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I posted this SHORT message already yesterday in a sub-forum, but it seemingly went virtually unnoticed there.  But the condensed 5 key-messages are so IMPORTANT that I re-post them here, as everybody should be made aware of these 5 truths.

These 5 key messages were compiled by Dr Peter McCullough, a cardiologist, internal disease specialist, epidemiologist and academic researcher, editor-in-chief of two medical journals and author of over 600 peer-reviewed publications in the US National Library of Medicine, more than 45 of them dedicated to Covid-19.  He has managed the care of more than 100 Covid patients as well as advising on hundreds more worldwide.   

The five messages are: 

1. The virus is not spread asymptomatically.  That is, only sick people give it to other people.  

2. We should stop testing symptomless people.  That just generates false positives – creating extra ‘cases’ and extra concerns.  ‘There shouldn’t be a single person on Earth that should undergo an asymptomatic test or a test done on a routine basis.  For any reason.  People ought to just walk past these testing stations.  They have absolutely no standing whatsoever.’ 

3. Natural immunity is robust, complete, and durable.  It cannot be improved by vaccination, or any other method.   A person who has developed immunity after exposure to the virus is at minimal risk of becoming seriously ill again from Covid.  Where apparent cases of that kind have been reported, a misinterpretation in the test procedure has been responsible.   

Even with loosely defined cases, 11 studies involving 650,000 individuals showed a long-term recurrence rate of only 0.2 per cent.  ‘Someone who is naturally immune can walk up to someone who has Covid-19, get a big cough in the face, and they are not going to get the illness.’ 

4. Covid-19, no matter what the variant, is easily treatable at home with simple, available drugs.  About 88 per cent of hospitalisation and death is avoidable with early treatment.  ‘The only way people end up in hospital and have a miserable time is when they receive no treatment.’ 

It’s easy to treat the illness early on, when the symptoms are mild.  It has three major components: Viral replication, inflammation, and thrombosis – blood clots.  Once these develop, they lower oxygen levels in the lungs and are hard to reverse. 

5. The current Covid vaccines – AstraZeneca, Johnson and Johnson, Pfizer, and Moderna – are obsolete.  ‘They do not cover the new variants.  Patients are being hospitalised and getting sick, despite having the vaccines.’  And because of the record levels of deaths and injuries reported after the jabs, they should be considered ‘unsafe and unfit for human use.’ 

McCullough delivers this message in a four-minute video posted on LifeSite News.

It could save many lives, and perhaps even avoid any further fall into lockdown lunacy, if the link were to be sent to every doctor and every home in the UK.   

To all who come across this article, please take a look at the video and judge for yourself:  Is this some anti-vax maniac pushing a self-serving agenda?  Or a highly-experienced, concerned doctor offering valuable insights into Covid realities, and fighting for a more rational, science-based treatment approach?   

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The full article including links can be accessed here > Source: https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-five-key-covid-truths-that-could-have-saved-us-from-self-destruction/

 

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Peter McCullough is a nut job. He’s a favorite of Tucker Carlson and the anti van movement in the US. Why are you sponsoring his crap theories on here? Look him up in Google, he’s dangerous

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He does not say how many people are dying of covid after vaccination compared to unvaccinated. To claim vaccines are obsolete is irresponsible nonsense.

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1 minute ago, Jcamry1 said:

Peter McCullough is a nut job. He’s a favorite of Tucker Carlson and the anti van movement in the US. Why are you sponsoring his crap theories on here? Look him up in Google, he’s dangerous

Dr Peter Mc Cullough a nut job???  Did you see his curriculum?  He is a highly respected cardiologist, internal disease specialist, epidemiologist and academic researcher, editor-in-chief of two medical journals and author of over 600 peer-reviewed publications in the US National Library of Medicine, more than 45 of them dedicated to Covid-19.  He has managed the care of more than 100 Covid patients as well as advising on hundreds more worldwide.  

I followed him for quite a while now, and in one of his early interviews he told that he was initially very enthusiastic about the covid-vaccines, but that the vaccine adverse effects with his patients forced him to delve deeper into the matter and finally re-consider his stance. 

If you have a 'time-machine' on your google searches about him, you will see the amazing transformation of his curriculum from one of the most respected medical professionals in the US to a nut-job quack... written by anonymous 'fact fVckers' with an agenda...

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47 minutes ago, BlueSphinx said:

4. Covid-19, no matter what the variant, is easily treatable at home with simple, available drugs.

You really believe these doctors and nurses who are working until they collapse daily wouldn't treat people with anything but the most effective methods?

