Chinese market finds Covid on durian packages

[Thaiger]

Recently, a Chinese market in Ganzhou, which sits in the east of China, announced that they detected Covid on the surface of durian packages that came from Thailand, says the Office of Agricultural Affairs under the Thai Embassy in Beijing. The OAA says they found the virus at the Haudongcheng market late last week. Further, everyone who has handled the durian packages has tested negative for Covid and are currently under quarantine. The durian packages have also been stored for safety. It was not immediately clear whose safety was being protected, the safety of the customers or the safety of […]

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[Guest]

Covid don't spread on surfaces. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/health/cdc-coronavirus-touching-surfaces.html

[Ubon2530]

22 minutes ago, Xaos said:

Covid don't spread on surfaces. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/health/cdc-coronavirus-touching-surfaces.html

The Chinese have to blame someone...

[King Cotton]

1 hour ago, Xaos said:

Covid don't spread on surfaces. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/22/health/cdc-coronavirus-touching-surfaces.html

Now then Xaos, your quote actually says that 'Surfaces are not the main way that Coronavirus spreads', clearly inferring that surfaces do present a minor means of transmission.

Here's the opposing view, from https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/science-and-research/surface-transmission.html . . .

 

It is possible for people to be infected through contact with contaminated surfaces or objects (fomites), but the risk is generally considered to be low.

And that is something that troubles me slightly as I grab the trolley handle at Tesco's

 

[Poolie]

Err, thats Guangzhou, Guangdong. Haungdongchen Agricultural Market is actually in Donguan which is in Southern China but apart from that..........

Edited August 17, 2021 by Poolie

[DiggR]

12 minutes ago, King Cotton said:

Now then Xaos, your quote actually says that 'Surfaces are not the main way that Coronavirus spreads', clearly inferring that surfaces do present a minor means of transmission.

Here's the opposing view, from https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/science-and-research/surface-transmission.html . . .

It is possible for people to be infected through contact with contaminated surfaces or objects (fomites), but the risk is generally considered to be low.

And that is something that troubles me slightly as I grab the trolley handle at Tesco's

 Lather up that trolley handle with the courtesy hand sanitizer, problem solved. Don't forget to sanitize them phalanges  on the way out after squezing the local melons.

[Gazza]

Well looks like the Chinese are getting some of there crap back.GOOD.

[King Cotton]

48 minutes ago, Gazza said:

Well looks like the Chinese are getting some of there crap back.GOOD.

Tough times for all, now, even the poor durian farmers! And thanks for this, your debut post!

Hello, Gazza and welcome to Thaiger Talk

Please feel free to tell us a bit about yourself in 'Introductions'. It's good to pick-up on those sometimes differing regional or geographical perspectives.

And check-out the Guidelines, too, when you get a free minute. They're there to help us all enjoy our time here.

Happy posting

King Cotton

[Graham]

Return to sender sounds apt in this case. 555

[riclag]

1 hour ago, King Cotton said:

Now then Xaos, your quote actually says that 'Surfaces are not the main way that Coronavirus spreads', clearly inferring that surfaces do present a minor means of transmission.

Here's the opposing view, from https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/science-and-research/surface-transmission.html . . .

It is possible for people to be infected through contact with contaminated surfaces or objects (fomites), but the risk is generally considered to be low.

And that is something that troubles me slightly as I grab the trolley handle at Tesco's

 I bring a paper towel inside with me and drip a ton of 70% on it and wipe that sucker down !

[AdvocatusDiaboli]

3 hours ago, Thaiger said:

The durian packages have also been stored for safety.

So are they in 14 day quarantine too? With three tests to check if the packaging has got rid of it.

You would think that for such a valued product as Durian (in China) you would have a decontamination team in full flight so the fruit does not spoil. 

[JackMeOff]

Maybe here in Thailand,  we should start doing swab tests on the 7/11 condoms that are imported here from China.  

 

That makes as much sense as sample testing the hundreds of thousands or millions of Durians that are shipped to China each year. 

