News Forum - Bangkok holds five-day Pride fest to boost LGBTQ+ tourism

[Thaiger]

Thailand is gearing up to host a five-day Pride event in Bangkok, aiming to establish itself as Asia’s rainbow capital. This event, organised by the government alongside private and civil sectors, will feature a series of activities running from May 31 to June 4 under the theme Celebration of Love. Ann Chumaporn, founder and president … …

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[LeReynard]

Westernising crap. For most of European history, homosexuality was a thought or a behavior. Regardless any biological cause, the homosexuals are not a category of human, like a genetic cluster, or race. Ergo nothing to have 'pride' about as an identity, if the identity is recently invented.

Also trans is not sexual orientation. I think it's obvious that juxtaposing gay men with trans, is an association rooted in well known stereotypes about both. Stereotypes sadly related both to ostracism and bullying, and even worse, for both homosexual men and transwomen. Gays are "sissies", transsexuals are "faggots in a dress".

Intersex certainly isn't, and the trend of including both queer (purely chosen) and intersex (purely not chosen) in the alphabet people, shows how lacking the concept actually is. How sensible it is, to be proud of entirely unrelated things, and all at the same time!

[Pinetree]

Where is the 5 day straight persons celebration?  I am heartedly sick of having LGBTQ++ rammed down my throat at every turn. Live your life how you want, I don't care, but neither do I want it paraded in my face like it's some wonderful  example of personal heroism. 

[Khunmark]

Modern western society has come along way. In decades past these communities would have been in fear of their lives for airing their true expressions of themselves. In many parts of the world the these communities live in fear. The event is a unifying occasion for who have been historically marginalised by society. And like Song Krang, participation is optional. If you don’t like it don’t attend. It’s that simple.

[Pinetree]

3 hours ago, Khunmark said:

Modern western society has come along way. In decades past these communities would have been in fear of their lives for airing their true expressions of themselves. In many parts of the world the these communities live in fear. The event is a unifying occasion for who have been historically marginalised by society. And like Song Krang, participation is optional. If you don’t like it don’t attend. It’s that simple.

The more of this kind of parading the less support these communities seem to get.  They are quite rightly and in most societies, protected both in law and in the attitude of most right thinking people, so my message would be,  be thankful for that and don't go and reverse the process by over the top and too regular public actions.  The simple fact is that LGBTQ++ have little to no common attitudes and characters.  Its a false grouping that does not do their separate causes much good in PR terms.  

[LeReynard]

6 hours ago, Khunmark said:

Modern western society has come along way. In decades past these communities would have been in fear of their lives for airing their true expressions of themselves.

Where were they gearing for their lives in a Western society? It was exceedingly rare, since the Enlightenment at least, for homosexuals to 'fear for their lives'. Even in Nazi Germany, death was only for homosexuals found in certain institutions, and a backlash to the attempted coup by the SA, who were seen as homosexual. No one in Germany was killed simply for homosexuality. And they certainly were not in England, France etc within living memory. Or that of a generation earlier. Which would surely cover 'decades past'.

6 hours ago, Khunmark said:

 

In many parts of the world the these communities live in fear.

Yes of Islamic and traditional African cultures. In South through to East Asia, the taboo barely exists. Also, in Christian Latin America, there is very low condemnation.

6 hours ago, Khunmark said:

 

The event is a unifying occasion for who have been historically marginalised by society.

Where? In Thailand?

6 hours ago, Khunmark said:

 

 

 

[MrStretch]

I don't have a problem with this "Pride Festival".  It's a marketing gimmick.

People who identify with this alphabet soup have money to spend and the government is just getting them to spend it in a directed way.

You can like or not like the trend of LGBTQ+, what it was, what it is, and what it will be.  This hasn't anything to do with you, if you're not a member of that community.

No one is invading your bedroom, so relax, and stay out of theirs.

[Khunmark]

12 hours ago, LeReynard said:

Enlightenment at least, for homosexuals to 'fear for their lives'. Even in Nazi Germany, death was only for homosexuals found in certain institutions, and a backlash to the attempted coup by the SA, who were seen as homosexual. No one in Germany was killed simply for homosexuality. And they certainly were not in England, France etc within living memory. Or that of a generation earlier. Which would surely cover 'decades past'.

So you’re promoting the idea that in these countries gay people have never been subject to physical abuse or threats of violence by anyone? That’s a wildly inaccurate observation. 

