biden who totally and unconditionally surrendered to the Taliban right? 

Resulting in the Taliban gaining more ground than they did when we first invaded in 2001? And gaining far more advanced weaponry than did when we first invaded in 2001. Joe Biden literally upgraded their arsenal by 50 years in less than a month.

Also the peace deal had an escape clause, that if the Taliban attacked (which they did in 2021) then the deal would be void (which Biden didn’t do)

And after the deal who did the Taliban negotiate with? The Afghan government.  
 

Biden didn’t even tell our Allies he was leaving  so much so that:

1  the British Parliament voted to hold Joe Biden in contempt  the first US President in Modern US-UK history to be voted in contempt  

2. NATO declared Joe Bidens Total Unconditional Surrender as one of NATO’s “Biggest foreign policy debacles since NATOs founding

3. Empowers jihadi movements across the globe. We are no longer safer than we were a year before since Al-Qaida lived back in along with ISIS-K  

Conditionally leaving, that’s why you saw the Taliban engage in peace talks with the Afghan government. Which the Taliban honored until Joe Biden came into office and willfully totally unconditionally surrendered to the Taliban. He even vaporized 7 children and 3 adults including an aid worker right before we left. Not to mention the hundreds of American citizens Biden left behind. Or thousands of Afghan Allies who helped us left behind too. He also left behind his interpreter who rescued Biden when his plan got into engine trouble in the Afghan wilderness

Not the first time Biden left Americans behind. He left them behind in Benghazi too. And Joe was there when Saigon fell. In fact he lobbied Congress to withhold military aid to the South Vietnamese government while the Chinese and Russians backed the north. The fact that the South didn’t fall years after the last American troops left is a testament to the South’s ability to defend itself with US aid. And Joe Biden? Playing the same tune in Afghanistan  as he did when he was a Senator when Saigon fell. 

Thats ridiculous. 

Trump told the Taliban the US was leaving. Without consulting ANY of the allies including the Afghan government.

The ONE thing you dont do when negotiating with an enemy is tell them what your plans are. Art of the deal indeed LOL.

All the Taliban had to do at that point was negotiate with all the provincial commanders and wait. Thats why they were able to take over without a shot being fired.

The Taliban were not negotiating with the Afghan government. Thats why the Afghan government decided to steal all the money and flee.

Trump sold everyone out. Including his allies. The countries who had expended lives and money in support of the US.

Which escape clause? Please give details of that.

The rest of your post is just conspiratory nonsense. One thing is for sure. Where was Trump during the Vietnam conflict? Oh yeah. Bone spurs eh?

[9S_]

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

Thats ridiculous.

No it’s not it’s reality. Afghanistan didn’t fall last year it fell a month ago under Bidens watch 

 

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

Trump told the Taliban the US was leaving. Without consulting ANY of the allies including the Afghan government.

No that was Joe Biden. He actually unilaterally changed the date of withdrawal twice. That’s why the Uk parliament voted in contempt of Joe Biden for his disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. That’s why NATO declared Joe Bidens withdrawal as a the worst foreign policy debacle since NATOs founding.

Trumps withdrawal was conditional based. Joe Bidens was not. The fact that the Taliban attacked en masse in April and Joe Bidens lack of response proves that Joe Biden disregarded trumps conditional based withdrawal

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

All the Taliban had to do at that point was negotiate with all the provincial commanders and wait. Thats why they were able to take over without a shot being fired.

The Taliban were not negotiating with the Afghan government. 

How many provincial capitals fell while Trump was President?

How many provinces fell while Trump was President?

How much territory and weaponry did the Taliban gain while Trump was President?

How many provincial capitals fell, provides fell and advanced weaponry gain under Biden?

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

Thats why the Afghan government decided to steal all the money and flee

Yea because of Joe Biden. The Afghan suffered nearly 50,000 dead soldiers fighting the Taliban. Not to mention the Afghan army was modeled after the US Army, which utilizes coordination between ground forces and air support. When Joe Biden blocked all support for Afghanistan Air Force( Denying service contractors, mechanics, fuel and ammunition for the aircraft) that’s when it failed. Sound familiar? It’s the exact same plan that Biden played with the fall of Saigon. Don’t forget that Nixon promised military aid to the South a Vietnamese even after US troop withdrawal. When he resigned and Ford took over, it was Joe Biden a US Senator who led the charge to NOT provide aid to the south Vietnamese army causing Saigon to fall. 

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

Trump sold everyone out. Including his allies. The countries who had expended lives and money in support of the US.

That’s strange. During the last day of Trumps presidency:

1.  Kabul controlled all provinces

2. Kabul controlled all provincial capitals 

3. US still had control of Begram airbase

4. 5,000 ISIS prisoners were secured at Begram Prison

5. Taliban controlled only a few districts of territory

6. Afghanistan had a functioning Air Force 

now under Joe Biden:

The Taliban now control far more territory than they did when we first invaded in 2001. And the Taliban now have far more advanced weaponry than they dj whe. We first invaded in 2001. This is Joe Bidens Total Unconditional Surrender to the Taliban. 

