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Can I renew my son's Thai passport if my wife is abroad?
Anyway, here my rephrased question to ChatGPT and its response: QUESTION > I will be travelling from Thailand to France with my 12 year-old son in July, for a few weeks. My son's Thai passport expired last year (we simply completely forgot about it), but his French passport is valid. I assume that it will be no problem to leave and return to Thailand on an expired Thai passport, provided the French one is valid. Is my assumption correct? Obviously once back in Thailand, I will renew my son's Thai passport which is difficult at the moment as his mother is already in France, but the three of us will come back to Thailand after our holidays in France. RESPONSE by ChatGPT > Thanks for explaining the situation — here's a breakdown of your assumptions and what the regulations generally say, along with some guidance for your case: Key Facts: Your son has dual citizenship (Thai and French). His French passport is valid. His Thai passport is expired. He will travel from Thailand to France in July, and return a few weeks later. His mother is already in France, and the whole family will return to Thailand together. Can He Leave Thailand With an Expired Thai Passport? Short answer: Yes, but only if Thai immigration accepts that he is using his French citizenship to depart and does not require an exit on a Thai passport for Thai citizens. However, Thai citizens are legally required to enter and exit Thailand using a Thai passport, even if they hold another nationality. That said, Thai immigration officers sometimes allow dual nationals to exit on a foreign passport if the Thai passport is lost, expired, or unavailable and especially if it's a minor traveling with a parent — but this is at their discretion and can be unpredictable. Can He Re-enter Thailand Without a Valid Thai Passport? This is trickier. Thai citizens are expected to re-enter Thailand on a Thai passport. Using a foreign passport (like the French one) to re-enter can raise issues — especially if Thai immigration sees the Thai nationality in the system and notices the expired Thai passport. There is a risk that they may require a valid Thai passport or a temporary travel document (like a Thai "Certificate of Identity") before boarding the return flight or upon arrival. Recommended Steps to Avoid Trouble: Option 1: Renew Thai Passport Before Travel (ideal) If there's any way to expedite the passport renewal before July — even via the Ministry of Foreign Affairs or with special permission due to family circumstances — that’s the safest route. Option 2: Apply for a Thai “Certificate of Identity” (CI) in France If you can't renew before leaving Thailand: Once in France, visit a Thai embassy or consulate (e.g., in Paris). Apply for a Certificate of Identity, which is a temporary document that allows Thai citizens to re-enter Thailand. This is commonly issued to Thai citizens abroad who lost or have an expired passport. Option 3: Prepare to Show Proof of Thai Citizenship If attempting to leave Thailand on the French passport: Bring a copy of the expired Thai passport. Have your son's Thai birth certificate and house registration (ทะเบียนบ้าน) if available. Be prepared to explain the situation to immigration, ideally in Thai if possible. -
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Can I renew my son's Thai passport if my wife is abroad?
Hi Rattles, I used ChatGPT to ask your questions > https://chatgpt.com/ (no need to log in) But I had to rephrase it, because when using your original text, ChatGPT in its response did not take your wife not in Thailand at the moment into consideration when answering. Before asking ChatGPT I was from some opinion as yourself that it should not be any problem, due to your son being a minor accompanied by one of his parents, and having dual citizenship with his French passport being valid. However, ChatGPT's response raises some caveats. Note that ChatGPT is not 'omni-scient' and when challenged by facts that you know are correct, can change its advise/recommendation (while apologizing). But it might be helpful, so I post my rephrased question and ChatGPT's response below. Note: In order to get clear responses it is recommended to start a 'conversation' with ChatGPT, asking only 1 question first, and then based on the system's response ask additional questions. That might also result in ChatGPT changing/refining its initial response based on the additonal question or information you provide. -
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Can I renew my son's Thai passport if my wife is abroad?
I will be travelling from Thailand to France with my 12 year-old son in July, for a few weeks. My Thai wife is already there and will not be coming back to Thailand in the meantime. My son's Thai passport expired last year (we simply completely forgot about it), but his French passport is valid. I am thinking of not doing anything, based on the assumption that it will be no problem to leave and return to Thailand on an expired Thai passport, provided the French one is valid. Is my assumption correct? In any case, if I were to renew his Thai passport myself without my wife being present, is this easily done, or would she need to provide some paperwork such as an authorisation/proxy obtained from the Thai embassy in Paris? (This is an avenue I would rather avoid if possible). Thanks in advance for your insights. -
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