Covid update...Serious Indepth from John Hopkins

[BainaiThai]

My apologies if this has already been posted...This is an incredibly powerful statement from where we were, where we are and where we are going...Very few opinions (and they are from very credible sources) and lots of facts.  

https://wtop.com/coronavirus/2021/09/qa-johns-hopkins-doctor-discusses-importance-of-nuance-when-dealing-with-covid-19/

[JerseyBKK]

This is an interview between a reporter and a surgical oncologist. It's an opinion piece. 

Therapeutics are what will stop Covid, not vaccines and definitely not the current vaccines which are losing efficacy every day. The newer vaccines might be far better than the first group.Here's a vaccine that just published their results 2 days ago. Global study, 30,000 participants. Tested against all the latest variants and results are very impressive. Against ALL variants, 83% efficacy against moderate to severe and 100% efficacy against hospitalization and death. 

 

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/covid-19-vaccine-developed-by-clover-biopharmaceuticals-using-dynavaxs-cpg-1018-adjuvant-meets-primary-and-secondary-efficacy-endpoints-in-global-phase-23-trial-301382650.html 

 

Also over 80 therapeutics in trial. That is where the governments should have focused their energies on but a potential $500 Billion payday buys lots of scientists, politicians and reporters. There are multiple drugs in final stages of testing that cut the risk of death by 80-100%. Also cut the days spent in hospital by over 50%. Also drugs that reverse long term Covid symptoms. Unfortunately many small drug companies (bio-techs) don't have the financial or operational abilities to see their drugs (molecules) through to successful rollout. This is where governments should direct their resources to help these companies. Get Covid, take an pill and 2-3 days later you're OK with no hospital visit necessary. 

 

 

 

[Rain]

7 hours ago, JerseyBKK said:

This is an interview between a reporter and a surgical oncologist. It's an opinion piece. 

Therapeutics are what will stop Covid, not vaccines and definitely not the current vaccines which are losing efficacy every day. The newer vaccines might be far better than the first group.Here's a vaccine that just published their results 2 days ago. Global study, 30,000 participants. Tested against all the latest variants and results are very impressive. Against ALL variants, 83% efficacy against moderate to severe and 100% efficacy against hospitalization and death. 

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/covid-19-vaccine-developed-by-clover-biopharmaceuticals-using-dynavaxs-cpg-1018-adjuvant-meets-primary-and-secondary-efficacy-endpoints-in-global-phase-23-trial-301382650.html 

Also over 80 therapeutics in trial. That is where the governments should have focused their energies on but a potential $500 Billion payday buys lots of scientists, politicians and reporters. There are multiple drugs in final stages of testing that cut the risk of death by 80-100%. Also cut the days spent in hospital by over 50%. Also drugs that reverse long term Covid symptoms. Unfortunately many small drug companies (bio-techs) don't have the financial or operational abilities to see their drugs (molecules) through to successful rollout. This is where governments should direct their resources to help these companies. Get Covid, take an pill and 2-3 days later you're OK with no hospital visit necessary. 

Interesting. Particular circles have been pushing the ideals of therapeutics for several months now. 

Naturally, they become shut out as it applies to mass attention.

Some of the leading experts are starting to pay attention, though. 

[JerseyBKK]

3 hours ago, Rain said:

Interesting. Particular circles have been pushing the ideals of therapeutics for several months now. 

Naturally, they become shut out as it applies to mass attention.

Some of the leading experts are starting to pay attention, though. 

One of the conditions necessary for the vaccine manufacturers to get emergency approval for their vaccines was that no other treatment existed to control the disease. Now that Pfizer has full approval, expect them to start pushing to get some therapeutics approved. If other meds are available to control Covid, then any other vaccine manufacturers will have to go the full traditional approval route instead of emergency approval.

 

There are over 120 different vaccines in trial right now. Lots of competition coming and some of the newer vaccines seems to be much better than the first group.

[Rain]

10 hours ago, JerseyBKK said:

One of the conditions necessary for the vaccine manufacturers to get emergency approval for their vaccines was that no other treatment existed to control the disease. Now that Pfizer has full approval, expect them to start pushing to get some therapeutics approved. If other meds are available to control Covid, then any other vaccine manufacturers will have to go the full traditional approval route instead of emergency approval.

There are over 120 different vaccines in trial right now. Lots of competition coming and some of the newer vaccines seems to be much better than the first group.

Big big business and big big control.

[Convert54]

31 minutes ago, Rain said:

Big big business and big big control.

Sad truth. The Bisness behind Pfizer were astute enough to decline Trump's offer of  federal funding in preference to "pre orders" on a major scale thus averting any loose strings attached to an outcome they obviously were already confident in producing. Competitors such as Moderna who accepted US Federal  funding have been relegated to runner up status despite apparently having an equally effective product .

Very strange ! Is it?

 

 

[WaccineChinawatiiRaporn]

On 9/23/2021 at 8:51 AM, BainaiThai said:

My apologies if this has already been posted...This is an incredibly powerful statement from where we were, where we are and where we are going...Very few opinions (and they are from very credible sources) and lots of facts.  

https://wtop.com/coronavirus/2021/09/qa-johns-hopkins-doctor-discusses-importance-of-nuance-when-dealing-with-covid-19/

That was very good, thanks for posting.

