News Forum - Northeast Thailand: Fatal motorbike accident at Amata City Chon Buri Industrial Estate claims life

[Thaiger]

A fatal motorbike accident claimed the life of a 25 year old resident from Don Mod Dang, Ubon Ratchathani. The incident occurred at approximately 10.30pm last night (November 17), within the Amata City Chonburi Industrial Estate located in Don Hua Lo, Mueang District. Ratphol Ratchawakarn, the Deputy Inquiry Official of Don Hua Lo Police Station … …

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[cowslip]

Motorcycle deaths account for around 75 to 80% of all deaths on Thai roads - this is a public health issue - it costs the Thai economy a fortune yet for more than 3 decades, despite all the evidence the Thai aur=thorities have failed to address this.

[Poolie]

Why are you so concerned about the Thai economy? Have they consulted you?

[cowslip]

1 hour ago, Poolie said:

Why are you so concerned about the Thai economy? Have they consulted you?

Why do you ask that question? How does it relate to my post? Can you be more clear about why you ask that question?

[oldschooler]

Adult RTA rates is one thing.

20,000 RTA Dead Thai Kids 12-19 Every Year is the real tragedy here.Cultural Root Cause. Won’t Ever Change.

And nothing to do with “ the economy”, a quite separate subject, unless the unclear connection is stated……

[Poolie]

1 hour ago, cowslip said:

Why do you ask that question? How does it relate to my post? Can you be more clear about why you ask that question?

No.

[cowslip]

These are the  economic costs of road accidents, injuries, and fatalities in Thailand are significant. In 2017 it amounted to an estimated 121 billion Baht (approximately $4 billion), representing nearly 0.8% of the country's GDP. This substantial burden is primarily attributed to productivity losses stemming from fatalities, disabilities, and serious injuries.

Breakdown of Economic Costs:

·       Fatalities: 45 billion Baht ($1.5 billion)

·       Disabilities: 7 billion Baht ($240 million)

·       Serious Injuries: 67.5 billion Baht ($2.3 billion)

·       Slight Injuries: 1.5 billion Baht ($50 million)

This figure of course increase as more people are injured every year and either leave the work force or are no longer a breadwinner – it affects relatives dependants and families as well as industry and agriculture.

[cowslip]

Trying to "blame" road injuries on Thai "culture" is just racism.

[cowslip]

2 hours ago, oldschooler said:

Adult RTA rates is one thing.

20,000 RTA Dead Thai Kids 12-19 Every Year is the real tragedy here.Cultural Root Cause. Won’t Ever Change.

And nothing to do with “ the economy”, a quite separate subject, unless the unclear connection is stated……

There is no such thing as "adult RTA rates"

Cultural root cause is aracist expression and incorrect.

[Guest1]

14 hours ago, Thaiger said:

 The dark, winding road within the industrial estate was cited as a potential contributor to the motorbike accident.

Does anyone ordering them, to drive quicker as they can see?

The road is not there since today. It was his way home, right?

And looking at a lot motos , driven by locals in the night: There would be a chance, he was driving without sufficient light!

[cowslip]

9 minutes ago, Guest1 said:

Does anyone ordering them, to drive quicker as they can see?

you don't understand how people drive. No human is adapted to travel at the speeds of a motorised vehicle or at night - we  - including yourself - never evolved to do this.

I've worked on those industrial estates for decades - they are mostly private roads I'm not sure they are even adopted - 

[oldschooler]

3 hours ago, cowslip said:

There is no such thing as "adult RTA rates"

Cultural root cause is aracist expression and incorrect.

Wrong As usual. Disconnected substantially from reality.
Never mind the dead kids then just cold inhuman ( unproven)  “damage to the economy”.  
Kids killed by adults illegally giving them bikes at age 12 and up, failing to train them or stop them then mowing them down. THAT is the Cultural Cause, fool. 

[oldschooler]

3 hours ago, cowslip said:

Trying to "blame" road injuries on Thai "culture" is just racism.

Wrong …… Again ……Fool.