"Just saying", folks.

Edited August 17, 2021 by JackMeOff
Typo

[kmc]

they should have put masks on the durians...ha...ha..

[Leo]

15 hours ago, King Cotton said:

Now then Xaos, your quote actually says that 'Surfaces are not the main way that Coronavirus spreads', clearly inferring that surfaces do present a minor means of transmission.

Here's the opposing view, from https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/science-and-research/surface-transmission.html . . .

It is possible for people to be infected through contact with contaminated surfaces or objects (fomites), but the risk is generally considered to be low.

And that is something that troubles me slightly as I grab the trolley handle at Tesco's

Except that the virus doesn't last long on non-living objects. In this case, by the time the durian was put into crates, and then into some storage, and then into cartons, and then into a flight, about 3-4 days would have passed, minimum.

The trolley or basket handle, on the other hand, is susceptible simply because someone touches it every few minutes.

This "practice" by China is getting old. They used it often last year to blame local infections on foreigners.

[Ronin]

Almost as absurd as the previous claim of getting Covid on frozen seafood boxes more of a ploy for China as an excuses. Or else as other comments you batch test imports for Covid so that would do wonders for trade all stuck in ports waiting for it to be cleared. 

[dmacarelli]

Very typical of the kind of deception, and nasty PR the CCP engages in daily. However, it's important to know that the amount of virus detectable on a surface reduces sharply with time — with significantly less infectious virus on cardboard, for example, in as little as four hours. In addition, these numbers come from experiments performed in ideal laboratory conditions, which differ from our everyday environmental conditions.

It is just cheap, publicity seeking nonsense, and makes the Chinese govt. look desperate and even more heinous than they already are. 

 

Edited August 18, 2021 by King Cotton

[gordo2613]

this is a ploy by the Chinese to have power over Thailand, we will ban all your fruit imports if dont buy our crapovac vaccine, ( Thai govt voice, ok give us 10million) 

[Objectivance]

That's called a strong-arm negotiation tactic. "It has covid on it, gonna need to get it all way cheaper or we can't buy it."

[dmacarelli]

Since this was specifically about packages which have been shipped, not handed from person to person.

However, it's important to know that the amount of virus detectable on a surface reduces sharply with time — with significantly less infectious virus on cardboard, for example, in as little as four hours. In addition, these numbers come from experiments performed in ideal laboratory conditions, which differ from our everyday environmental conditions.

While it's possible for the new coronavirus to survive on packaging material, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that it's unlikely for the virus to be spread via mail and packages.

Rather, the CDC says that person-to-person transmission via close contact with an infected individual — even if that individual appears healthy — is still the most likely way to spread the new coronavirus. This means that social distancing, washing your hands and covering coughs, wearing a cloth mask in public, and cleaning and disinfecting commonly touched surfaces are still the most effective ways to protect yourself from COVID-19.

Here's the opposing view, from https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/science-and-research/surface-transmission.html . . .

 

 

 

 

[Guest]

21 hours ago, King Cotton said:

Now then Xaos, your quote actually says that 'Surfaces are not the main way that Coronavirus spreads', clearly inferring that surfaces do present a minor means of transmission.

Here's the opposing view, from https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/science-and-research/surface-transmission.html . . .

It is possible for people to be infected through contact with contaminated surfaces or objects (fomites), but the risk is generally considered to be low.

And that is something that troubles me slightly as I grab the trolley handle at Tesco's

Nah it's absolute psyop.

It's next to impossible to get it from items.

Whole rubber gloves wearing, washing money, psyop.

Gotta know what psyop when u see one.

If u worried about Tesco carts u felt for it.

It's all a show

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/19/health/cdc-covid-guidelines-cleaning/index.html

 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/feb/28/clean-break-the-risk-of-catching-covid-from-surfaces-overblown-experts-say

 

https://www.denverpost.com/2021/04/13/cdc-surface-transmission-rare-covid-19/

 

Now back to Durians, what a joke