Anti-Vaxxers who died (regretfully or not) from Covid

[MrStretch]

It seemed only balanced that since certain members here pile on about how right anti-vaxxers are and (wrongly or rightly) how many people have debilitating after effects or even death from the vaccine, that we note those others that advocated against or refused the vaccine and paid the price.

Let's start with a nurse in Idaho.

 

An Idaho nurse who told her family not to get vaccinated even as her mother was in a coma from COVID-19 has died of the disease

 

An Idaho nurse who told her family not to get vaccinated even as her mother was in a coma caused by COVID-19 has died of the disease, her brother told CNN.

Natalie Rise had worked as a registered nurse and a home healthcare worker before staying home with her two special-needs twins, her brother, Daryl Rise, told CNN.

Daryl Rise told the news outlet that his sister didn't think there had been studies conducted on the vaccines. She told her family not to get vaccinated, he said, even as her mother was lying in a coma.

"I think it was from misinformation, I think it was falling into negative social media and bloggers, YouTubers," Rise told CNN.

The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was fully approved by the Food and Drug Administration on August 23, after millions of people had already received both doses of the two-dose shot. About 181 million Americans have been fully vaccinated against the coronavirus, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

About 40% of people in Idaho have been fully vaccinated, CNN reported. Earlier this month, Idaho hospitals activated crisis protocol and began rationing care due to an increase in COVID cases caused by the Delta variant.

"Crisis standards of care is a last resort. It means we have exhausted our resources to the point that our healthcare systems are unable to provide the treatment and care we expect,"Idaho Department of Health and Welfare Director Dave Jeppesen said in a September 7 statement. "This is a decision I was fervently hoping to avoid. The best tools we have to turn this around is for more people to get vaccinated and to wear masks indoors and in outdoor crowded public places."

Daryl Rise said he got vaccinated the day after his sister died. He said his mother, who is recovering, is still undecided about the vaccine.

"It was the hardest decision of my life, you know, am I doing right by God? Am I doing right by Natalie?" he told CNN. "And I got it out of fear."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/idaho-nurse-told-her-family-151051192.html

 

 

[Hamosity]

Here’s several  examples:

 

“Phil Valentine, a prominent Tennessee rightwing talk radio host, had released a song called Vaxman, an anti-Covid vaccination ditty based on the Beatles track Taxman.

Marc Bernier, a host in Daytona Beach, Florida, had declared himself “Mr Anti-Vax”. Dick Farrel, also from Florida, urged his listeners not to get vaccinated, and Jimmy DeYoung asked on air whether the vaccine could be a “form of government control of the people”.

All four men died in August of coronavirus. A fifth conservative radio host, Bob Enyart, died on 13 September, weeks after he told his listeners to boycott vaccines that were “immorally developed”.

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/21/anti-vax-radio-hosts-dying-covid

 

 

[Rain]

Just less of them in the world. Reflective of their nasty and disconnected culture.

Can only be beneficial in the long run.

[palooka]

3 hours ago, Hamosity said:

Here’s several  examples:

“Phil Valentine, a prominent Tennessee rightwing talk radio host, had released a song called Vaxman, an anti-Covid vaccination ditty based on the Beatles track Taxman.

Marc Bernier, a host in Daytona Beach, Florida, had declared himself “Mr Anti-Vax”. Dick Farrel, also from Florida, urged his listeners not to get vaccinated, and Jimmy DeYoung asked on air whether the vaccine could be a “form of government control of the people”.

All four men died in August of coronavirus. A fifth conservative radio host, Bob Enyart, died on 13 September, weeks after he told his listeners to boycott vaccines that were “immorally developed”.

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/21/anti-vax-radio-hosts-dying-covid

Conspiracy theorists will run wild with this.

[MrStretch]

 

Mother-of-four who proudly posted that she was 'unmasked, unmuzzled, and unvaccinated' dies of COVID-19 at age 40

 

A California mother-of-four who was outspoken against vaccines and masks has died of COVID-19.

