Doctor whose family died of Covid-19 urges private import of vaccines

[Thaiger]

Dr Sitthiphong Lapanich has lost a lot to Covid-19 and now he’s calling for others besides the government to import vaccines. The doctor has seen the effects of Covid-19, and the lack of effective vaccines, after losing both his parents and his sister to the virus, and is fighting to push the government to allow independent groups to directly import vaccines. The doctor’s sister was Saranya Lapanich, also a doctor, a physician at Bhumibol Adulyadej Hospital. She just died of Covid-19 despite having 2 doses of the Sinovac vaccine that many complain is not effective against the Delta variant, now […]

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[Col]

Sincere condolences to Dr Sitthiphong Lapanich and his family. Even through sadness and grieving his prime objective is to help others. 
Good luck with your fight and may sensibility prevail.

Thank you to you all your staff and all hospital staff around the country for your dedication and love for helping others.

We have seen around the world the devastation to families and the impact on medical institutions this virus is causing.

I only wish the government would watch and learn from the mayor in Italy when the pandemic started there before sweeping through Europe.

I still believe the pandemic has nowhere near peaked yet in Thailand, and the numbers will grow exponentially in the following months, so Inject everyone with a good quality injection.

Edited August 14, 2021 by Col

[April]

This is very True , my heart goes out to all these people effected by Covid, I think that they all should be free for these countries Moderna and Pfizer and be shipped to them asap. Not fair.  Thoughts and Prayers for this Dr. And family

[Lawyers_Guns_and_Money]

I have a feeling that by the end of the year, we will begin to see medical groups from the UN, Red Cross and others going into countries and proving mass vaccination resources. It has become apparent that there will continue to be a disparity of availability to effective vaccines and the pandemic will not end until it is confronted head on. 

[shanghailoz]

Israel went with Pfizer - its also not that great at preventing infection (apparently).

Seems to be common to the delta variant being different enough from the first vaccine's produced for all of them, vs one vaccine being "worse".

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-covid-graphs-prove-vaccines-works-delta-pfizer-1.10101640

The Health Ministry said late last month that the effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine in preventing infection and mild symptoms has dropped to 40 percent, although the data might be skewed because of issues with the small sampling size.

[Lawyers_Guns_and_Money]

It is baffling that people still think that a vaccine will prevent infection. It's purpose is to prevent serious complications from infections. Israel has reported 7 deaths today. And their two week average is 14 deaths. From that perspective, the vaccinations worked. 

[Maverick]

Misleading article and comments from this Doctor, who is clearly devastated at his loss. Govt gave permission some time ago for Organisations to import vaccines directly, the real issue is that Thailand is a long way down the queue to obtain the MRNA vaccines, which are in huge demand because Astra Zeneca was demonized by Europe and others , and Chinese vaccines have been outpaced by new variants. One has to wonder whether there is a veiled dig here at Govt for not accepting help from Thaksin who has offered to use his contacts to obtain vaccines, who knows politicking perhaps. 
 

[9S_]

24 minutes ago, Maverick said:

Govt gave permission some time ago for Organisations to import vaccines directly

Yea I doubt that.  How can government officials get their beaks wet when some rando private citizens imports them on his/her own. 
 

Greed comes first. 

[OnbekendeNederlander]

4 hours ago, Lawyers_Guns_and_Money said:

I have a feeling that by the end of the year, we will begin to see medical groups from the UN, Red Cross and others going into countries and proving mass vaccination resources. It has become apparent that there will continue to be a disparity of availability to effective vaccines and the pandemic will not end until it is confronted head on. 

Medication Better than vaccination. 

Ivermectone

And/Or

Favipiravir

Are now available in Thailand. 

Medication heals 

"Vaccins" suppress 

[SomTum]

31 minutes ago, OnbekendeNederlander said:

Medication Better than vaccination. 

Ivermectone

And/Or

Favipiravir

Are now available in Thailand. 

Medication heals 

"Vaccins" suppress 

 

Vaccines don't directly suppress disease. Vaccines train your immune system to recognize and kill a pathogen.

