For dog lover's only - Turkey's Stray Dog Massacre

[1000YearVampire]

See https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13731981/Turkey-stray-dog-massacre-President-Erdogan.html

[Thaidup]

PETA, where are you,------------ shhhh-------- thats a Muslim country. PETA only complains in the countries that pay them.

[AussieBob]

I dont have a problem with this. The dog's destroyed/killed were those strays who behaved aggressively and refused to be taken away - thereby endangering those tasked with collecting them.

However, it is clear some people took matters into their own hands and decided to 'help' the official collectors by killing those local dogs that they had issues with for years.  That must be addressed and stopped - they should continue with the cull.

[cowslip]

Only thing is...culls don't work.

[AussieBob]

On 12/18/2024 at 4:46 PM, cowslip said:

Only thing is...culls don't work.

They certainly help a lot more than doing nothing. 

[cowslip]

3 hours ago, AussieBob said:

They certainly help a lot more than doing nothing. 

No...it just improves the strength of the population.

The dogs culled are rapidly replaced by new liiters...up to 3 a year by stray bitches.

Thenew ones are also are not vaccinated so can spread zoonotic diseases like rabies.

The only effective way is a combination of capture, neuter vaccine and release and sorting put how human garbage is controlled.

So long as there is garbage, there is a food supply for dogs and the population responds accordingly.

It's very arrogant of humans to blame the dogs when it is thehumans fault they are there in the first place.Culls are just a reflection of ignorant the authorities are

[AussieBob]

On 12/20/2024 at 1:52 PM, cowslip said:

No...it just improves the strength of the population.

The dogs culled are rapidly replaced by new liiters...up to 3 a year by stray bitches.

Thenew ones are also are not vaccinated so can spread zoonotic diseases like rabies.

The only effective way is a combination of capture, neuter vaccine and release and sorting put how human garbage is controlled.

So long as there is garbage, there is a food supply for dogs and the population responds accordingly.

It's very arrogant of humans to blame the dogs when it is thehumans fault they are there in the first place.Culls are just a reflection of ignorant the authorities are

Your opinion that seems logical but does not work because it takes a lot of effort to constantly catch and neuter the dogs.  The only clear solution IMO is both - catch and and either neuter or destroy those without a home. That is why we dont have the same dog problems in the west.  

[23RD]

It's a dogs life in a Muslim Country anyone notice how the followers of the ROP like cats very similar to Liberals. 

[AussieBob]

19 hours ago, 23RD said:

It's a dogs life in a Muslim Country anyone notice how the followers of the ROP like cats very similar to Liberals. 

Yes I have noticed that for many decades now. Some cats are OK (a few) - but all dogs are great. 

[cowslip]

On 12/21/2024 at 2:53 PM, AussieBob said:

Your opinion that seems logical but does not work because it takes a lot of effort to constantly catch and neuter the dogs.  The only clear solution IMO is both - catch and and either neuter or destroy those without a home. That is why we dont have the same dog problems in the west.  

It's not what happens in the "west". Look at Netherlands experience 

Garbage in the west etc is not so available to dog populations to grow and people don't feed stray dogs .

Controlling dogs populations once they are small is much easier.

If you kill off dogs in a large population the gaps they leave are instantly filled with dogs from nearby territories.

If you return dogs after CNVR, they refill the gap, but can't breed or spread diseases like rabies. The average street life of a "soi" dog is 3 to 5 years . It's  likely that each female is capable of producing 50-60 puppies, or more,  in fact up to 80 has been known.

The number of dogs in an area is dictated by the food supply...they breed quickly too.

The CNVR has dramatically reduced the number of stray dogs over the last  few years. Because the drop is gradual and not dramatic or 'overnight", people don't realise it's about a 10th of what it used to be.

A similar program is being carried out in Bangkok  and on Samui.