Kristen Lowery, 40, from Escalon, California, 'unexpectedly' passed away on September 15th, according to a GoFundMe page raising money for her funeral expenses.

In screenshots taken from Facebook, family members say she lost her battle against COVID-19 — after frequently posting content protesting vaccines and labeling herself 'unmasked and unmuzzled' and a 'free thinker.'

 

Lowery's Facebook profile has since been set to private, but screenshots have been posted on Reddit and other sites.

Lowery had made use of political borders for her profile photos, including one reading 'Unmasked, unmuzzled, unvaccinated, unafraid. Together we win.'

She also appears to have gone to some sort of protest or anti-vaccine event holding a sign reading 'Give voice to the vaccine injured.' In the photo, she also wore a shirt proclaiming herself to be an 'ex-vaxxer' and reading: 'I trusted them. Never again.' 

Yet another photo was lined with a border reading 'Moms for Liberty.' Lowery was mother to four school-age children, Tayden, McKenna, Ella, and Ryenn. 

 

But earlier this month, her sister, Cassie, wrote on Facebook that Lowery was 'in the hospital fighting for her life against Covid and pneumonia.

'My sister has a long life left. We need you here, sissy. Your kids love and miss you so much. Please don't give up,' she wrote.

She also warned that this wasn't 'political' and she was uninterested in hearing anyone's opinions on vaccines.

Then, last week, two family members posted on Facebbok that Lowery 'died from covid,' with her aunt mourning that her 'heart is breaking for her 4 kids.'

'So many people need her here, but God must have special plans for her in heaven,' her aunt wrote. 

 

On a GoFundMe page that has raised over $11,000 for her funeral, a loved one also shared the new, which is 'devastating to everyone that knew her.'

'Kristen was a beautiful and amazing woman but more than that she was a phenomenal mother who always, ALWAYS put her children first,' she wrote.

'She lived for her children (Tayden, McKenna, Ella, and Ryenn) and loved being their mother more than anything in her life. 

'She was full of life and loved her friends and family fiercely. She was the kind of person that even if she didn't have anything she would give the shirt off of her back to anyone in need. She was everything that was good and kind. 

'Her passing leaves a big hole in many of our lives and she will never be forgotten but will be greatly missed,' reads the page.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10009793/Mother-four-unmasked-unmuzzled-unvaccinated-dies-COVID-19-age-40.html

 

 

 

 

 

[gummy]

21 minutes ago, MrStretch said:

Mother-of-four who proudly posted that she was 'unmasked, unmuzzled, and unvaccinated' dies of COVID-19 at age 40

A California mother-of-four who was outspoken against vaccines and masks has died of COVID-19.

Kristen Lowery, 40, from Escalon, California, 'unexpectedly' passed away on September 15th, according to a GoFundMe page raising money for her funeral expenses.

In screenshots taken from Facebook, family members say she lost her battle against COVID-19 — after frequently posting content protesting vaccines and labeling herself 'unmasked and unmuzzled' and a 'free thinker.'

Lowery's Facebook profile has since been set to private, but screenshots have been posted on Reddit and other sites.

Lowery had made use of political borders for her profile photos, including one reading 'Unmasked, unmuzzled, unvaccinated, unafraid. Together we win.'

She also appears to have gone to some sort of protest or anti-vaccine event holding a sign reading 'Give voice to the vaccine injured.' In the photo, she also wore a shirt proclaiming herself to be an 'ex-vaxxer' and reading: 'I trusted them. Never again.' 

Yet another photo was lined with a border reading 'Moms for Liberty.' Lowery was mother to four school-age children, Tayden, McKenna, Ella, and Ryenn. 

But earlier this month, her sister, Cassie, wrote on Facebook that Lowery was 'in the hospital fighting for her life against Covid and pneumonia.

'My sister has a long life left. We need you here, sissy. Your kids love and miss you so much. Please don't give up,' she wrote.

She also warned that this wasn't 'political' and she was uninterested in hearing anyone's opinions on vaccines.

Then, last week, two family members posted on Facebbok that Lowery 'died from covid,' with her aunt mourning that her 'heart is breaking for her 4 kids.'