Joe ignored the conditional withdrawal set forth by Trump. Joe unilaterally ignored the dates and even changed it twice. He even bragged about it. It was Joe who ignored his diplomatic advisors on the ground, intelligence officials and military advisers NOT to withdraw, he ignored all of them including our allies. 

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

Which escape clause? Please give details of that.

Oh you don’t know about that? Strange. Everyone knows about that even Joe Biden. 

 

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

The rest of your post is just conspiratory nonsense

How convenient of you. Disprove me. 

 

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

Where was Trump during the Vietnam conflict? Oh yeah. Bone spurs eh?

Trump was a private citizen not a politician. Not the first time Joe Biden ruined a country. Examples include: Libya, Syria and now Afghanistan. 

[Rookiescot]

14 hours ago, 9S_ said:

No it’s not it’s reality. Afghanistan didn’t fall last year it fell a month ago under Bidens watch 

No that was Joe Biden. He actually unilaterally changed the date of withdrawal twice. That’s why the Uk parliament voted in contempt of Joe Biden for his disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. That’s why NATO declared Joe Bidens withdrawal as a the worst foreign policy debacle since NATOs founding.

Trumps withdrawal was conditional based. Joe Bidens was not. The fact that the Taliban attacked en masse in April and Joe Bidens lack of response proves that Joe Biden disregarded trumps conditional based withdrawal

How many provincial capitals fell while Trump was President?

How many provinces fell while Trump was President?

How much territory and weaponry did the Taliban gain while Trump was President?

How many provincial capitals fell, provides fell and advanced weaponry gain under Biden?

Yea because of Joe Biden. The Afghan suffered nearly 50,000 dead soldiers fighting the Taliban. Not to mention the Afghan army was modeled after the US Army, which utilizes coordination between ground forces and air support. When Joe Biden blocked all support for Afghanistan Air Force( Denying service contractors, mechanics, fuel and ammunition for the aircraft) that’s when it failed. Sound familiar? It’s the exact same plan that Biden played with the fall of Saigon. Don’t forget that Nixon promised military aid to the South a Vietnamese even after US troop withdrawal. When he resigned and Ford took over, it was Joe Biden a US Senator who led the charge to NOT provide aid to the south Vietnamese army causing Saigon to fall. 

That’s strange. During the last day of Trumps presidency:

1.  Kabul controlled all provinces

2. Kabul controlled all provincial capitals 

3. US still had control of Begram airbase

4. 5,000 ISIS prisoners were secured at Begram Prison

5. Taliban controlled only a few districts of territory

6. Afghanistan had a functioning Air Force 

now under Joe Biden:

The Taliban now control far more territory than they did when we first invaded in 2001. And the Taliban now have far more advanced weaponry than they dj whe. We first invaded in 2001. This is Joe Bidens Total Unconditional Surrender to the Taliban. 

Joe ignored the conditional withdrawal set forth by Trump. Joe unilaterally ignored the dates and even changed it twice. He even bragged about it. It was Joe who ignored his diplomatic advisors on the ground, intelligence officials and military advisers NOT to withdraw, he ignored all of them including our allies. 

Oh you don’t know about that? Strange. Everyone knows about that even Joe Biden. 

How convenient of you. Disprove me. 

Trump was a private citizen not a politician. Not the first time Joe Biden ruined a country. Examples include: Libya, Syria and now Afghanistan. 

Why are you Trump supporters trying to rewrite history.

We all saw Trump announcing his deal with the Taliban. He signed it not Biden. He did so without consultation with any of his coalition partners. It was his deal. He basically got outsmarted by Afghan goat herders.

Biden inherited Trumps useless deal. He delayed it twice because there had been no preparation done for when it went predictably wrong.

Trumps deal. End of. There was no conditional clauses written into it. You cant complain that Biden delayed it twice then complain that Biden didnt delay it. 

[9S_]

30 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Why are you Trump supporters trying to rewrite history.

We all saw Trump announcing his deal with the Taliban. He signed it not Biden

 

Did Afghanistan fall before or after Jan 21 2021?

How many provincial capitals fell before Jan 21 2021?

How many provinces fell before Jan 21 2021?

Easy the answer is zero

Now how many provincial capitals fell while Joe Biden was Resident?

How many provinces fell while Joe Biden was Resident?

Easy the answer is all.

30 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

We all saw Trump announcing his deal with the Taliban. He signed it not Biden. He did so without consultation with any of his coalition partners. It was his deal. He basically got outsmarted by Afghan goat herders.

 

Which was a conditional-based withdrawal. The Taliban reneged on the deal while Joe Biden was president, and he didn’t void it.

But Afghanistan didn’t fall while Trump was president. That happened under Joe Biden. Even our allies condemned Joe Biden:

1.       UK voting to hold Joe Biden in contempt (historical fact: first time in modern US-UK relations)

2.       NATO claimed it was the biggest foreign policy debacle since NATO’s founding

3.       Germany saying it was a devastating failure

30 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Biden inherited Trumps useless deal. He delayed it twice because there had been no preparation done for when it went predictably wrong.

