News Forum - 9/11 plotters cut plea deal: No death penalty

[Thaiger]

Three of the key suspects in the September 11, 2001 attacks (9/11) on the United States have reached a secret plea deal. The US Department of Defence confirmed that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Walid Muhammad Salih Mubarak Bin Attash, and Mustafa Ahmed Adam al-Hawsawi have agreed to plead guilty. In exchange, prosecutors will not seek the … …

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[Fanta]

Smart move by the US to not martyr them. 

[23RD]

  On 8/1/2024 at 9:08 AM, Fanta said:

Smart move by the US to not martyr them. 

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Agreed let them rot in comfort in the US Prison System. 

It's a  sad state of affairs were a month short of the 23rd Anniversary of 9/11 and the Democrats let the same people and their supporters protest in New York. 

[ChrisS]

  On 8/1/2024 at 9:49 AM, 23RD said:

Smart move by the US to not martyr them. 

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Yep but maybe put them in prison general population where they will likely suffer a lot before someone finally does them to death.

[23RD]

  On 8/1/2024 at 11:11 AM, ChrisS said:

Yep but maybe put them in prison general population where they will likely suffer a lot before someone finally does them to death.

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Hopefully they get Shanked.

[ChrisS]

  On 8/1/2024 at 11:15 AM, 23RD said:

Hopefully they get Shanked.

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That is what I had in mind but maybe not TOO quickly so they can do a bit of suffering first.

[rattlesnake]

  On 8/1/2024 at 9:49 AM, 23RD said:

Agreed let them rot in comfort in the US Prison System. 

It's a  sad state of affairs were a month short of the 23rd Anniversary of 9/11 and the Democrats let the same people and their supporters protest in New York. 

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It's a bit simplistic to equate Hamas and Al-Qaeda (though the shadow of Israel looms over both those entities).

[Metoo]

  On 8/1/2024 at 11:43 AM, rattlesnake said:

It's a bit simplistic to equate Hamas and Al-Qaeda (though the shadow of Israel looms over both those entities).

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Maybe, but the common denominator is the evil of absurd, mythical religion

[Metoo]

The sooner they wake up to the fact that there is no god, the better for the human race

[rattlesnake]

  On 8/2/2024 at 12:14 AM, Metoo said:

The sooner they wake up to the fact that there is no god, the better for the human race

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I think the issue isn't so much God, but rather a radical vision of God. All these Middle-Eastern countries were peaceful and non-threatening to the West until the 1970s, when Wahhabism was introduced. Wahhabism is not Islam in its original form. The proper way to look at it, IMO, is to look for the ideologies and political mechanisms through which Wahhabism was introduced and disseminated throughout these countries. It didn't happen organically, it was a project. Who was at the helm?

[Marc26]

  On 8/1/2024 at 9:08 AM, Fanta said:

Smart move by the US to not martyr them. 

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It really came down to the US not wanting to go to trial and have the techniques they used for the confessions to be made public....m.

They didn't want the discovery.....

[Fanta]

  On 8/2/2024 at 2:46 PM, Marc26 said:

It really came down to the US not wanting to go to trial and have the techniques they used for the confessions to be made public....m.

They didn't want the discovery.....

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Really? They can just claim state secret, no? It’s common knowledge they water boarded the bejesus out of the goat rapers and likely gifted them copious amounts of free Edison medicine and interesting sleep cycles. They must be bonkers by now and with more than a few regrets  

[TedG]

  On 8/2/2024 at 7:24 AM, rattlesnake said:

I think the issue isn't so much God, but rather a radical vision of God. All these Middle-Eastern countries were peaceful and non-threatening to the West until the 1970s, when Wahhabism was introduced. Wahhabism is not Islam in its original form. The proper way to look at it, IMO, is to look for the ideologies and political mechanisms through which Wahhabism was introduced and disseminated throughout these countries. It didn't happen organically, it was a project. Who was at the helm?

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You can thank Russia (USSR) for this mess. 

[Marc26]

  On 8/2/2024 at 11:57 PM, Fanta said:

Really? They can just claim state secret, no? It’s common knowledge they water boarded the bejesus out of the goat rapers and likely gifted them copious amounts of free Edison medicine and interesting sleep cycles. They must be bonkers by now and with more than a few regrets  

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I read that has what delayed their actual trial for so long

Litigating over what discovery would need to be submitted 

Because I was so confused why the case would still not have gone to trial

[Fanta]

  On 8/3/2024 at 4:29 PM, Marc26 said:

Because I was so confused why the case would still not have gone to trial

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Why even bother with a trial…. the niceties of Western civilization I guess. Apparently Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has revoked the plea deal - he must want them dead or incommunicado forever. Fair enough. 

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/02/politics/plea-deal-9-11-khalid-sheikh-mohammed-revoked-austin/index.html 

[Marc26]

  On 8/4/2024 at 12:14 AM, Fanta said:

Why even bother with a trial…. the niceties of Western civilization I guess. Apparently Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has revoked the plea deal - he must want them dead or incommunicado forever. Fair enough. 

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/02/politics/plea-deal-9-11-khalid-sheikh-mohammed-revoked-austin/index.html 

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It's a shitshow

If Austin didn't know they were giving this plea deal......incompetent 

Or if he backtracked and threw them under the bus.... shady

But it doesn't matter what administration, Republican or Democrat the US constantly falls down and shows you how incompetent they are over and over again

[23RD]

  On 8/4/2024 at 6:44 AM, Marc26 said:

It's a shitshow

If Austin didn't know they were giving this plea deal......incompetent 

Or if he backtracked and threw them under the bus.... shady

But it doesn't matter what administration, Republican or Democrat the US constantly falls down and shows you how incompetent they are over and over again

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Cleanup on aisle 9 ! !!!!