'So many people need her here, but God must have special plans for her in heaven,' her aunt wrote. 

On a GoFundMe page that has raised over $11,000 for her funeral, a loved one also shared the new, which is 'devastating to everyone that knew her.'

'Kristen was a beautiful and amazing woman but more than that she was a phenomenal mother who always, ALWAYS put her children first,' she wrote.

'She lived for her children (Tayden, McKenna, Ella, and Ryenn) and loved being their mother more than anything in her life. 

'She was full of life and loved her friends and family fiercely. She was the kind of person that even if she didn't have anything she would give the shirt off of her back to anyone in need. She was everything that was good and kind. 

'Her passing leaves a big hole in many of our lives and she will never be forgotten but will be greatly missed,' reads the page.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10009793/Mother-four-unmasked-unmuzzled-unvaccinated-dies-COVID-19-age-40.html

Guess as tragic as that is for the children to lose a Mother, it can be summed up in one word perhaps:-   Karma

[Faz]

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[Americanbob]

I find it interesting how many of you find it funny, karma, or even enjoy seeing that people have died an uncomfortable death. Regardless of their beliefs. Plenty of young men have met their demise overseas in wars they didn't agree with in places we now hardly remember.

It's very low class indeed gentlemen.

[Marc26]

12 minutes ago, Americanbob said:

I find it interesting how many of you find it funny, karma, or even enjoy seeing that people have died an uncomfortable death. Regardless of their beliefs. Plenty of young men have met their demise overseas in wars they didn't agree with in places we now hardly remember.

It's very low class indeed gentlemen.

I think it's a complex subject....

I don't feel the need to gloat about anyone's death

But it all depends on what type of anti-vaxxer they were. 

I disagree with people not taking the vaccine but I believe it's their right not to and actually can understand some of their concerns.

 

But if you are an anti-vaxxer harrassing and threatening healthcare workers, school boards, etc, it's hard for me to have sympathy for you.........

[GMoney2312]

20 hours ago, gummy said:

Guess as tragic as that is for the children to lose a Mother, it can be summed up in one word perhaps:-   Karma

And a make believe word at that.

[LoongFred]

Referencing an article from a UK newpaper about what happens in California seem wierd. California is like a police state, with lockdowns, mask and vaccine mandates, etc. It might be true but doesn't seem right. Did you do a search on LA Times ?

[LoongFred]

8 hours ago, Marc26 said:

I think it's a complex subject....

I don't feel the need to gloat about anyone's death

But it all depends on what type of anti-vaxxer they were. 

I disagree with people not taking the vaccine but I believe it's their right not to and actually can understand some of their concerns.

But if you are an anti-vaxxer harrassing and threatening healthcare workers, school boards, etc, it's hard for me to have sympathy for you.........

Total agreement! Its up to each individual. However, restriction on non vaxers might apply to protect others.

[MrStretch]

9 hours ago, Americanbob said:

It's very low class indeed gentlemen.

I don't find the death of anyone funny, and please don't attribute such to me without proof.

I find it sad that there is a prophylaxis available that people rail and shout about as if the very devil had offered it to them, and then they die of the very disease they say doesn't exist, or they fail to avoid the disease by denying the best protection science and society offers.

This thread was started to throw the "mah freedum" people a view that was in stark contrast by letting them see the reality of what their actions can result in.

I also lament those that have died in wars or conflicts, regardless of whether they supported them or not.  When you are huddling next to a soldier and hear the relentless shooting around you, you can experience an empathy that is most profound.  I hate war and conflict, but I honor those who died with and for honor.

56 minutes ago, LoongFred said:

Referencing an article from a UK newpaper about what happens in California seem wierd. California is like a police state, with lockdowns, mask and vaccine mandates, etc. It might be true but doesn't seem right. Did you do a search on LA Times ?

Modesto, California close enough for you?