This article/video doesn't pass the smell test.

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2 hours ago, BlueSphinx said:

The five messages are: 

1. The virus is not spread asymptomatically.  That is, only sick people give it to other people.

When I first heard that people without symptoms could spread the SARS-CoV-2 virus, I was in disbelief. How could the virus spread without a cough or a sneeze? Turns out, it is very effective at spreading through the air simply by being exhaled. Infected persons can shed large amounts of virus without experiencing the kinds of symptoms we associate with colds and flus. They may never experience those symptoms, or they may begin experiencing them days later. I'm absolutely baffled that anyone purporting to be an expert on this virus would deny this.

An AFP fact check article says that in the past, McCullough referred to a study from Wuhan, about case surveillance in the aftermath of its lockdown, as support for his view. https://factcheck.afp.com/us-cardiologist-makes-false-claims-about-covid-19-vaccination. One of the authors of that paper said it was an incorrect interpretation. The paper cannot be generalized to how the virus behaves outside of a strict lockdown, and they didn't verify whether the PCR test results in non-symptomatic participants were dead RNA remnants or live virus. https://factcheck.afp.com/article-headline-misleads-study-covid-19-asymptomatic-transmission. And of course, we should keep in mind that the virus has evolved since May 2020 in ways that have allowed it to spread more easily.

I think this is an example of cherry picking research whose results you like while ignoring the consensus view in the field, which is that people are at their most infectious -- shedding the highest levels of virus -- in the days before they develop symptoms (pre-symptomatic stage).

3 hours ago, BlueSphinx said:

3. Natural immunity is robust, complete, and durable.  It cannot be improved by vaccination, or any other method.

The only problems with natural immunity are (A) needing to mount an effective immune response to survive the infection, and (B) long term sequelae in a surprising number of cases.

3 hours ago, BlueSphinx said:

5. The current Covid vaccines – AstraZeneca, Johnson and Johnson, Pfizer, and Moderna – are obsolete.  ‘They do not cover the new variants.

But natural immunity to an earlier variant does provide complete and durable protection against new variants? Hmm, that seems inconsistent.

The good news is that vaccines have proven very effective against severe disease, hospitalization and death among persons infected with variants. The implication that we should just chuck them all in the trash now as useless is ridiculous and really undermines his credibility. 

 

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3 hours ago, BlueSphinx said:

Dr Peter Mc Cullough a nut job???  Did you see his curriculum?  He is a highly respected cardiologist, internal disease specialist, epidemiologist 

No, he's not an epidemiologist (Epi's aren't even doctors usually) He's a cardiologist. All cardiologists earn internal disease accreditation. He's not an expert in immunology, virology or vaccines.

Why is it all anti-vax people listen to osteopaths (bone docs) psychiatrists (shrinks) and generally any doctor who isn't a specialist in virology, immunology or vaccines?

He was respected - in his field - cardiology. NOT covid.

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6 minutes ago, SomTum said:

When I first heard that people without symptoms could spread the SARS-CoV-2 virus, I was in disbelief. How could the virus spread without a cough or a sneeze? Turns out, it is very effective at spreading through the air simply by being exhaled. Infected persons can shed large amounts of virus without experiencing the kinds of symptoms we associate with colds and flus. They may never experience those symptoms, or they may begin experiencing them days later. I'm absolutely baffled that anyone purporting to be an expert on this virus would deny this.

An AFP fact check article says that in the past, McCullough referred to a study from Wuhan, about case surveillance in the aftermath of its lockdown, as support for his view. https://factcheck.afp.com/us-cardiologist-makes-false-claims-about-covid-19-vaccination. One of the authors of that paper said it was an incorrect interpretation. The paper cannot be generalized to how the virus behaves outside of a strict lockdown, and they didn't verify whether the PCR test results in non-symptomatic participants were dead RNA remnants or live virus. https://factcheck.afp.com/article-headline-misleads-study-covid-19-asymptomatic-transmission. And of course, we should keep in mind that the virus has evolved since May 2020 in ways that have allowed it to spread more easily.

I think this is an example of cherry picking research whose results you like while ignoring the consensus view in the field, which is that people are at their most infectious -- shedding the highest levels of virus -- in the days before they develop symptoms (pre-symptomatic stage).

The only problems with natural immunity are (A) needing to mount an effective immune response to survive the infection, and (B) long term sequelae in a surprising number of cases.

