Covid UPDATE Saturday: 21,838 new infections – a new record, news briefs

[Thaiger]

This morning the Thai public health department has announced 21,838 new infections along with 212 Covid-related deaths. 923 of the new cases have emerged from Thai prisons. 21,108 patients have been released from hospitals in the past 24 hours, significantly, nearly the same amount of new cases announced over the past 24 hours. 5,159 patients remain in “serious condition” whilst 1,060 people are currently needing the assistance of ventilators. • 2 chicken processing plants in northeastern Thailand’s Nakhon Ratchasima province have got the bubble/seal treatment after over 100 employees tested positive for Covid. The outbreak from the two poultry factories, which […]

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[Bangkok_Gary]

Covid is spreading exponentially. So it's uncontrolled. Good luck with those reopening plans.

[Robert2020]

getting vaccinated does not mean you can't infect other people. After getting the first dose, you are COVID positive and able to infect others if you do not take safety precautions. 
With the increase of vaccinations, it makes sense that infection rates are skyrocketing.

[AlexPTY]

Apparently, there are another 6K+ positive cases after Antigen Tests which are classified as "probable" and not included in these numbers

Edited August 7, 2021 by AlexPTY

[9S_]

5 minutes ago, Robert2020 said:

getting vaccinated does not mean you can't infect other people. After getting the first dose, you are COVID positive and able to infect others if you do not take safety precautions. 
With the increase of vaccinations, it makes sense that infection rates are skyrocketing.

Absolutely dangerous for world leaders to suggest you can take off your masks and live normally after you received your vaccine. If you say that then your implying that vaccines actually reduce transmission, which they don’t. They reduce hospitalization and deaths. 

[9S_]

29 minutes ago, Bangkok_Gary said:

Covid is spreading exponentially. So it's uncontrolled. Good luck with those reopening plans.

I remember an article a year ago by a Thai university professor proclaiming that “Thai people can’t get covid” due to Thailand’s past experience with outbreaks and excellent medical care

Now in Chonburi is difficult to find a bed. Some of my infected employees wait days for a bed. And We had to send our infected employees back to their home provinces to seek treatment. 

[BlueSphinx]

3 minutes ago, 9S_ said:

Absolutely dangerous for world leaders to suggest you can take off your masks and live normally after you received your vaccine. If you say that then your implying that vaccines actually reduce transmission, which they don’t. They reduce hospitalization and deaths. 

You got that last part right, now one more step in realizing that masks are nothing more than virtue signalling and actually do more harm than providing any benefit. 

[AlexPTY]

50 minutes ago, Thaiger said:

2 chicken processing plants in northeastern Thailand’s Nakhon Ratchasima province have got the bubble/seal treatment

i don't think people will rush to buy chicken meat now

[Grumpyoldman]

9 minutes ago, Robert2020 said:

getting vaccinated does not mean you can't infect other people. After getting the first dose, you are COVID positive and able to infect others if you do not take safety precautions. 
With the increase of vaccinations, it makes sense that infection rates are skyrocketing.

Wrong. So wrong. You are not covid positive. Your body is stimulated to produce antibodies but you do not get covid from a vaccination.

[gummy]

38 minutes ago, Bangkok_Gary said:

Covid is spreading exponentially. So it's uncontrolled. Good luck with those reopening plans.

The only thing this government will need to open are more temporary morques

[Grumpyoldman]

12 minutes ago, 9S_ said:

Absolutely dangerous for world leaders to suggest you can take off your masks and live normally after you received your vaccine. If you say that then your implying that vaccines actually reduce transmission, which they don’t. They reduce hospitalization and deaths. 

Well they do reduce transmission because they reduce the viral load in your body and that's how they protect you from serious illness. But the operative word is reduce, not eliminate.

 

At some point everyone has to realise that even before vaccinations, of those testing positive (so not the whole population) 97%+ didn't get ill enough for anything more than bed rest to be an effective treatment and world wide death rates are tiny.... something in the order of 0.05% to population.

On statistical evidence and with vaccinations now available it is long overdue that we live normal lives.

I also believe topping up ones protection with Ivermectin, vitamins C and D and Zinc is a risk free option.

[gummy]

11 minutes ago, Grumpyoldman said:

Well they do reduce transmission because they reduce the viral load in your body and that's how they protect you from serious illness. But the operative word is reduce, not eliminate.

At some point everyone has to realise that even before vaccinations, of those testing positive (so not the whole population) 97%+ didn't get ill enough for anything more than bed rest to be an effective treatment and world wide death rates are tiny.... something in the order of 0.05% to population.

On statistical evidence and with vaccinations now available it is long overdue that we live normal lives.

I also believe topping up ones protection with Ivermectin, vitamins C and D and Zinc is a risk free option.

This guy believed a lot himself also 

 

[ozz1]

nooo the pm said its going away in a week somehow i dont believe him

[pascal]

1 hour ago, Robert2020 said:

getting vaccinated does not mean you can't infect other people. After getting the first dose, you are COVID positive and able to infect others if you do not take safety precautions. 
With the increase of vaccinations, it makes sense that infection rates are skyrocketing.

ahahahaha omg ........ really lol

[Malc-Thai]

2 hours ago, Robert2020 said:

getting vaccinated does not mean you can't infect other people. After getting the first dose, you are COVID positive and able to infect others if you do not take safety precautions. 
With the increase of vaccinations, it makes sense that infection rates are skyrocketing.