40-year-old Escalon mother who vocally opposed vaccination, masks dies from COVID-19

https://www.modbee.com/news/coronavirus/article254412519.html

 

[Hamosity]

4 minutes ago, MrStretch said:

I don't find the death of anyone funny, and please don't attribute such to me without proof.

I find it sad that there is a prophylaxis available that people rail and shout about as if the very devil had offered it to them, and then they die of the very disease they say doesn't exist, or they fail to avoid the disease by denying the best protection science and society offers.

This thread was started to throw the "mah freedum" people a view that was in stark contrast by letting them see the reality of what their actions can result in.

I also lament those that have died in wars or conflicts, regardless of whether they supported them or not.  When you are huddling next to a soldier and hear the relentless shooting around you, you can experience an empathy that is most profound.  I hate war and conflict, but I honor those who died with and for honor.

Well said, couldn't agree more, on all your points.

[BlueSphinx]

37 minutes ago, MrStretch said:

I don't find the death of anyone funny, and please don't attribute such to me without proof.

I find it sad that there is a prophylaxis available that people rail and shout about as if the very devil had offered it to them, and then they die of the very disease they say doesn't exist, or they fail to avoid the disease by denying the best protection science and society offers.

This thread was started to throw the "mah freedum" people a view that was in stark contrast by letting them see the reality of what their actions can result in.

Like yourself, I don't find the death of anyone funny... 

But then you go on painting those that have genuine concerns about the safety of the rushed covid-vaccines, as covid-deniers, avoiding the 'best protection science and society offers' and 'blind to reality'.  Don't you see how disingenuous that is?

#1 - The large majority of the 'vaccine hesitant' are NOT denying the disease, but they are wary about the downsides of that pushed coerced vaccine-solution.  Taking the vaccine should be up to the individual whether for his individual case the benefits outweigh the risks.   For the elderly with co-morbidities and those in the high-risk categories, the benefits might well outweigh the risks.  But pushing it on healthy young people that have ZERO risk to succumb from the disease is  downright criminal.

#2 - You are not mentioning them, but are you denying the possible grave adverse effects of the covid-vaccines?  And the fact that their protection is waning after the 2-3 month peak-protection, triggering the need for continual vaccine-boosters?  And the fact that even when vaccinated you can still catch covid and spread the disease (with the vaccinated becoming unwitting super-spreaders as the vax suppresses their symptoms)?  I could go on...

#3 - Blind to reality are those that REFUSE to consider ALL the facts.  That denial-stance is often the result of a deep-down fear that they might have taken the wrong decision by getting jabbed (relentlessly pushed by the mainstream media propaganda).  

[LoongFred]

1 hour ago, MrStretch said:

I don't find the death of anyone funny, and please don't attribute such to me without proof.

I find it sad that there is a prophylaxis available that people rail and shout about as if the very devil had offered it to them, and then they die of the very disease they say doesn't exist, or they fail to avoid the disease by denying the best protection science and society offers.

This thread was started to throw the "mah freedum" people a view that was in stark contrast by letting them see the reality of what their actions can result in.

I also lament those that have died in wars or conflicts, regardless of whether they supported them or not.  When you are huddling next to a soldier and hear the relentless shooting around you, you can experience an empathy that is most profound.  I hate war and conflict, but I honor those who died with and for honor.

Modesto, California close enough for you?

40-year-old Escalon mother who vocally opposed vaccination, masks dies from COVID-19

https://www.modbee.com/news/coronavirus/article254412519.html

Oh, I know the bee but it's too woke for me to read.

[MrStretch]

6 minutes ago, BlueSphinx said:

'best protection science and society offers' and 'blind to reality'.  Don't you see how disingenuous that is?

Does science or society offer a better protection against Covid 19 than the vaccines produced so far? No

7 minutes ago, BlueSphinx said:

The large majority of the 'vaccine hesitant' are NOT denying the disease,

I never made that claim.

7 minutes ago, BlueSphinx said:

You are not mentioning them, but are you denying the possible grave adverse effects of the covid-vaccines?

I am not speaking of any "grave adverse effects", I am only pointing out people that advocated against the vaccine, perhaps for the reasons you think are valid, and died from it.  Nothing more.