But natural immunity to an earlier variant does provide complete and durable protection against new variants? Hmm, that seems inconsistent.

The good news is that vaccines have proven very effective against severe disease, hospitalization and death among persons infected with variants. The implication that we should just chuck them all in the trash now as useless is ridiculous and really undermines his credibility. 

Thank you for a factual and civil response to dr Peter Mc Cullough's condensed 5-point message.  Although you do not agree with his statements, you did not join the nut-job, dangerous quack, anti-vax maniac, irresponsible nonsense chorus to attack this highly qualified MD.  He surely did not dream up these messages overnight, because only 6 months ago he was still enthusiastic about the vaccine-promise as solution for the current covid health-crisis.  But it were the adverse effects from these vaccines on his patients that urged him to delve deeper and ultimately led him to these conclusions for which he is now vilified.  

 

A quote  by Thomas Carlyle for the chorus > I do not believe in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.

 

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12 minutes ago, BlueSphinx said:

He surely did not dream up these messages overnight, because only 6 months ago he was still enthusiastic about the vaccine-promise as solution for the current covid health-crisis.  But it were the adverse effects from these vaccines on his patients that urged him to delve deeper and ultimately led him to these conclusions for which he is now vilified.

I don't think either of us can know what is going on in his mind or his heart.

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4 hours ago, HappyExpat said:

You really believe these doctors and nurses who are working until they collapse daily wouldn't treat people with anything but the most effective methods?

This article/video doesn't pass the smell test.

Are you kidding?  If they speak out against the policy makers, they lose their job.  There's been plenty of nurses and doctors that have quit their job then spoken out.  If the hospital administrators speak out against the CDC or NIH, they lose their funding.  It all rolls downhill from that POS Fauci and his billions of dollars of funding that he hands out.

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18 minutes ago, Ttalk said:

Are you kidding?  If they speak out against the policy makers, they lose their job.  There's been plenty of nurses and doctors that have quit their job then spoken out.  If the hospital administrators speak out against the CDC or NIH, they lose their funding.  It all rolls downhill from that POS Fauci and his billions of dollars of funding that he hands out.

Pleeeeeeeeeeeze! You're suggesting a global conspiracy of silence from doctors and nurses around the world?  555!

And referring to DOCTOR Fauci in such a base manner reveals your "news" sources are those spewing the most disreputable garbage possible . Quite sad, really.

Oh, and did you hear Rand Paul got a 7 day suspension from Youtube for spreading misinformation similar to yours here?

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4 hours ago, Jcamry1 said:

Peter McCullough is a nut job. He’s a favorite of Tucker Carlson and the anti van movement in the US. Why are you sponsoring his crap theories on here? Look him up in Google, he’s dangerous

Because nut jobs love other nut jobs.

 

Look at his five points:

 

5 hours ago, BlueSphinx said:

1. The virus is not spread asymptomatically.  That is, only sick people give it to other people. 

Simply not true, as has been shown countless times.

Even if it were true, it's meaningless - does having symptoms mean having a big flashing sign growing out of the top of your head warning others you have Covid, or that you will automatically self-isolate?

5 hours ago, BlueSphinx said:

2. We should stop testing symptomless people.  That just generates false positives – creating extra ‘cases’ and extra concerns.  ‘There shouldn’t be a single person on Earth that should undergo an asymptomatic test or a test done on a routine basis.  For any reason.  People ought to just walk past these testing stations.  They have absolutely no standing whatsoever.’ 

For "any" reason?  Not just Covid-19, but for anything including cancer screening until you show symptoms of having cancer?

Moronic.  No, beyond moronic. Unbelievable from anyone with a grain of intelligence, let alone a doctor.

5 hours ago, BlueSphinx said:

3. Natural immunity is robust, complete, and durable.  ... (snip) ...  ‘Someone who is naturally immune can walk up to someone who has Covid-19, get a big cough in the face, and they are not going to get the illness.’ 

So assuming for the sake of argument that he's correct, how do you know who has "natural immunity" if you've done as he demands (point 2) and stopped testing anyone unless they're sick?

5 hours ago, BlueSphinx said:

4. Covid-19, no matter what the variant, is easily treatable at home with simple, available drugs.  About 88 per cent of hospitalisation and death is avoidable with early treatment.  ‘The only way people end up in hospital and have a miserable time is when they receive no treatment.’ 

It’s easy to treat the illness early on, when the symptoms are mild.  It has three major components: Viral replication, inflammation, and thrombosis – blood clots.  Once these develop, they lower oxygen levels in the lungs and are hard to reverse. 