You need to learn what a covid virus is and how it spreads and then how the different vaccines work

[Nobodysfriend]

2 hours ago, Grumpyoldman said:

Well they do reduce transmission because they reduce the viral load in your body and that's how they protect you from serious illness. But the operative word is reduce, not eliminate.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/6/nearly-35-percent-of-uk-delta-hospitalisations-fully-vaccinated

" PHE’s findings chime with those from the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which last week raised concerns that vaccinated people infected with Delta could, unlike with other variants, readily transmit it.

 

Vaccines have been shown to provide good protection against severe disease and death from Delta, especially with two doses, but there is less data on whether vaccinated people can still transmit it to others.

“Some initial findings … indicate that levels of virus in those who become infected with Delta having already been vaccinated may be similar to levels found in unvaccinated people,” PHE said. "

 

BtW :

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/6/as-thailands-covid-cases-soar-government-takes-critics-to-court

" Bangkok, Thailand – Authorities in Thailand are facing allegations of using lawsuits and new emergency decrees to fend off a rising tide of public anger about their handling of the COVID-19 pandemic as the country’s infection rate and death toll continue to hit record highs.

Officials insist the moves are aimed strictly at those spreading false and misleading information, but their latest decree could let authorities block online reports that may “instigate fear” even if true, lawyers and rights groups said. "

 

Not allowed to even tell the truth anymore if it could “instigate fear” .

You can be sued by the thai government for this now .

 

Edited August 7, 2021 by Nobodysfriend

[Nobodysfriend]

 

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/6/as-thailands-covid-cases-soar-government-takes-critics-to-court

Government bullying

Sudarat told Al Jazeera she was pressing ahead with the petition and, with more than 800,000 signatures to date, would be filing her suit in criminal court next week.

She said the petition fell well within her constitutional rights and that the government’s countersuit was meant to bully not only her but other would-be critics into silence.

“The government is not only suing us, it is suing everyone who is now calling out the mismanagement that is happening during COVID-19,” she said.

“They intentionally use the law to intimidate people, and they’re violating the constitutional rights and the basic rights of the people.”

Let's hope that time is running out for this apparently totally incompetent and autocratic government .

 

Edited August 7, 2021 by Nobodysfriend

[Nobodysfriend]

From the above mentioned source :

 

" They said it bans not only any communication about the pandemic that is false or misleading but that may, quoting from the order, “instigate fear” whether or not the information is true.

Offenders could spend up to two years in jail.

Policing digital communication

If that communication happens online, the sub-decree also orders the National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission to tell internet service providers to identify the IP, or internet protocol, address from where it originated and block it, then hand the information over to police.

 

Better be careful with what we are posting now ...

 

[9S_]

2 hours ago, ozz1 said:

nooo the pm said its going away in a week somehow i dont believe him

IHMI projects the peak around the same time PM says we will reopen around that time it will be 50,000-70,000 per day. 

[King Cotton]

16 minutes ago, 9S_ said:

2 hours ago, ozz1 said:

nooo the pm said its going away in a week somehow i dont believe him

IHMI projects the peak around the same time PM says we will reopen around that time it will be 50,000-70,000 per day. 

What . . . you're suggesting that he who has complete control over everything might just possibly be wrong? My trusty Excel told me he was bound to be wrong, within minutes of him blowing his trumpet. But, I guess they don't have such modern ways of working things out at Govt House.

[Graham]

Pathetic effort from an even more than pathetic government, none of them could run a kindergarten effectively. 

[gummy]

4 minutes ago, Graham said:

Pathetic effort from an even more than pathetic government, none of them could run a kindergarten effectively. 

Don't mention kindergartens as you will get the Catholic Priests interested in this thread.

Edited August 7, 2021 by King Cotton
Deleted a double quote, that's all!

[pascal]

well i would say this military government just loose the war against a very tiny enemy, i m wondering what it could be against a real army. it s is concerning ........how these high ranking officer with a shirt full of medal and bling bling insignes did get their nomination ? don t they have military academy to instruct them on how to apply strategies and tactics against an opponent ?????? i bet they did pay someone to obtain their diploma. 

[Paco]

8 hours ago, 9S_ said:

I remember an article a year ago by a Thai university professor proclaiming that “Thai people can’t get covid” due to Thailand’s past experience with outbreaks and excellent medical care

Now in Chonburi is difficult to find a bed. Some of my infected employees wait days for a bed. And We had to send our infected employees back to their home provinces to seek treatment. 

I remember that too    

[Paco]

6 hours ago, Nobodysfriend said:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/6/nearly-35-percent-of-uk-delta-hospitalisations-fully-vaccinated

" PHE’s findings chime with those from the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which last week raised concerns that vaccinated people infected with Delta could, unlike with other variants, readily transmit it.

 

Vaccines have been shown to provide good protection against severe disease and death from Delta, especially with two doses, but there is less data on whether vaccinated people can still transmit it to others.

“Some initial findings … indicate that levels of virus in those who become infected with Delta having already been vaccinated may be similar to levels found in unvaccinated people,” PHE said. "

BtW :

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/6/as-thailands-covid-cases-soar-government-takes-critics-to-court

" Bangkok, Thailand – Authorities in Thailand are facing allegations of using lawsuits and new emergency decrees to fend off a rising tide of public anger about their handling of the COVID-19 pandemic as the country’s infection rate and death toll continue to hit record highs.

Officials insist the moves are aimed strictly at those spreading false and misleading information, but their latest decree could let authorities block online reports that may “instigate fear” even if true, lawyers and rights groups said. "

Not allowed to even tell the truth anymore if it could “instigate fear” .

You can be sued by the thai government for this now .

So 1 option you have left .. you can not say anything that is what they want telling lies like always and having control  ☺ what a joke want I post covid update of 2 months ago??? Where is the control all provinces went around the 200% up with cases or more