What else would explain the difference between UK RTA Deaths and same in Thailand …. or Egypt ? 
Hotter weather perhaps

[oldschooler]

3 hours ago, cowslip said:

These are the  economic costs of road accidents, injuries, and fatalities in Thailand are significant. In 2017 it amounted to an estimated 121 billion Baht (approximately $4 billion), representing nearly 0.8% of the country's GDP. This substantial burden is primarily attributed to productivity losses stemming from fatalities, disabilities, and serious injuries.

Breakdown of Economic Costs:

·       Fatalities: 45 billion Baht ($1.5 billion)

·       Disabilities: 7 billion Baht ($240 million)

·       Serious Injuries: 67.5 billion Baht ($2.3 billion)

·       Slight Injuries: 1.5 billion Baht ($50 million)

This figure of course increase as more people are injured every year and either leave the work force or are no longer a breadwinner – it affects relatives dependants and families as well as industry and agriculture.

0.8% ? Offset by new Thais entering workforce, Increased medical & funeral income & car repairs.

Net Economic Impact Zero. 

[oldschooler]

19 minutes ago, cowslip said:

you don't understand how people drive. No human is adapted to travel at the speeds of a motorised vehicle or at night - we  - including yourself - never evolved to do this.

I've worked on those industrial estates for decades - they are mostly private roads I'm not sure they are even adopted - 

Westerner who’s worked here “ on industrial estates for decades” .
What sort of major loser are you ?

Westerners must EARN the right to live in Thailand ……by first succeeding OUTSIDE Thailand. 
Including people posted to Thailand so earning Western Money in Thailand. 

[cowslip]

5 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

Westerner who’s worked here “ on industrial estates for decades” .
What sort of major loser are you ?

Westerners must EARN the right to live in Thailand ……by first succeeding OUTSIDE Thailand. 
Including people posted to Thailand so earning Western Money in Thailand. 

What a bizarre comment! - You mean I have to be a fat ignorant retiree? Rather than someone who was part of Thai society and the economy. Speak Thai deal with business people every day and get familiar with reall Thai people and life? 

Apparently I earned the right to live here (even redic=dency) as they gave me visa and work permit for 20 years.

What have you done to be here? Apart from giving employment to the healthcare service?

You obviously are not very good at working things out and know very little about road safety.

[cowslip]

19 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

0.8% ? Offset by new Thais entering workforce, Increased medical & funeral income & car repairs.

Net Economic Impact Zero. 

have you been drinking?

[cowslip]

20 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

0.8% ? Offset by new Thais entering workforce, Increased medical & funeral income & car repairs.

Net Economic Impact Zero. 

During 2011-2013, the annual average economic loss resulted from the road traffic trauma of the country was 545,435 million Thai baht, representing 6% of the national GDP (TDRI 2017).

[cowslip]

31 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

Wrong …… Again ……Fool.

What else would explain the difference between UK RTA Deaths and same in Thailand …. or Egypt ? 
Hotter weather perhaps

 

There is stupid, stupider and racist.

Why is it that so many racists spend so much time denying that they are racists which is clearly something they support. Could it be they are just too dim to realise what they are?

Racism can manifest many ways. One way that has occurred here is when racists attempt to avoid being called out is by using the concept of "culture" as a shield. But as they don’t know what culture actually is, they show themselves up quite clearly.

 

"What else would explain the difference between UK RTA Deaths and same in Thailand …. or Egypt ? " - probably the most ill-informed line on the entire thread.

 

[oldschooler]

5 minutes ago, cowslip said:

What a bizarre comment! - You mean I have to be a fat ignorant retiree? Rather than someone who was part of Thai society and the economy. Speak Thai deal with business people every day and get familiar with reall Thai people and life? 

Apparently I earned the right to live here (even redic=dency) as they gave me visa and work permit for 20 years.

What have you done to be here? Apart from giving employment to the healthcare service?

You obviously are not very good at working things out and know very little about road safety.

So neither a Citizen nor Resident. Local Salaryman. Earning Lifetime Peanuts. No Savings. Unemployable outside Thailand. Thai Culture Lover. Gone Native=Huge LOSER. Worked THAT Out didn’t I teacher ? 

Blindly Fails to accept cultural root causes of Thai RTA. Which Is State Sanctioned MURDER.

Any rational sane western-educated adult would be compelled to DETEST Thai Culture / People.  
Feel sorry for the kids born into it and it’s manifest unchanging corruption & injustices. 