 

12 hours ago, LeReynard said:

In South through to East Asia, the taboo barely exists. Also, in Christian Latin America, there is very low condemnation

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/26/americas/lgbt-rights-in-the-americas/index.html
https://www.undp.org/thailand/publications/tolerance-not-inclusion

Where is your evidence to support this claim? Or is this just a hunch of yours?

[Pinetree]

12 hours ago, MrStretch said:

This hasn't anything to do with you, if you're not a member of that community.

Exactly, so why ram it down the throat of the rest of us with pride marches, flags, rainbow toys etc. My message, get on and live your life, the rest of us are not interested. The US and UK Military are even holding Pride Days and flying Rainbow flags on Warships and Air Stations.  This is highly inappropriate and immensely irritating to many, serving and veterans.  And it is counter productive in terms of ongoing support for that false grouping. 

 How about a 'Vegan Day' (do they have a flag yet? )  

[Fanta]

12 minutes ago, Pinetree said:

How about a 'Vegan Day' (do they have a flag yet? )  

No. They tried but like their dinner plates they had nothing good to put on it. 

[ChicagoExpat]

16 minutes ago, Fanta said:

No. They tried but like their dinner plates they had nothing good to put on it. 

Ba dum bum!  I'll be here all week, folks!

[SnapDragon]

16 hours ago, Pinetree said:

The simple fact is that LGBTQ++ have little to no common attitudes and characters.  Its a false grouping that does not do their separate causes much good in PR terms. 

Can't really point the finger at Climate Change for this.

Could female hormones in the tap water be a contributing factor? I drink bottled water; just in case.

[Pinetree]

1 minute ago, SnapDragon said:

Can't really point the finger at Climate Change for this.

Could female hormones in the tap water be a contributing factor? I drink bottled water; just in case.

Probably attributed to Covid, as most things seem to be on this forum. 

[SnapDragon]

52 minutes ago, Pinetree said:

How about a 'Vegan Day' (do they have a flag yet?

What about 'Bar Girl Day'?

Would be very popular and put Bangkok on the tourist map.

[Pinetree]

2 minutes ago, SnapDragon said:

What about 'Bar Girl Day'?

Would be very popular and put Bangkok on the tourist map.

I would support that idea 

[23RD]

Walk down Soi Buakhao in Pattaya any night of the week it's like a Pride Parade bloke's in lycra dresses everywhere it's like they've been breeding them since Covid. 

[23RD]

18 minutes ago, SnapDragon said:

What about 'Bar Girl Day'?

Would be very popular and put Bangkok on the tourist map.

Excellent idea SnapDragon Bud it would be a good one for Soi 6 Pattaya as well they love dressing and parties and recognition for they're hard work over the year. 

[LeReynard]

4 hours ago, SnapDragon said:

Can't really point the finger at Climate Change for this.

Could female hormones in the tap water be a contributing factor? I drink bottled water; just in case.

Xenoestrogens entering natural environments, are thought to contribute to causing freshwater fish and frogs, to 'turn gay' or 'change sex', as it was reported in the media. Including behavioural and physical traits atypical for their sex. Given that humans too are vertebrates, you do wonder why more people today, seem to be 'born that way'.

[LeReynard]

5 hours ago, Pinetree said:

 

How about a 'Vegan Day' (do they have a flag yet? )  

Veganism is a choice. Increasingly, gay identities are based on the notion, that homosexuality is not conditioned, but essential. And thus equal to consideration of race. It's not a useful comparison.

[LeReynard]

5 hours ago, Khunmark said:

 

Where is your evidence to support this claim? Or is this just a hunch of yours?

In the HBD community, discussion of issues such as this are widespread. For example, one recent graph circulated, plotted the creative openness of national populations, to homosexual marriage and religiosity.

African cultures and those with Islamic heritage, were most against homosexual equality, and had high religiosity. Europeans, South Asians, and East Asians were less against homosexuaity, and had little interest in religion. Latin Americans were outliers, favouring homosexual equality whilst remaining comparatively religious.

[Khunmark]

29 minutes ago, LeReynard said:

In the HBD community, discussion of issues such as this are widespread. For example, one recent graph circulated, plotted the creative openness of national populations, to homosexual marriage and religiosity.

African cultures and those with Islamic heritage, were most against homosexual equality, and had high religiosity. Europeans, South Asians, and East Asians were less against homosexuaity, and had little interest in religion. Latin Americans were outliers, favouring homosexual equality whilst remaining comparatively religious.

Yeah. Thanks Karolyn.