Assuming for the sake of argument that he's correct again, how do you know who has "mild symptoms" if you've again done as he demands (point 2) and stopped testing anyone until they get sick?

By the time the results are back their mild symptoms will have had 24 -48 hours to develop so you won't be treating them "early on".

By following his Point 2, he makes Point 3 impossible to know and Point 4 impossible to do.

5 hours ago, BlueSphinx said:

5.  The current Covid vaccines – AstraZeneca, Johnson and Johnson, Pfizer, and Moderna – are obsolete.  ‘They do not cover the new variants.  Patients are being hospitalised and getting sick, despite having the vaccines.’  And because of the record levels of deaths and injuries reported after the jabs, they should be considered ‘unsafe and unfit for human use.’ 

None of the vaccines were ever claimed to be 100% effective - at best they were 98%, so that still leaves 2%.  With some 1.25 billion fully vaccinated that means at least 25 million of them can still catch Covid.

The level of "deaths and injuries" he claims is unsupported by any evidence, and contradicted by all available evidence.

5 hours ago, BlueSphinx said:

To all who come across this article, please take a look at the video and judge for yourself:  Is this some anti-vax maniac pushing a self-serving agenda?  Or a highly-experienced, concerned doctor offering valuable insights into Covid realities, and fighting for a more rational, science-based treatment approach?   

Option 3 - he's a nut job whose lost his marbles, whose ideas contradict each other to the point where if you follow one argument then his other arguments are, literally, impossible.

 

He should be the doctor on the ship transporting hij and his fellow nut jobs to South Georgia, where they should be left without endangering the rest of the world.

 

If you disagree, then all you have to do is explain how Points 3 and 4 are possible if you've done Point 2.  That shuldn't be hard for someone who thinks he's as bright as you do, but I won't hold my breath.

 

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That seems to be the common narrative on this thread > Dr Peter McCullough is a nutjob, lost his marbles, anti-vax maniac, and so on.  May I invite you to just take a look at his testimony on the Texas HHS Committee on March 11, 2021.  Never have I seen a more honest, sane and at same time genuinely passionate testimony for providing care to patients.  He is a true hero and will be remembered as such in history for his courage.  This is history in the making and what he was saying there now 5 months ago, is still as relevant as when he made that testimony. 

 

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14 minutes ago, BlueSphinx said:

That seems to be the common narrative on this thread > Dr Peter McCullough is a nutjob, lost his marbles, anti-vax maniac, and so on. 

I never said he was a nutjob, just that he wasn't an expert about COVID.

He repeatedly states the same opinion "I'm an expert in MY FIELD, my field (he says this 3 or 4 times) cardiology, and the most published doctor in MY FIELD."

So why does he bring up his irrelevant experience at a senate hearing? Because he has to say something to let people know he's not a nutter.

I'm a radiologist. Would you want me to give my completely irrelevant opinion on COVID vaccines, or to have a crack at your hip-replacement?

I am a medical professional, so why not give heart surgery a go too? Because I'm not a self important a-se hole who thinks he know's everything. (Some would disagree)

Leave the expert opinions to the experts please.

Edit: It's also important to note that COVID mainly affects our lungs. Cardiology deals with the heart and vascular system.

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MUST READ/VIEW > The 5 KEY messages about covid-19 by dr Peter McCullough

Well, that's 15 minutes of my life I won't get back.

I agree with several others here...credentials aside, he's a nutjob.

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8 hours ago, BlueSphinx said:

Dr Peter Mc Cullough a nut job???  Did you see his curriculum?  He is a highly respected cardiologist, internal disease specialist, epidemiologist and academic researcher, editor-in-chief of two medical journals and author of over 600 peer-reviewed publications in the US National Library of Medicine, more than 45 of them dedicated to Covid-19.  He has managed the care of more than 100 Covid patients as well as advising on hundreds more worldwide.  

I followed him for quite a while now, and in one of his early interviews he told that he was initially very enthusiastic about the covid-vaccines, but that the vaccine adverse effects with his patients forced him to delve deeper into the matter and finally re-consider his stance. 

If you have a 'time-machine' on your google searches about him, you will see the amazing transformation of his curriculum from one of the most respected medical professionals in the US to a nut-job quack... written by anonymous 'fact fVckers' with an agenda...

Then why do the infections and deaths curves plus the 'R; rate fall dramatically once vaccinations are taken into account ?

Genuine question

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