[cowslip]

5 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

So neither a Citizen nor Resident. Local Salaryman. Earning Lifetime Peanuts. No Savings. Unemployable outside Thailand. Thai Culture Lover. Gone Native=Huge LOSER. Worked THAT Out didn’t I teacher ? 

Your powers of deduction are laughably lacking- At first I thought you were talking about yourself.

Because you don't work you obviously don't realise that foreigners have minimum wages in Thailand depending on nationality and they are entitled to full works benefits offered by BOI - including property ownership by busnesses. One of the things you will do now is spens an hour on Google unfortunately it doesn't do you any good because you don't know how to use Google and can't comprehend your search results

You're not going to last long in Thailand are you if you make a virtue of  being ignorant about not just Thais but road safety as well Thais?

[oldschooler]

10 minutes ago, cowslip said:

There is stupid, stupider and racist.

Why is it that so many racists spend so much time denying that they are racists which is clearly something they support. Could it be they are just too dim to realise what they are?

Racism can manifest many ways. One way that has occurred here is when racists attempt to avoid being called out is by using the concept of "culture" as a shield. But as they don’t know what culture actually is, they show themselves up quite clearly.

"What else would explain the difference between UK RTA Deaths and same in Thailand …. or Egypt ? " - probably the most ill-informed line on the entire thread.

Professional Marxist Loser. Wrongfully Uses “racism” a lot . Not realizing that’s YET another “ Loser” Tell.

Staggering levels of unawareness. Never answers just dismisses points made. Never offers Solutions. 
Deludedly believes all Cultures are Equal. Remind me which Non- West European cultures invented anything modern. Democracy. Rights. Submarines. Jet Engines. Spacecraft. TV. Internet. No ? There’s Reasons for that. …..

[cowslip]

7 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

Professional Marxist Loser. Wrongfully Uses “racism” a lot . Not realizing that’s YET another “ Loser” Tell.

Staggering levels of unawareness. Never answers just dismisses points made. Never offers Solutions. 
Deludedly believes all Cultures are Equal. Remind me which Non- West European cultures invented anything modern. Democracy. Rights. Submarines. Jet Engines. Spacecraft. TV. Internet. No ? There’s Reasons for that. …..

Google not working then? Reduced to ad hom?

[cowslip]

Here's something to help you understand road safety

 

Safe System approach

The Safe System approach recognizes that road transport is a complex system and places safety at its core (3). It also recognizes that humans, vehicles and the road infrastructure must interact in a way that ensures a high level of safety (Fig. 1). A Safe System therefore (3):

 anticipates and accommodates human errors;

 incorporates road and vehicle designs that limit crash forces to levels that are within human tolerance

to prevent death or serious injury;

 motivates those who design and maintain the roads, manufacture vehicles and administer safety programmes to share responsibility for safety with road users, so that when a crash occurs, remedies are sought throughout the system, rather than solely blaming the driver or other road users;

 pursues a commitment to proactive and continuous improvement of roads and vehicles so that the entire system is made safe rather than just locations or situations where crashes last occurred; and

 adheres to the underlying premise that the transport system should produce zero deaths or serious injuries and that safety should not be compromised for the sake of other factors such as cost or the desire for faster transport times. - WHO

It helps if you have average comprehension siklls

 

[oldschooler]

3 minutes ago, cowslip said:

Your powers of deduction are laughably lacking- At first I thought you were talking about yourself.

You're not going to last long in Thailand are you if you make a virtue of  being ignorant about not just Thais but road safety as well Thais?

Survived 15 Years Driving Extensively in Various Third World Countries plus Thailand.
One Bad Accident Only. Anybody claiming “ No Accidents” with even five years under those conditions is a goddamn LIAR. Places included Iraq, Venezuela, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE. 

UK Institute of Advanced Motorist Certificate.  Equivalent to ROSPA Silver level.Expert Defensive Driver. That’s All About “Prevention of (Road) Accidents”.

Lived in Thailand 2004-2023, when Not Working, with Thai House & Thai Family. Thai House Vacation Rental Business. Know Enough It Seems. My Reasons for living in Thailand have Nothing to do with Anything Thai.