News Forum - Covid UPDATE Saturday: 261 Covid-related deaths, news briefs

[Bob20]

16 hours ago, Ronaldus said:

Only 0.5 % dies of covid and the CPR tests are not 100%

 

16 hours ago, Ronaldus said:

So how many people in thailand committed suicide. Because they lost everything. And vaccinated people still get covid. The numbers will go down. Lockdowns or not

Daily deaths are around 250.

You quote the figure of 0.5%. That means that around 2-4 weeks ago, there were approx. 50.000 daily positive case. However, the reported number was never that high.

Either more tests need to be done. Then we know on the day what the situation is.

Or we work out the number from the reported deaths over time, as daily numbers fluctuate too much to draw conclusions.

But, for now, there is no proof that numbers are going down at all.

[Ronaldus]

22 minutes ago, Bob20 said:

Funny how critics demand science for everything Covid related but vent personal opinions without science when they wish to contradict.

 

[Bob20]

2 minutes ago, Ronaldus said:

 

I note that you're still giving opinion and not facts...

Do some reading.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-rna-idUSL1N2LS27P

[Ronaldus]

22 minutes ago, Bob20 said:

I note that you're still giving opinion and not facts...

Do some reading.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-rna-idUSL1N2LS27P

Here are some more facts https://rumble.com/vldaex-vaxxed-patients-blood-examined-horrific-findings-revealed-by-german-physici.html

[Ronaldus]

25 minutes ago, Bob20 said:

I note that you're still giving opinion and not facts...

Do some reading.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-rna-idUSL1N2LS27P

Here are some facts https://rumble.com/vldaex-vaxxed-patients-blood-examined-horrific-findings-revealed-by-german-physici.html

Hope you be OK with this Gen therapy jab you be my lap rat lol

[Bob20]

4 minutes ago, Ronaldus said:

Here are some facts https://rumble.com/vldaex-vaxxed-patients-blood-examined-horrific-findings-revealed-by-german-physici.html

Hope you be OK with this Gen therapy jab you be my lap rat lol

 

You clearly have no understanding of science.

You are entitled to your opinion, same as people who think the earth is flat.

But if you get your "news" from brandnewtube and rumble etc. and view that scientifically unsupported and one-off nonsense as facts, there's something seriously wrong.

[BlueSphinx]

6 minutes ago, Bob20 said:

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But if you get your "news" from brandnewtube and rumble etc. and view that scientifically unsupported and one-off nonsense as facts, there's something seriously wrong.

Pre this covid-19 media horror-show, I would never have dreamed to watch content on sites like Bitchute, Rumble, etc. But many scientists have been de-platformed for raising serious factual objections against the 'common narrative' and unless they have the knowledge/support to start their own web-site, they have no choice but to have their message heard on these often rogue 'free' channels. 

It's all part of silencing REAL scientific debate.  First by altering (actually falsifying) the curricula of those that do not sing to the same tune as what Big Pharma, CDC and WHO dictate to the mainstream-media.  The amazing sudden transformations from reputed scientist to fraudulent quack on Wikipedia are legio.  And then by deleting the content they post as a prelude to de-platforming them when they persist, leaving them no choice but to revert to those channels that do accept their content.

If you have never heard of scientists like dr Robert Malone, dr Michael Yeadon, prof dr Sucharit Bhakdi, dr Roger Hodkinson, dr Byram Bridle, and so many others, but do a Google search, you will get 20 'fact-check' reports by anonymous fact-checkers with an agenda trying to convince you that these scientists do not  have any credibility at all.  If you persist and look on Wikipedia for their qualifications > same story.  And seeing that you have to access sites like Bitchute or Rumble to hear their message, you will most probably not do the effort to hear their consistent message backed up every day with more factual evidence (this in contrast with the flip-flops of the 'credible' - hahaha - sources like Faucy, Walinsky, and other totally compromised hand-puppets).  

[Bob20]

34 minutes ago, BlueSphinx said:

Pre this covid-19 media horror-show, I would never have dreamed to watch content on sites like Bitchute, Rumble, etc. But many scientists have been de-platformed for raising serious factual objections against the 'common narrative' and unless they have the knowledge/support to start their own web-site, they have no choice but to have their message heard on these often rogue 'free' channels. 

It's all part of silencing REAL scientific debate.  First by altering (actually falsifying) the curricula of those that do not sing to the same tune as what Big Pharma, CDC and WHO dictate to the mainstream-media.  The amazing sudden transformations from reputed scientist to fraudulent quack on Wikipedia are legio.  And then by deleting the content they post as a prelude to de-platforming them when they persist, leaving them no choice but to revert to those channels that do accept their content.

If you have never heard of scientists like dr Robert Malone, dr Michael Yeadon, prof dr Sucharit Bhakdi, dr Roger Hodkinson, dr Byram Bridle, and so many others, but do a Google search, you will get 20 'fact-check' reports by anonymous fact-checkers with an agenda trying to convince you that these scientists do not  have any credibility at all.  If you persist and look on Wikipedia for their qualifications > same story.  And seeing that you have to access sites like Bitchute or Rumble to hear their message, you will most probably not do the effort to hear their consistent message backed up every day with more factual evidence (this in contrast with the flip-flops of the 'credible' - hahaha - sources like Faucy, Walinsky, and other totally compromised hand-puppets).  