Since there is no way to use a high enough dose of pharmaceuticals to completely neutralize the virus without risking toxicity -- human bodies are not petri dishes -- their role should be viewed as supporting the immune system, whether it is naive (no previous exposure) or primed (through prior infection or vaccination).

Antivirals like Remdesivir and Favipiravir interfere with viral replication and potentially with viral entry into the cell. The benefits of Remdesivir appear to be less than originally hoped, and Favipiravir doesn't really look very promising in a meta-analysis: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-90551-6 . The mechanism of action of Ivermectin remains under study, but it seems to act similarly to antivirals by disrupting viral replication and entry.

That's all useful, but it has not yet proven to be a game changer. The focus needs to be on preventing infections from advancing to serious disease, whether that is through vaccines or home-based prophylactic regimens or a combination of both.

 

[Nicholas]

We all know covid 19 the origin being China has killed millions since it came to be identified. Statistics for instance will say today a 101 year old person died of covid.

If everyday statistics are put forth of this specific death why not also inform citizens how many died of heart attack, stroke and cancer to put things into perspective. The vaccine is prevention and not a cute and also no doubt a person's wellbeing and immune response comes into play.  A friend of mine had covid for over 3 months before his body was clear of the virus. He was not hospitalised neither had he had any vaccine. The vaccine is still really experience and experiment. 

[mic]

Sinovac,Sinovac,Sinovac.

Terrifying.

How many vaccinated people in Phuket got infected with Delta and have recovered ????

How many had mild and how many had severe symptoms.

Sinovac,the end justifies the means 

[AlexPTY]

My condolences, but how do you think it's gonna work. It's a controlled substance, not a popsicle you buy at 7-11. And those so-called "better" vaccines are not really so much better. Stick with what we have and keep it rolling. It's about quantity, not quality at this stage

[gummy]

3 minutes ago, AlexPTY said:

My condolences, but how do you think it's gonna work. It's a controlled substance, not a popsicle you buy at 7-11. And those so-called "better" vaccines are not really so much better. Stick with what we have and keep it rolling. It's about quantity, not quality at this stage

Plus there is always the likelihood with the long lead times currently for orders in their millions delivery for some vaccines that once delivered a new strain will have emerged possibly making the vaccine received not so effective as we have already witnessed.

[AdamX]

5 hours ago, Lawyers_Guns_and_Money said:

It is baffling that people still think that a vaccine will prevent infection. It's purpose is to prevent serious complications from infections. 

Vaccines are supposed to stop infection and transmission. The mrna gene therapy appears to be unable to satisfy these criteria.

 

[Maverick]

There has still be no real explanation as to how the virus retreated so rapidly in India - Armageddon was predicted there for a while -  their vaccination rate is still low, however ivermectin is widely available and used in India, could this be a factor - don’t expect anything from the WHO on this, it does not suit China’s agenda, or big pharmaceutical for that matter......patent has expired on ivermectin 

[sputnik]

9 hours ago, Thaiger said:

Dr Sitthiphong Lapanich has lost a lot to Covid-19 and now he’s calling for others besides the government to import vaccines. The doctor has seen the effects of Covid-19, and the lack of effective vaccines, after losing both his parents and his sister to the virus, and is fighting to push the government to allow independent groups to directly import vaccines. The doctor’s sister was Saranya Lapanich, also a doctor, a physician at Bhumibol Adulyadej Hospital. She just died of Covid-19 despite having 2 doses of the Sinovac vaccine that many complain is not effective against the Delta variant, now […]

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where is the anti vaccine crowd now...???

anything ?...where are all the experts who knows better than reality...???

human rights means the distribution of an effective vaccine and not this

sino bullshit  cash cow ( for some powerful )...

rip...

[BlueSphinx]

12 minutes ago, sputnik said:

where is the anti vaccine crowd now...???

anything ?...where are all the experts who knows better than reality...???

human rights means the distribution of an effective vaccine and not this

sino bullshit  cash cow ( for some powerful )...

rip...

