AussieBob Posted December 29, 2024 #566918 Share Posted December 29, 2024 On 12/28/2024 at 3:06 PM, Khunmark said: Aussie Bob trying to impose his Western sensibilities on the local population. It may come as a surprise but Thailand has gone down the euthanasia path as far as stray dogs are concerned. That was about 30 years ago. So why isn’t the practice still being pursued? Well, it turns out that it had a lot to do with the public outcry from the locals who viewed the practice as an abomination. Furthermore, if you bother to watch the nightly news, you would quickly come to the realisation that the real problem concerning our four legged friends, is not the mangy soi dog who is largely docile by nature, but the owned dogs that somehow manage to devour passers-by because their owner, who aside from having a hard-on for notoriously viscous breeds of dogs, know neither how to confine or control them. I could also tell them how to build roadways and overpasses - but like all ferals who think they are part-all Thai, you think that is 'racist' somehow - or is it just demeaning? What should be done and what can be done are not the same thing. What I can say without fear of contradiction, is that the way they are handling it here does not work very well - nor is how they manage stray dogs. Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/36083-for-dog-lovers-only-turkeys-stray-dog-massacre/page/2/#findComment-566918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowslip Posted December 29, 2024 #566926 Share Posted December 29, 2024 2 hours ago, AussieBob said: As proven by myself and others there WAS culls in the West Love it...sums you up perfectly! Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/36083-for-dog-lovers-only-turkeys-stray-dog-massacre/page/2/#findComment-566926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowslip Posted December 29, 2024 #566931 Share Posted December 29, 2024 3 hours ago, AussieBob said: As proven by myself and others there WAS culls in the West where's you proof Bob? You don't have any - you just dream it up as you go along Korea? South Korea is still actively addressing the issue of stray dogs through various measures, including adoption programs, sterilization campaigns, and efforts to improve animal welfare laws. The current status can vary, but generally, there have been ongoing efforts to reduce the stray dog population and improve their well-being. Historically South Korea, like many countries, has tried culling (the systematic killing of animals) as a method to control stray dog populations. However, there has been global criticism of this approach due to its ineffectiveness in the long term. In recent years, (it doesn't work!). South Korea has been shifting towards methods such as sterilization, adoption programs, and improved animal welfare policies to manage stray dog populations Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/36083-for-dog-lovers-only-turkeys-stray-dog-massacre/page/2/#findComment-566931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khunmark Posted December 29, 2024 #566932 Share Posted December 29, 2024 3 hours ago, AussieBob said: I could also tell them how to build roadways and overpasses - but like all ferals who think they are part-all Thai, you think that is 'racist' somehow - or is it just demeaning? What should be done and what can be done are not the same thing. What I can say without fear of contradiction, is that the way they are handling it here does not work very well - nor is how they manage stray dogs. It never occurred to you that the costs outweigh the benefits. Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/36083-for-dog-lovers-only-turkeys-stray-dog-massacre/page/2/#findComment-566932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowslip Posted December 29, 2024 #566933 Share Posted December 29, 2024 22 minutes ago, Khunmark said: It never occurred to you that the costs outweigh the benefits. no-ione ever considers the practicalities of a cull. Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/36083-for-dog-lovers-only-turkeys-stray-dog-massacre/page/2/#findComment-566933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamachigawa Posted December 29, 2024 #566936 Share Posted December 29, 2024 A cull cant work long time in Thailand Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/36083-for-dog-lovers-only-turkeys-stray-dog-massacre/page/2/#findComment-566936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowslip Posted December 29, 2024 #566937 Share Posted December 29, 2024 1 hour ago, Mamachigawa said: A cull cant work long time in Thailand they're proved not to work anywhere. Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/36083-for-dog-lovers-only-turkeys-stray-dog-massacre/page/2/#findComment-566937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnapDragon Posted December 30, 2024 #566958 Share Posted December 30, 2024 I think the big dog pound at Rainham Marshes (Sth West Essex, along the Thames Nth Bank) after WW11, was later turned into a bird sanctuary. Not seen a dog wagon in my Isaan village for many years. They kept the strays in check. And at the same time fed the hungry in Sakon Nakhon. Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/36083-for-dog-lovers-only-turkeys-stray-dog-massacre/page/2/#findComment-566958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowslip Posted December 30, 2024 #566970 Share Posted December 30, 2024 2 hours ago, SnapDragon said: I think the big dog pound at Rainham Marshes (Sth West Essex, along the Thames Nth Bank) after WW11, was later turned into a bird sanctuary. Not seen a dog wagon in my Isaan village for many years. They kept the strays in check. And at the same time fed the hungry in Sakon Nakhon. Eating dogs doesn't help the dog population as it requires a population of dogs to eat. Dog group groups like the SDF often send mobile units around the country to deal with dog problems locally. but the best thing that can be done is to keep garbage under control and educate the public not to feed the dogs - no food, no dogs. If a dog population declines, it is very often not noticed by people living in the area as it is a gradual process - unless you go out counting dogs every day, you just won't notice - even if they've totally gone. Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/36083-for-dog-lovers-only-turkeys-stray-dog-massacre/page/2/#findComment-566970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowslip Posted December 30, 2024 #566975 Share Posted December 30, 2024 error Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/36083-for-dog-lovers-only-turkeys-stray-dog-massacre/page/2/#findComment-566975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieBob Posted December 31, 2024 #567028 Share Posted December 31, 2024 On 12/29/2024 at 8:06 PM, cowslip said: where's you proof Bob? You don't have any - you just dream it up as you go along Korea? South Korea is still actively addressing the issue of stray dogs through various measures, including adoption programs, sterilization campaigns, and efforts to improve animal welfare laws. The current status can vary, but generally, there have been ongoing efforts to reduce the stray dog population and improve their well-being. Historically South Korea, like many countries, has tried culling (the systematic killing of animals) as a method to control stray dog populations. However, there has been global criticism of this approach due to its ineffectiveness in the long term. In recent years, (it doesn't work!). South Korea has been shifting towards methods such as sterilization, adoption programs, and improved animal welfare policies to manage stray dog populations You are stupid - here's my proof. You responded twice because your brain does not work properly. I lived in western Sydney when they started warning everyone (early 70s) that dog catchers are now going to round up all stray dogs. They started that and took them to the dog pound - those not claimed were destroyed. This was done all over Australia because back in those days people let their dogs roam, and the problems with them and the packs of strays, were causing too many problems - houses back then had no tall fences in front. As others have pointed out this was done in various methods at various times in many countries. They are doing it now in Turkey. Only an idiot would say that dogs were not and are still not 'culled' in Sydney, America, UK, Europe etc etc etc. The Koreans eat dogs - you utter idiot. Read my statement again. I dont need to say anymore - there is a lot more I could say, but I will just say this - get out of my life and go far away ken - I for one will not be talking with you again. Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/36083-for-dog-lovers-only-turkeys-stray-dog-massacre/page/2/#findComment-567028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieBob Posted December 31, 2024 #567033 Share Posted December 31, 2024 21 hours ago, cowslip said: error That is for sure. Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/36083-for-dog-lovers-only-turkeys-stray-dog-massacre/page/2/#findComment-567033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieBob Posted December 31, 2024 #567034 Share Posted December 31, 2024 We live in a gated community and one of the many advantages of that, and why so many Thais live in such places, is not because of 'security issues - like in Sth Africa, India etc. It is because of the dog problems. We dont have them in here wandering around. People who own them must stop them barking (and they enforce that). There are no droppings everywhere or anywhere. We dont hear barking dogs or fighting at night. Apparently they round up any strays that stay in the vacant bush nearby. Any dog that does sneak in (not while we have been here yet) are chased and caught with big sticks (beaten a bit if they run) and taken away. It was either that or get a farm with plenty of land/room (too far to a golf course ). Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/36083-for-dog-lovers-only-turkeys-stray-dog-massacre/page/2/#findComment-567034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowslip Posted December 31, 2024 #567051 Share Posted December 31, 2024 6 hours ago, AussieBob said: We live in a gated community and one of the many advantages of that, and why so many Thais live in such places, is not because of 'security issues - like in Sth Africa, India etc. It is because of the dog problems. We dont have them in here wandering around. People who own them must stop them barking (and they enforce that). There are no droppings everywhere or anywhere. We dont hear barking dogs or fighting at night. Apparently they round up any strays that stay in the vacant bush nearby. Any dog that does sneak in (not while we have been here yet) are chased and caught with big sticks (beaten a bit if they run) and taken away. It was either that or get a farm with plenty of land/room (too far to a golf course ). so what is the point you are trying to make? Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/36083-for-dog-lovers-only-turkeys-stray-dog-massacre/page/2/#findComment-567051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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