News Forum - Iranian president, foreign minister killed in tragic helicopter crash

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Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi and his foreign minister were tragically killed in a helicopter crash amidst mountainous terrain and icy weather, as reported by state media. The wreckage was located in East Azerbaijan province after search teams mobilized. State TV initially provided no immediate cause for yesterday’s crash in Iran’s East Azerbaijan province. Among the … …

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[Pinetree]

Sorry to those who are more sensitive than I , but my reaction was 'good, excellent news'.  The World is a much better and safer place without him in it.  I bet there are not many tears being shed among the majority of Iranians. 

[23RD]

GOOD STRIKE ! !!!!!

[butterfly]

kind of a good news,

but the next one might be far worse,

what if Mossad was involved,

that would open a new can of worms

[rattlesnake]

 

Iranian President Raisi: What is his legacy?

Raisi's political course of action was friendship with neighbors and regional allied powers, but not Europe and the West.

Under Ebrahim Raisi:

Iran became a full member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO);

Iran became a member of BRICS;

Iran has become a major stakeholder in the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU);

Iran has managed to resume and strengthen diplomatic relations with a number of Arab neighbors and African countries: Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Egypt, Libya, Sudan, Djibouti, Maldives;

Iran made the British pay their debt: £400 million for the contract to supply Chieftain tanks, which was canceled in 1979;

Iran has maximized oil production, even exceeding the sanctions level: 3.4 million barrels per day;

It was under President Raisi that Iran for the first time conducted a large-scale operation against Israel - firing rockets from its territory;

Russian-Iranian relations have reached a new level both in military-political cooperation and trade: trade turnover between Moscow and Tehran has grown to $4 billion; a visa-free regime for tourists has also begun to operate between the countries.

 

[SnapDragon]

2 hours ago, Pinetree said:

Sorry to those who are more sensitive than I , but my reaction was 'good, excellent news'.  The World is a much better and safer place without him in it.  I bet there are not many tears being shed among the majority of Iranians. 

He will be superseded; will he not?

[LeReynard]

The Iranian Revolution was the late 20th century's only attempt to create a modernist alternative, to the US and USSR models. Whatever the flaws of their regime, they did avoid the worst flaws, taunting the West and the East.

[SnapDragon]

4 minutes ago, LeReynard said:

The Iranian Revolution was the late 20th century's only attempt to create a modernist alternative, to the US and USSR models. Whatever the flaws of their regime, they did avoid the worst flaws, taunting the West and the East.

The US and UK virtually owned Iran after ww11. The Shah of Iran was driven out in 1979 and Iran has been demonized ever since.

[rattlesnake]

22 minutes ago, SnapDragon said:

The US and UK virtually owned Iran after ww11. The Shah of Iran was driven out in 1979 and Iran has been demonized ever since.

Absolutely, then they deliberately installed the radical Ayatollah Khomeini to replace him, and the "dangerous Islamic Iran" theatre play was launched.

[rattlesnake]

1 hour ago, LeReynard said:

The Iranian Revolution was the late 20th century's only attempt to create a modernist alternative, to the US and USSR models. Whatever the flaws of their regime, they did avoid the worst flaws, taunting the West and the East.

The US and Israel were neck-deep in this colour revolution and regime change, which caused Iran a lot of grief and provided justification for the American-Zionist geopolitical agenda at the time, which was to disrupt the Middle East and create a new enemy which until then did not exist, the "radical Muslim".

[Vigo]

The double standards and hypocrisy of the usual group are on display. Ebrahim Raisi's legacy is one of death, torture, brutality and pain. This is the man who is responsible for the brutal executions of thousands of Iranians as his Islamic committee condemned dissidents to death. A dissident was anyone who disagreed with the regime. Women, teenagers, farmers, educators, lawyers and journalists. No one was safe.The families of the executed were denied the returned of the bodies to prevent autopsies and denied an opportunity to bury loved ones. Women saw their human rights further eroded as strict dress codes were imposed and requirements for family male permission required for some activities. The very people praising the man would not be allowed any freedom of speech in Iran and do so now from the protection of nations that do not share the Iranian Shiite extremism. 

