Andrew Reeve Posted July 29, 2021 #22662 Share Posted July 29, 2021 The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the United States recently suggested universal masking in schools and high-transmission regions. According to the CDC, the mask advise is necessary due to an increase in Covid-19 infections, particularly among the unvaccinated. Nearly a third of those who are eligible for the vaccine in the United States have declined to receive it. Approximately 67 percent of eligible citizens have gotten at least one dose, and 58 percent have received all three doses. So, how much do we know about the unvaccinated one-third of the population? It's more likely that they will be Republican than Democrat. According to most polls, between 50 percent and 60 percent of Republican adults are vaccinated, while 80 percent to 90 percent of Democratic individuals are vaccinated. They'll most likely be in their early twenties. About 90 percent of Americans aged 65 and above have received at least one dose, compared to little over half of those aged 18 to 24. That percentage is even lower for 12- to 17-year-olds. They're probably black or Hispanic. Although this number is more difficult to track because to variations among state agencies and sample sizes, 48 percent of White Americans have received at least one dose, compared to 41 percent of Hispanics and 38 percent of Black Americans. When asked why they are hesitant to obtain the vaccination, Republicans say it is too new, they are concerned about side effects, they do not trust the government, they do not believe they need it, or they simply do not want to get it. Meanwhile, 55 percent of Black Americans who are vaccination hesitant are concerned about side effects, and 65 percent of those under 30 believe the vaccine is unnecessary. Unvaccinated White adults, on the other hand, claim they'll never get the vaccine. It's only 26% among Black and Hispanic people. Source: CNN 1 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrStretch Posted July 29, 2021 #22686 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Stupidity comes in all shapes and sizes. What you'll find out, in these demographic groups, is that they have the lowest levels of completed education in the country. Most of those that are mentioned in the story live in rural areas or in the smaller and middle-sized cities in the US. Even with their heroes; Sean Hannity and Cheeto Jesus now recommending they get a shot, they hold onto their "freedom and liberty" by remaining public health hazards. As one governer said this week about her own constituents, "It's the unvaccinated folk that are letting us down." 1 1 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-22686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disenfranchised Posted July 30, 2021 #23049 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Mr Stretch, I assume you are talking about the segment of population who sent a (so many derogarive ways to describe him) to the White House 6 years ago. 2 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-23049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
longwood50 Posted July 30, 2021 #23131 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) On 7/29/2021 at 9:40 AM, Andrew Reeve said: It's more likely that they will be Republican than Democrat. According to most polls, between 50 percent and 60 percent of Republican adults are vaccinated, while 80 percent to 90 percent of Democratic individuals are vaccinated. Expand I don't know where these figures came from however the statistics seem be contradictory in some respects. It says between 80% to 90% of Democrat individuals are vaccinated. Yet the numbers dwindle among Blacks and Hispanics. Given that Blacks represent approximately 13% of the population and Hispanics about 15% Case in point Biden got 87% of the Black vote, and an estimated 58% of the Latino vote. So if racial minorities which make up a substantial percentage of the Democratic base, how can upwards of 90% of Democrats be vaccinated? The reality is that somehow the author of this survey was attempting to portray either a political or racial aspect to getting vaccinated. You can choose whatever characteristic you want age, race, sex, religion, height, weight, eye color, baldness and draw a correlation between the percentage of people vaccinated and that characteristic. That correlation is meaningless just as the one between political affiliation and vaccination rates is. Edited July 30, 2021 by longwood50 2 2 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-23131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoongFred Posted August 4, 2021 #27056 Share Posted August 4, 2021 On 7/29/2021 at 9:40 AM, Andrew Reeve said: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in the United States recently suggested universal masking in schools and high-transmission regions. According to the CDC, the mask advise is necessary due to an increase in Covid-19 infections, particularly among the unvaccinated. Nearly a third of those who are eligible for the vaccine in the United States have declined to receive it. Approximately 67 percent of eligible citizens have gotten at least one dose, and 58 percent have received all three doses. So, how much do we know about the unvaccinated one-third of the population? It's more likely that they will be Republican than Democrat. According to most polls, between 50 percent and 60 percent of Republican adults are vaccinated, while 80 percent to 90 percent of Democratic