 

 

Biden didn’t inherit a deal. He ignored it! He changed the withdrawal date to coincide with September 11 so he can have his photo op. He changed that to a few months earlier because of “optics.” He touted his decision to withdraw especially since his own military, intelligence and diplomatic advisors told him not to. 

 

If Biden claimed he was bound by Trump’s deal (which he was not): then why would he keep it even though he said it was a bad deal? If he was bound by it then how could he change the date twice? If he was bound by the deal why didn’t he void it when the Taliban and ISIS-K attacked en masse in April-May 2021, which violated the Doha agreement and fulfilled the escape clause?

30 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Trumps deal. End of. There was no conditional clauses written into it. You cant complain that Biden delayed it twice then complain that Biden didnt delay it. 

 

 

There were conditional clauses baked into it. To deny it is to deny fact. The NY Times, Washington Post and the AP all testify to the existence of the conditional clause.
 

https://therightscoop.com/associated-press-exposes-bidens-lies-about-the-deal-trump-made-with-the-taliban/

 

The fact of the matter is that Joe Biden decided to totally unconditionally surrender to the Taliban.

1.       He ignored his diplomatic advisors on the ground as early as the spring to NOT withdraw

2.       He ignored his military and Pentagon advisors to NOT withdraw (you can clearly see this on the Senate Armed Forces hearing: where Generals Miley, Austin and McKenzie told Joe Biden NOT to withdraw

3.       He ignored his own intelligence community’s assessment that the Afghan government will fall if he withdraws

4  Joe Biden left behind 4000 Americans behind enemy lines like how he left our ambassador in Benghazi 

 

 

[Rookiescot]

So Biden should have torn up Trumps deal because it was a bad deal. OK we can agree on that.

Presumably all those Pentagon advisors and intelligence community were telling Trump the same thing BEFORE he signed the deal? 

[9S_]

15 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Presumably all those Pentagon advisors and intelligence community were telling Trump the same thing BEFORE he signed the deal? 

Pentagon, military and diplomatic advisors warned Bush not to withdraw, he listened. 
 

Pentagon, military and diplomatic advisors warned Obama not to withdraw, he listened. 

Pentagon, military and diplomatic advisors warned Trump not to withdraw, he listened. 
 

His peace deal was a condition-based deal, which the Taliban broke but Biden decided to ignore it and pull out anyways

Biden is the only US President who ignored US diplomats in Afghanistan to NOT withdraw. Biden is the only US President to ignore Military advisors, Pentagon advisors, including his own generals to NOT withdraw. 
 

It’s real easy:

1. who was President when Afghanistan fell?

2. Was it Trump who left office on Jan 20 2021 or was it Biden who assumed office in Jan 21 2021?

[Fester]

On 9/27/2021 at 1:32 PM, PBS said:

Is Trump seeding the ground for an authoritarian government in 2024?

Trump and his Republican allies are actively preparing to ensure his victory by whatever means necessary. Trump’s charges of fraud in the 2020 election are now primarily aimed at establishing the predicate to challenge future election results that do not go his way.

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2381805860395/opinion-our-constitutional-crisis-is-already-here

Not surprising really but perhaps he just wants to see votes allowed and counted properly. After the recent Arizona audit findings for Maricopa County, there obviously needs to be a review. Although Joe Biden was confirmed as still having more "votes", tens of thousands of these would have fairly been disqualified under present AZ election laws, with the top three and most critical categories of these enough to possibly swing the whole state of Arizona to Trump. Below from the audit findings:

Mail‐in Ballots Voted from Prior Address Voter History 23,344.

Potential Voters that Voted in Multiple Counties Voter History 10,342.

More Ballots Returned by Voter Than Received Certified Results 9,041.

 

Several other problems identified with the election. Report here:

https://www.azsenaterepublicans.com/cyber-ninjas-report

Edited September 29, 2021 by Fester
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[Rookiescot]

2 hours ago, 9S_ said:

Pentagon, military and diplomatic advisors warned Bush not to withdraw, he listened. 
 

Pentagon, military and diplomatic advisors warned Obama not to withdraw, he listened. 

Pentagon, military and diplomatic advisors warned Trump not to withdraw, he listened. 
 

His peace deal was a condition-based deal, which the Taliban broke but Biden decided to ignore it and pull out anyways

Biden is the only US President who ignored US diplomats in Afghanistan to NOT withdraw. Biden is the only US President to ignore Military advisors, Pentagon advisors, including his own generals to NOT withdraw. 
 

It’s real easy:

1. who was President when Afghanistan fell?

2. Was it Trump who left office on Jan 20 2021 or was it Biden who assumed office in Jan 21 2021?

It is easy.

Who signed the withdrawal agreement?

Are you saying that Biden should have ignored the deal Trump signed?

[Fluke]

7 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

It is easy.

Who signed the withdrawal agreement?

Are you saying that Biden should have ignored the deal Trump signed?

Biden seemed to have reversed many of Trumps decisions and policies