Again, you are trying to put words in my mouth.  I haven't said anything about that, in fact, I considered all of the "facts", adverse reactions, deaths, side effects, etc. and I chose to vaccinate.  That's my choice.

These people took another path, and all I've done is shared their stories.  Nothing more.  You want to debate the walls, Sphinx, go ahead.  I won't waste anymore breath or keyboard time on you.

 

6 minutes ago, LoongFred said:

Oh, I know the bee but it's too woke for me to read.

 

Yes, media is "too woke" or "fake news" when they present information we don't wish to agree with.  There's nothing "woke" about this story.  The woman was well-known for her anti-vax status and she died of Covid 19.  That's it.

 

 

[BlueSphinx]

5 minutes ago, MrStretch said:

Does science or society offer a better protection against Covid 19 than the vaccines produced so far? No

Does science or society offer a better protection against Covid 19 than the vaccines produced so far? Yes

[LoongFred]

17 minutes ago, MrStretch said:

Does science or society offer a better protection against Covid 19 than the vaccines produced so far? No

I never made that claim.

I am not speaking of any "grave adverse effects", I am only pointing out people that advocated against the vaccine, perhaps for the reasons you think are valid, and died from it.  Nothing more.

Again, you are trying to put words in my mouth.  I haven't said anything about that, in fact, I considered all of the "facts", adverse reactions, deaths, side effects, etc. and I chose to vaccinate.  That's my choice.

These people took another path, and all I've done is shared their stories.  Nothing more.  You want to debate the walls, Sphinx, go ahead.  I won't waste anymore breath or keyboard time on you.

Yes, media is "too woke" or "fake news" when they present information we don't wish to agree with.  There's nothing "woke" about this story.  The woman was well-known for her anti-vax status and she died of Covid 19.  That's it.

My point is the B is very woke. Also, one person's demise, although tragic, is only antidotal evidence. Look at the big picture, and harms caused by lock downs closing businesses etc. 

[ConsoleCowboy]

so what we can all post propaganda, I could post the same thing but "Vaccers who died from the vaccine and regret taking the vaccine", what's the point other then spreading fear ?

[palooka]

11 hours ago, Americanbob said:

I find it interesting how many of you find it funny, karma, or even enjoy seeing that people have died an uncomfortable death. Regardless of their beliefs. Plenty of young men have met their demise overseas in wars they didn't agree with in places we now hardly remember.

It's very low class indeed gentlemen.

I've read and re read all the posts prior to yours and failed to find a post that mentions this ladys demise as funny. Karma yes, is your interpretation of the word karma = funny,joke, ha hah?

 

karma

[ˈkɑːmə, ˈkəːmə]

 

NOUN

1. (in Hinduism and Buddhism) the sum of a person's actions in this and previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future existences.

   synonyms:

   fate · destiny · fortune · providence · the stars · God's will · what is written in the stars · one's doom · one's portion · one's lot · one's lot in life · predestination · preordination · predetermination · what is to come · the writing on the wall · luck · chance · one's dole · predestiny

   • informal
     good or bad luck, viewed as resulting from one's actions.
     synonyms:

     fortune · fate · destiny · lot · stars · what is written in the stars · kismet · fortuity · serendipity · chance · accident · a twist of fate · contingency · circumstances

 

[MrStretch]

 

Doctor who has lost over 100 patients to covid says some deny virus from their death beds: 'I don't believe you'

Andrea Salcedo / Fri, September 24, 2021, 7:31 PM

Matthew Trunsky is used to people being angry at him.

As a pulmonologist and director of the palliative care unit at a Beaumont Health hospital in southeastern Michigan, Trunsky sees some of the facility's sickest patients and is often the bearer of bad news.

He gets it. No one is prepared to hear their loved one is dying.

But when a well-regarded intensive care unit nurse told him during a recent shift that the wife of an unvaccinated covid patient had berated her when she informed the woman of her husband's deteriorating condition, Trunsky, who has lost more than 100 patients to the coronavirus, reached his breaking point.