individuals are vaccinated. They'll most likely be in their early twenties. About 90 percent of Americans aged 65 and above have received at least one dose, compared to little over half of those aged 18 to 24. That percentage is even lower for 12- to 17-year-olds. They're probably black or Hispanic. Although this number is more difficult to track because to variations among state agencies and sample sizes, 48 percent of White Americans have received at least one dose, compared to 41 percent of Hispanics and 38 percent of Black Americans. When asked why they are hesitant to obtain the vaccination, Republicans say it is too new, they are concerned about side effects, they do not trust the government, they do not believe they need it, or they simply do not want to get it. Meanwhile, 55 percent of Black Americans who are vaccination hesitant are concerned about side effects, and 65 percent of those under 30 believe the vaccine is unnecessary. Unvaccinated White adults, on the other hand, claim they'll never get the vaccine. It's only 26% among Black and Hispanic people. Source: CNN Expand The source is CNN so it obviously political. Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-27056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithydog Posted August 5, 2021 #27472 Share Posted August 5, 2021 The CDC has been tracking US vaccination data based on demographics. It can be found at: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccination-demographic I'll just offer the above as a source for others research if desired. Sorry, but I haven't had any spare time to study and try and understand to offer any opinion for debate. 1 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-27472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poolie Posted August 5, 2021 #27477 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 7/29/2021 at 10:27 AM, MrStretch said: Stupidity comes in all shapes and sizes. Expand In this case fat and round. They'll never learn will they? Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-27477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted August 5, 2021 #27489 Share Posted August 5, 2021 the source of the op's topic is CNN. Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-27489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcambl61 Posted August 5, 2021 #27523 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 7/30/2021 at 3:35 AM, Disenfranchised said: Mr Stretch, I assume you are talking about the segment of population who sent a (so many derogarive ways to describe him) to the White House 6 years ago. Expand Just can't help yourself with the ridiculous off topic unfounded slight against those who disagree with your ideology. Very sad. Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-27523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcambl61 Posted August 5, 2021 #27527 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 3:58 AM, NCC1701A said: the source of the op's topic is CNN. Expand Which is why it is so untrue and biased. Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-27527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcambl61 Posted August 5, 2021 #27529 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 3:47 AM, Poolie said: In this case fat and round. They'll never learn will they? Expand They? Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-27529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcambl61 Posted August 5, 2021 #27534 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 7/29/2021 at 10:27 AM, MrStretch said: Stupidity comes in all shapes and sizes. What you'll find out, in these demographic groups, is that they have the lowest levels of completed education in the country. Most of those that are mentioned in the story live in rural areas or in the smaller and middle-sized cities in the US. Even with their heroes; Sean Hannity and Cheeto Jesus now recommending they get a shot, they hold onto their "freedom and liberty" by remaining public health hazards. As one governer said this week about her own constituents, "It's the unvaccinated folk that are letting us down." Expand Can you back up your assertions with verifiable reference please? Or is this just another political virtue signaling rant? Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-27534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poolie Posted August 5, 2021 #27537 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 4:38 AM, mcambl61 said: They? Expand Americans. 43% of them. And thats just the adults. https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-27537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcambl61 Posted August 5, 2021 #27563 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 4:42 AM, Poolie said: Americans. 43% of them. And thats just the adults. https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.htm Expand Are you now doing the fat shaming thing to add to the virtue signaling? Seems very immature. And totally unnecessary. But since we're on the subject... Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-27563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