The anti vaccine crowd as you incorrectly call those that are hesitant to be part of this mass-vaccination experiment, are not rejoicing when anybody - vaccinated or non-vaccinated - succumbs to the virus.  Whether the deceased had received any remedial treatment is as good as never mentioned in those articles, although luckily the tide seems slowly to turn and people are not simply sent home anymore or just put in quarantaine with a ventilator.  There are safe, effective treatments for covid-19 and obviously starting with those at first symptoms (or as a prophylactic) gives the best results.  Taking a vaccine with unknown long-term side-effects, when there are safe effective preventative/curative remedies available should be a no-brainer.

[Stonker]

1 hour ago, AdamX said:

Vaccines are supposed to stop infection and transmission. The mrna gene therapy appears to be unable to satisfy these criteria.

No they're not - they're supposed to reduce them.

Why keep repeating something you know to be wrong?

[Stonker]

1 hour ago, sputnik said:

where is the anti vaccine crowd now...???

anything ?...where are all the experts who knows better than reality...???

human rights means the distribution of an effective vaccine and not this

sino bullshit  cash cow ( for some powerful )...

rip...

Unfortunately still here, despite being rightly banned from promoting their dangerous disinformation and stupidity elsewhere.

[vlad]

4 hours ago, AlexPTY said:

My condolences, but how do you think it's gonna work. It's a controlled substance, not a popsicle you buy at 7-11. And those so-called "better" vaccines are not really so much better. Stick with what we have and keep it rolling. It's about quantity, not quality at this stage

Alex would you buy a Dunlop Tyre knowing it will last over a year or would you buy a cheap Chinese Tyre that last's six Month's, because it was cheap.

[AussieBob]

1 hour ago, Tornado said:

My condolences to Dr. Sitthiphong Lapanich and his family, what a tragedy for the family. He has a valid point, when governments fail, the system must protect the citizens. Earlier, it was reported hospitals would be able to do this and sell them at a profit.  Australia just received 1M doses of Pfizer negotiated through their Embassy in Poland.

Unfortunately Thailand Junta decided they had the virus under control, and that unlike the west they were not going to have massive infections.  They then made ignorant decisions on that arrogant basis. One of those decisions, unlike in Aust as you mentioned, was to ignore the option of joining the Covax Facility and becoming part of the world system for obtaining additional supply of doses if ever needed (like now).   

[gummy]

14 minutes ago, vlad said:

Alex would you buy a Dunlop Tyre knowing it will last over a year or would you buy a cheap Chinese Tyre that last's six Month's, because it was cheap.

I would actually buy a Michelin, renowned for their longevity but what @AlexPTY would buy with regards to vaccine perhaps would be what ever was available at the time as something is better than nothing surely and at the time that poor doctor received his vaccination that was the only one available which is now known to be less effective against the Delta strain, but something not known at the time perhaps.

[Alavan]

10 hours ago, shanghailoz said:

Israel went with Pfizer - its also not that great at preventing infection (apparently).

Seems to be common to the delta variant being different enough from the first vaccine's produced for all of them, vs one vaccine being "worse".

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delta-variant-pfizer-covid-vaccine-39percent-effective-in-israel-prevents-severe-illness.html

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-covid-graphs-prove-vaccines-works-delta-pfizer-1.10101640

The Health Ministry said late last month that the effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine in preventing infection and mild symptoms has dropped to 40 percent, although the data might be skewed because of issues with the small sampling size.

The problem with Israel is that they have a large minority of ultra-orthodox/chassidic jews who don't want vaccines. God will protect them.
In Antwerp, where there is a similar community there were problems during lock-down time because going en masse to the synagogue was of paramount importance, not laws forbidding gatherings of more than 4 people, lock-down or whatever.

[AlexPTY]

1 hour ago, gummy said:

I would actually buy a Michelin, renowned for their longevity but what @AlexPTY would buy with regards to vaccine perhaps would be what ever was available at the time as something is better than nothing surely and at the time that poor doctor received his vaccination that was the only one available which is now known to be less effective against the Delta strain, but something not known at the time perhaps.

spot on @gummy, i had a choice to get Sino or wait 2 weeks and get an AZ. Med staff should've been bolstered with Pfizer, which already has a bad name with regards to Delta. At this stage, it's a lottery as vaccine do not protect against infection at all, our body immune system does.

 

Like Michelin too, but they do make them in Thailand