When he got home that evening, he made himself a sandwich and opened Facebook.

Still sporting his black scrubs, he began to vent. He wrote about a critically ill patient who disputed his covid-19 diagnosis. Another threatened to call his lawyer if he wasn't given ivermectin, an anti-parasite drug that is not approved for treating covid. A third, Trunsky wrote, told the doctor they would rather die than take one of the vaccines.

One demanded a different doctor, "I don't believe you," he told the physician.

The physician added: "Of course the answer was to have been vaccinated - but they were not and now they're angry at the medical community for their failure."

Trunsky's post detailing his interactions with eight covid patients and their relatives highlights the resistance and mistreatment some health care workers across the U.S. face while caring for patients who have put off or declined getting vaccinated. Trunsky estimates that nine out of every 10 covid patients he treats are unvaccinated.

His post - a plea for people to get vaccinated - also reveals the physical and emotional toll the pandemic has had on health care workers, who have been on the front lines for over a year and a half. Roughly 3 out of 10 have considered leaving the profession, according to a Washington Post-Kaiser Family Foundation poll, and about 6 in 10 say stress from the pandemic has harmed their mental health.

Some doctors are refusing to treat unvaccinated patients. Last month, an Alabama physician posed beside a sign announcing he would not treat any unvaccinated patients as of Oct. 1. Earlier this month, a Florida doctor sent a letter to her patients informing them that she would not be treating any unvaccinated patients in person after Sept. 15.

Trunsky, 55, empathizes with other burned-out medical workers.

"We are physically tired as a whole, me included, and we are emotionally exhausted . . . I don't think a week goes by that I don't see someone pass away," he told The Post.

Early into the pandemic, Trunsky spent about four hours a day calling patients' families to update them on their loved ones' status. Some of those conversations still affect him, like the time he called a woman to share the news that her father had died. "I'm sorry I can't take your call right now‚" he recalled her telling him. "We're burying my mother."

Another time, when calling a woman to report her brother was dying, the woman - before Trunsky said anything - answered with, "Look, my mother died, my father died, my brother died and I don't want any bad news."

But what makes him sadder, he told The Post, "are the ones I don't remember." He has lost too many patients during the global pandemic to recall them all.

Throughout most of 2020, Trunsky and his staff faced surge after surge of coronavirus patients. So when the Food and Drug Administration authorized the first vaccine last December, Trunsky said morale and hope were restored at his hospital. That did not last long, though. As vaccination rates plateaued and the highly contagious delta variant began to spread, hospital beds began filling back up.

Trunsky said patients he sees give different reasons for not taking one of the vaccines. Some, he said, regret the decision - like a nursing mother who said she was concerned about how a vaccine might affect her newborn baby. Others, Trunsky said, remain convinced they made the right choice - even on their death beds.

Whatever their reasons, he told The Post, "they are paying the price, and they are getting mad at us."

And while he said it is easier to deal with appreciative patients than those threatening to sue if he will not give them ivermectin, he remains committed to treating anyone battling covid with the same level of care.

As for those he wrote about in his Facebook post after the tough shift earlier this month, six out of the eight have since died, he said.

Two, including the husband of the woman who berated the ICU nurse, remain in critical condition.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/doctor-lost-over-100-patients-123132727.html

[BlueSphinx]

1 hour ago, MrStretch said:

Doctor who has lost over 100 patients to covid says some deny virus from their death beds: 'I don't believe you' ...

Story needs some counter-balance > https://www.vaxtestimonies.org/en/

[MrStretch]

How in any universe that works on logic does that story need "counter-balance".

It's a factual account of a physician and his experiences.  How does that need "counter-balance"?

It doesn't.

[BlueSphinx]

1 hour ago, MrStretch said:

How in any universe that works on logic does that story need "counter-balance".

It's a factual account of a physician and his experiences.  How does that need "counter-balance"?

It doesn't.

In my universe that fear-mongering physician-account to convince people 'to take the jab' needs some serious counter-balance. It does.