billywillyjones Posted August 5, 2021 #27564 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 7/29/2021 at 10:27 AM, MrStretch said: Stupidity comes in all shapes and sizes. What you'll find out, in these demographic groups, is that they have the lowest levels of completed education in the country. Most of those that are mentioned in the story live in rural areas or in the smaller and middle-sized cities in the US. Even with their heroes; Sean Hannity and Cheeto Jesus now recommending they get a shot, they hold onto their "freedom and liberty" by remaining public health hazards. As one governer said this week about her own constituents, "It's the unvaccinated folk that are letting us down." Expand Ridiculous assertion. Have a look at all the top flight virologists examining and questioning the safety of what really are experimental vaccines. And explain how someone is a health risk to someone who is vaccinated particularly after the CDC has just said that vaccinated carry the virus. Explain this for the board please. Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-27564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poolie Posted August 5, 2021 #27572 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 5:02 AM, mcambl61 said: Are you now doing the fat shaming thing to add to the virtue signaling? Seems very immature. And totally unnecessary. But since we're on the subject... Expand Yeah. Oooo look a squirrel! Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-27572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
9S_ Posted August 5, 2021 #27573 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 7/29/2021 at 9:40 AM, Andrew Reeve said: It's more likely that they will be Republican than Democrat. According to most polls Expand On 7/29/2021 at 9:40 AM, Andrew Reeve said: They're probably black or Hispanic Expand That right there is a contradiction 1 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-27573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
9S_ Posted August 5, 2021 #27574 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 7/29/2021 at 10:27 AM, MrStretch said: Stupidity comes in all shapes and sizes. What you'll find out, in these demographic groups, is that they have the lowest levels of completed education in the country. Most of those that are mentioned in the story live in rural areas or in the smaller and middle-sized cities in the US. Even with their heroes; Sean Hannity and Cheeto Jesus now recommending they get a shot, they hold onto their "freedom and liberty" by remaining public health hazards. As one governer said this week about her own constituents, "It's the unvaccinated folk that are letting us down." Expand It’s actually mostly black people and LatinX who refuse the shot 1 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-27574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcambl61 Posted August 5, 2021 #27575 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 7/29/2021 at 10:27 AM, MrStretch said: Stupidity comes in all shapes and sizes. What you'll find out, in these demographic groups, is that they have the lowest levels of completed education in the country. Most of those that are mentioned in the story live in rural areas or in the smaller and middle-sized cities in the US. Even with their heroes; Sean Hannity and Cheeto Jesus now recommending they get a shot, they hold onto their "freedom and liberty" by remaining public health hazards. As one governer said this week about her own constituents, "It's the unvaccinated folk that are letting us down." Expand Just can't keep your trump derangement syndrome out of the conversation. This is why tvf failed. Understand? "Overall, states are still generally lagging in vaccinating Black and Hispanic people, despite a greater supply of vaccines across the country. While more needs to be done to get doses into these communities, the progress since the early days of vaccinations is notable." https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/us-vaccine-demographics.html Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-27575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
billywillyjones Posted August 5, 2021 #27576 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 5:11 AM, 9S_ said: It’s actually mostly black people and LatinX who refuse the shot Expand so basically mr stretch facts is saying that all blacks, latinos and whites basically anyone who doesn't agree with him are stupid poor people from rural areas... hmmm Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-27576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrStretch Posted August 5, 2021 #27610 Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) On 8/5/2021 at 4:40 AM, mcambl61 said: Can you back up your assertions with verifiable reference please? Or is this just another political virtue signaling rant? Expand "Lower-income communities lag in vaccination, according to federal data from the Census Bureau’s Household Pulse Survey. Adults with household incomes below $50,000 continued to have vaccination rates below the national average, whereas adults with household incomes above $50,000 had vaccination rates higher than the national average." States with higher median household income tended to have higher vaccination rates overall, according to the GoodRX analysis. Disparities by level of education also exist. Adults holding a bachelor’s degree or higher have the highest vaccination rate — 45 percent nationally. Adults without a high school diploma have the lowest vaccination rates at nearly 19 percent, according to Census data." - NevadaCurrent.com On 8/5/2021 at 5:03 AM, billywillyjones said: And explain how someone is a health risk to someone who is vaccinated particularly after the CDC has just said that vaccinated carry the virus. Explain this for the board please. Expand That's not quite what the CDC said. They people that are vaccinated can carry the delta variant of the virus, not that people with the vaccination carry the virus. There's a difference in those two statements, and yours is not entirely true. I have made no racial assertions regarding the black or latinx communities. Don't put words in my mouth. I would, however, point out that it doesn't take a socioeconomic genius to understand that those are two communities, as well, that have lower education and economic levels. Edited August 5, 2021 by MrStretch Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-27610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