[LoongFred]

On 9/23/2021 at 10:56 PM, JerseyBKK said:

This is an interview between a reporter and a surgical oncologist. It's an opinion piece. 

Therapeutics are what will stop Covid, not vaccines and definitely not the current vaccines which are losing efficacy every day. The newer vaccines might be far better than the first group.Here's a vaccine that just published their results 2 days ago. Global study, 30,000 participants. Tested against all the latest variants and results are very impressive. Against ALL variants, 83% efficacy against moderate to severe and 100% efficacy against hospitalization and death. 

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/covid-19-vaccine-developed-by-clover-biopharmaceuticals-using-dynavaxs-cpg-1018-adjuvant-meets-primary-and-secondary-efficacy-endpoints-in-global-phase-23-trial-301382650.html 

Also over 80 therapeutics in trial. That is where the governments should have focused their energies on but a potential $500 Billion payday buys lots of scientists, politicians and reporters. There are multiple drugs in final stages of testing that cut the risk of death by 80-100%. Also cut the days spent in hospital by over 50%. Also drugs that reverse long term Covid symptoms. Unfortunately many small drug companies (bio-techs) don't have the financial or operational abilities to see their drugs (molecules) through to successful rollout. This is where governments should direct their resources to help these companies. Get Covid, take an pill and 2-3 days later you're OK with no hospital visit necessary. 

The US FDA is a big hurdle to get over. They drag their feet and overanalyze data. I'm all for safety of medications but not having treatment available in a timely manner isn't about saving lives. Add that to the costs associated with the trials and other costs, only big pharma is left to compete. The FDA does us all harm by their unnecessary delays and demands.

If you look back at the AIDS cricis, it was available treatments that changed things not vaccines. BTW I believe, it was Fausi who was the AIDS vaccine czar.

I'm not a anti-covid vaccine person and have received my two shots. Vaccines along with therapeutics.

[JerseyBKK]

2 hours ago, LoongFred said:

The US FDA is a big hurdle to get over. They drag their feet and overanalyze data. I'm all for safety of medications but not having treatment available in a timely manner isn't about saving lives. Add that to the costs associated with the trials and other costs, only big pharma is left to compete. The FDA does us all harm by their unnecessary delays and demands.

If you look back at the AIDS cricis, it was available treatments that changed things not vaccines. BTW I believe, it was Fausi who was the AIDS vaccine czar.

I'm not a anti-covid vaccine person and have received my two shots. Vaccines along with therapeutics.

Fauci was the AIDS vaccine czar and many believe he obstructed the search for meds to control AIDS. He also was deeply opposed to the US banning "gain of function" research and subsequently illegally funded that research in Wuhan.  Even liberal news sources have run stories about Fauci exposing him. But to Covidian Cultists he is one of their high priests who only speaks the truth about the SCIENCE behind the pandemic.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/fauci-argued-benefits-of-gain-of-function-research-outweighed-pandemic-risk-in-2012-paper/ar-AAKuFrH

https://www.newsweek.com/fauci-untruthful-congress-wuhan-lab-research-documents-show-gain-function-1627351

https://nypost.com/2021/09/07/wuhan-lab-documents-show-fauci-untruthful-about-research-critics/

Edited September 25, 2021 by Smithydog
Removed highly derogatory remark/comparison of person.

[BlueSphinx]

4 hours ago, JerseyBKK said:

Fauci was the AIDS vaccine czar and many believe he obstructed the search for meds to control AIDS. He also was deeply opposed to the US banning "gain of function" research and subsequently illegally funded that research in Wuhan. Even liberal news sources have run stories exposing Fauci. But to Covidian Cultists he is one of their high priests who only speaks the truth about the SCIENCE behind the pandemic.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/fauci-argued-benefits-of-gain-of-function-research-outweighed-pandemic-risk-in-2012-paper/ar-AAKuFrH

https://www.newsweek.com/fauci-untruthful-congress-wuhan-lab-research-documents-show-gain-function-1627351

https://nypost.com/2021/09/07/wuhan-lab-documents-show-fauci-untruthful-about-research-critics/

 

Attached a LINK to an article delving into the psyche of false Covid-Pope Anthony Fauci.  Kirsten Mortensen makes an interesting case based on his track-record with previous global health-threats like AIDS and Ebola, that the guy may be suffering from the Munchausen by Proxy syndrome, but on a societal scale.  Sounds far-fetched but there is no doubt that he is an 'attention whore' and craves for Moments of Glory during times of crises.  The UK readers will also recognize his UK counterpart Neil Ferguson in the description of the syndrome...

Here the link > https://kirstenmortensen.com/munchausen-syndrome-by-proxy-on-a-societal-scale/ and full-article also attached as PDF.

Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy…on a societal scale, by Kirsten Mortensen - 17 Sept 2021.pdf

 

Edited September 25, 2021 by Smithydog
Quote edited to words that have been edited out of original post.

[GMoney2312]

1 hour ago, BlueSphinx said:

Attached a LINK to an article delving into the psyche of false Covid-Pope Anthony Fauci.

Nicely done!

[Yinn]

Thai university and medical study research green chiretta “Fah Talai Jone”  (Andrographis paniculata) and fingerroot (Boesenbergia rotunda). Good result. 
Some farang mock and critical. Because Thai do it. 
 

Another one from USA, Trump promote is “bleach”. 
 

I prefer Thai one. 
up to you.