16 million are displaced and 600,000+ dead in Syria because of Iranian support for Assad. 1 million+ are displaced and 400,000+ dead in Yemen because of the Iranian induced civil war and Houthi attack on the  legitimate government. Under his administration, Iran prioritized funding   the Shiite Corps Quds Force, over social spending and spent billions of Euro supporting proxy militias and terrorists in Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen, North Africa and Gaza. This is money that Iranians desperately needed. The Raisi regime prioritized Shiite religious goals, war, terror and destruction over peace and social development. Iran could find no money to help  muslim refugees from Syria or muslim uyghur's in China, but it could find the money to harass and attack Iranian dissident refugees in the UK and Canada.

176 people were killed when Iran shot down a Ukrainian civilian aircraft. The  Raisi regime refused to cooperate with the designated organizations to investigate. Hundreds if not thousands of innocents perished in Iran under mysterious circumstances. For example, Zahra Kazemi a 51 year old journalist  died "of a brain haemorrhage resulting from beatings", which the Iranian  government finally admitted occurred while the woman was in custody.

And yet the praise in this form is effusive. The man is no hero.

[Vigo]

5 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

The US and Israel were neck-deep in this colour revolution and regime change, which caused Iran a lot of grief and provided justification for the American-Zionist geopolitical agenda at the time, which was to disrupt the Middle East and create a new enemy which until then did not exist, the "radical Muslim".

Always blaming USA and Israel. 

[butterfly]

1 hour ago, Vigo said:

The man is no hero.

he was a brutal murderer,

good riddance,

I note the US ambassador to the UN did stand up for a minute of silence at the UNGA

I do hope Israel has nothing to do with it,

because that would be another can of worms we don't need to open at this stage

[Pinetree]

18 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

Iranian President Raisi: What is his legacy?

Raisi's political course of action was friendship with neighbors and regional allied powers, but not Europe and the West.

Under Ebrahim Raisi:

Iran became a full member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO);

Iran became a member of BRICS;

Iran has become a major stakeholder in the Eurasian Economic Union (EAEU);

Iran has managed to resume and strengthen diplomatic relations with a number of Arab neighbors and African countries: Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Egypt, Libya, Sudan, Djibouti, Maldives;

Iran made the British pay their debt: £400 million for the contract to supply Chieftain tanks, which was canceled in 1979;

Iran has maximized oil production, even exceeding the sanctions level: 3.4 million barrels per day;

It was under President Raisi that Iran for the first time conducted a large-scale operation against Israel - firing rockets from its territory;

Russian-Iranian relations have reached a new level both in military-political cooperation and trade: trade turnover between Moscow and Tehran has grown to $4 billion; a visa-free regime for tourists has also begun to operate between the countries.

You forgot to mention his support for World terrorism, and being directly responsible for the Gaza war,  his suppression of freedoms and the killing of 400,000 of his own people and lets not forget his obvious  hated of women.  He was a real hero Eh?  If there is a hell,. he is burning in it, as he did on his very fortunate death.  The tragedy of the crash is that he probably didn't suffer, but one can only hope that he did. 

[SnapDragon]

1 hour ago, Pinetree said:

You forgot to mention his support for World terrorism, and being directly responsible for the Gaza war,,,,,,.

Utter nonsense Mr Pinetree.

Israel is wholly responsible for the 'Gaza war'. If murdering women and children can be called that.

'World terrorism'!! Point the finger at the west for that.

[ChicagoExpat]

20 hours ago, LeReynard said:

The Iranian Revolution was the late 20th century's only attempt to create a modernist alternative, to the US and USSR models. Whatever the flaws of their regime, they did avoid the worst flaws, taunting the West and the East.

That's a pretty bizarre take.  They created lots of new, worse flaws.