9S_ Posted August 5, 2021 #27733 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 5:43 AM, MrStretch said: "Lower-income communities lag in vaccination, according to federal data from the Census Bureau’s Household Pulse Survey. Adults with household incomes below $50,000 continued to have vaccination rates below the national average, whereas adults with household incomes above $50,000 had vaccination rates higher than the national average." States with higher median household income tended to have higher vaccination rates overall, according to the GoodRX analysis. Disparities by level of education also exist. Adults holding a bachelor’s degree or higher have the highest vaccination rate — 45 percent nationally. Adults without a high school diploma have the lowest vaccination rates at nearly 19 percent, according to Census data." - NevadaCurrent.com That's not quite what the CDC said. They people that are vaccinated can carry the delta variant of the virus, not that people with the vaccination carry the virus. There's a difference in those two statements, and yours is not entirely true. I have made no racial assertions regarding the black or latinx communities. Don't put words in my mouth. I would, however, point out that it doesn't take a socioeconomic genius to understand that those are two communities, as well, that have lower education and economic levels. Expand So what you’re saying is black and Latino/Latina people are poor and dumb?????? You do realize the US had a black president?? Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-27733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrStretch Posted August 6, 2021 #28269 Share Posted August 6, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 7:55 AM, 9S_ said: So what you’re saying is black and Latino/Latina people are poor and dumb?????? You do realize the US had a black president?? Expand No, I said they had, as a group, lower education and income levels. Poor and dumb are your words. And the fact that we had a black president doesn't negate the fact that a large segment of the black community suffers from lower education and income levels. How obtuse. Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-28269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcambl61 Posted August 6, 2021 #28274 Share Posted August 6, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 5:43 AM, MrStretch said: "Lower-income communities lag in vaccination, according to federal data from the Census Bureau’s Household Pulse Survey. Adults with household incomes below $50,000 continued to have vaccination rates below the national average, whereas adults with household incomes above $50,000 had vaccination rates higher than the national average." States with higher median household income tended to have higher vaccination rates overall, according to the GoodRX analysis. Disparities by level of education also exist. Adults holding a bachelor’s degree or higher have the highest vaccination rate — 45 percent nationally. Adults without a high school diploma have the lowest vaccination rates at nearly 19 percent, according to Census data." - NevadaCurrent.com That's not quite what the CDC said. They people that are vaccinated can carry the delta variant of the virus, not that people with the vaccination carry the virus. There's a difference in those two statements, and yours is not entirely true. I have made no racial assertions regarding the black or latinx communities. Don't put words in my mouth. I would, however, point out that it doesn't take a socioeconomic genius to understand that those are two communities, as well, that have lower education and economic levels. Expand The ridiculous assertions that more "educated" people are vaccinated is pure nonsense. More racial and class division fomented by the left,sadly. Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-28274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSphinx Posted August 6, 2021 #28284 Share Posted August 6, 2021 On 8/6/2021 at 1:21 AM, mcambl61 said: The ridiculous assertions that more "educated" people are vaccinated is pure nonsense. ... Expand Vaccine hesitancy and downright refusal of the covid-vaccine is actually HIGHEST in those holding a PhD. See article > > https://www.upmc.com/media/news/072621-king-mejia-vaccine-hesitancy > Hesitancy held constant in the most educated group (those with a Ph.D.); by May Ph.D.’s were the most hesitant group. Would be interesting to see a further break-down per profession - vaccine hesitancy/refusal seems to be highest in the MEDICAL profession according to UK NHS reporting... Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/3024-what-we-know-about-the-demographics-of-those-who-havent-been-vaccinated-in-the-united-states/#findComment-28284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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