You're comparing apples and pears.

Fauci and others are not researchers publishing facts. They are spokespersons at most.

I never quote them

And individuals who claim something on misinformation websites who are not open to peer review and fact-checking are not proper researchers either.

I never quote them either

For proper research there are databases. That's where you find whether research for example in America matches with Europe and Thailand. And when it does it can become relevant. That's when consensus is built. Because much similar research is done uncoordinated and when different studies show the same results, that's where it becomes relevant.

Whistle blowers are important. And they should be looked at instead of ignored or worse in the case of China. But once their fraud is exposed, you should not continue to take it as gospel.

That's why it's important to stick to the facts. Everyone may have a different opinion. But when you start venting that as the (clearly false) truth, that's when it becomes objectionable.

[Ronaldus]

On 8/3/2021 at 9:34 AM, gummy said:

The Thai government discovered this in March/April last year. They are world leaders in discovering facts that no one ever proves to be correct.

 

3 hours ago, Bob20 said:

You clearly have no understanding of science.

You are entitled to your opinion, same as people who think the earth is flat.

But if you get your "news" from brandnewtube and rumble etc. and view that scientifically unsupported and one-off nonsense as facts, there's something seriously wrong.

 

[Ronaldus]

6 hours ago, Bob20 said:

You clearly have no understanding of science.

You are entitled to your opinion, same as people who think the earth is flat.

But if you get your "news" from brandnewtube and rumble etc. and view that scientifically unsupported and one-off nonsense as facts, there's something seriously wrong.

Here you have some Science. 

 

Whereas: this has resulted in a pandemic that has cost more  
American lives than any war in U.S. history including WWII, The  
Civil War, or all other U.S. Wars combined; and 
Whereas: 
The EUA documents filed by Pfizer, Moderna, and Janssen all demonstrate that the use of these Experimental Drug/Vaccines that include either the mRNA or dsDNA of the Spike Protein produced by this Gain-of-Function Research, do NOT statistically reduce the incidence of COVID-19, or deaths  
from COVID-19, and 
 
Whereas: 
by definition this Spike Protein is pursuant to the terms  
and conditions of the Biological Weapons Convention Treaty  
(BWCT) a direct violation of the Biological Weapons Convention  
Treaty; and 
 
Whereas: 
the failure to provide the required written Informed Consent to individuals being given these Experimental Drug Vaccine (Biological Agents), make the injection of these  
Experimental Drug Vaccines (Biological Agents) by definition; a violation of (1) The 1947 Nuremberg Code, (2) The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) Treaty, (3) The 1964 Declaration of Helsinki, and (4) The American Medical Association (AMA) Code of Ethics.  

We hereby respectfully and formally request: 
That the President and Congress of the United States of American begin the immediate investigation of those involved in Gain-of-Function research, and that the investigation specifically include the investigation of those individuals and agencies responsible for the investment and development of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
 That these individuals be held legally and criminally accountable for their actions in violation with including but not limited to U.S.

 

[vlad]

23 hours ago, Ronaldus said:

So how many people in thailand committed suicide. Because they lost everything. And vaccinated people still get covid. The numbers will go down. Lockdowns or not

Yes Ronaldus it will get better but when ?

[vlad]

11 hours ago, Ronaldus said:

Freedom back? 1 you still can get covid 2 you still can give covid to someone else. 3 masks don't work. 4 hope this vaccine don't kill you. 

Ronaldus whats your point ? We know fully Vaxed can still transmit and receive it from an infected person its not news, What your failing to say is your not likely to be hospitalized because of it, but unvaccinated is a possibility .

[Ronaldus]

29 minutes ago, vlad said:

Yes Ronaldus it will get better but when ?

When people stop testing for covid. 

[Manu]

1 hour ago, vlad said:

Ronaldus whats your point ? We know fully Vaxed can still transmit and receive it from an infected person its not news, What your failing to say is your not likely to be hospitalized because of it, but unvaccinated is a possibility .

Getting a vaccine or any medical treatment, it is always about the balance benefits/risks. We all know now who is at risk or at high risk of being badly ill or die from covid 19: the ederlies and people with severe comorbidities. For them, getting vaccinated with a product that is STILL under "the emergency use" is clearly a benefit. But what about the others, the young healthy people, the kids? Why pratically all countries around the world, but especially the West, want to vaccinate their entire populations (the UAE have started to vaccinate kids from the age of3)?? We have been told for months that is to reach herd immunity but we also know now that it is not going to happen with products that does not AT ALL prevent to catch and transmit the virus (in fact, it is now also known that vaccinated or not, if you are infected, you carry the same amount of virus https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/10/delta-variant-renders-herd-immunity-from-covid-mythical). Those are the questions we should all ask ourselves, and certainly end this ridiculous and counter-productive pro/anti vaccines war (taken out of the equation real anti-vaxx that were so before covid so just more so now).