[ChicagoExpat]

18 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

The US and Israel were neck-deep in this colour revolution and regime change, which caused Iran a lot of grief and provided justification for the American-Zionist geopolitical agenda at the time, which was to disrupt the Middle East and create a new enemy which until then did not exist, the "radical Muslim".

"Color revolution"!  >>DRINK<<

[ChicagoExpat]

19 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

Absolutely, then they deliberately installed the radical Ayatollah Khomeini to replace him, and the "dangerous Islamic Iran" theatre play was launched.

Ah, yes, EVERYTHING that happens in the world is done by the U.S. and Israel!  Those crafty JOOOOS are behind everything!  This includes the creation of literally every single Muslim terrorist group.  The wonderful aspect to this is that you get to blame USA and the crafty JOOOOS for the crimes of these groups, the perfidy of creating someone just to give an excuse for hating an entire nation, AND incompetence when these same groups cause their alleged creators deaths and pain.  It's an evidence-free threefer!

Things the USA and crafty JOOOOS did done:
Hamas, ISIS, the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, the Ukraine War, October 7, 9/11, JFK's murder, KAL007, Malaysian Air 370 and 17, MLK's murder, sell Saddam WMDs AFTER the first Gulf War.

Please add to the list!  This is great fun.

[butterfly]

at least Iranians around the world were celebrating something positive about Iran

[butterfly]

the fall of the Shah only happened after the US dropped their support for his brutal regime

the US didn't encourage the change,

it just happened and the US let it happened,

at least for once, they didn't intervene

but they should have,

[butterfly]

I note that traditionally Iran never had a problem with Israel

Jewish communities existed in Iran,

the problem is the interpretation of Islam for political reasons

These guys could be communists,

or right wing Evangelists (think Gilead in the handmaid's tale)

and they would be as totalitarians as they are now

[rattlesnake]

1 hour ago, ChicagoExpat said:

Ah, yes, EVERYTHING that happens in the world is done by the U.S. and Israel!  Those crafty JOOOOS are behind everything!  This includes the creation of literally every single Muslim terrorist group.  The wonderful aspect to this is that you get to blame USA and the crafty JOOOOS for the crimes of these groups, the perfidy of creating someone just to give an excuse for hating an entire nation, AND incompetence when these same groups cause their alleged creators deaths and pain.  It's an evidence-free threefer!

Things the USA and crafty JOOOOS did done:
Hamas, ISIS, the Taliban, Al-Qaeda, the Ukraine War, October 7, 9/11, JFK's murder, KAL007, Malaysian Air 370 and 17, MLK's murder, sell Saddam WMDs AFTER the first Gulf War.

Please add to the list!  This is great fun.

Don't put words in my mouth, I am talking about the Zionists.

[rattlesnake]

1 hour ago, butterfly said:

I note that traditionally Iran never had a problem with Israel

Jewish communities existed in Iran,

the problem is the interpretation of Islam for political reasons

These guys could be communists,

or right wing Evangelists (think Gilead in the handmaid's tale)

and they would be as totalitarians as they are now

Yes, Iran has the largest Jewish population of the Middle East after Israel and they are fully integrated in society.

 

Edited May 21 by rattlesnake

[ChicagoExpat]

18 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Don't put words in my mouth, I am talking about the Zionists.

I'm not sure that I really am.  You literally blamed the installation of the Ayatollah on the U.S. and Israel.  Is there any part of that list you'd say WASN'T caused by the U.S. and/or the Jews?

[rattlesnake]

16 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said:

I'm not sure that I really am.  You literally blamed the installation of the Ayatollah on the U.S. and Israel.  Is there any part of that list you'd say WASN'T caused by the U.S. and/or the Jews?

Perhaps you don't understand the difference between a Zionist and a Jew. In any case, when quoting me, please use the term I use, which is "Zionists".

The answer to your question is yes, apart from KAL007 which I have not researched on.