News Forum - Thai man accuses foreign man of raping him in Bangkok hospital

[Thaiger]

An 18 year old Thai man sought help from the non-profit organisation Saimai Survive claiming that a foreign man from a Middle Eastern country raped him in a bathroom of a well-known private hospital in Bangkok‘s Sukhumvit district in the early hours of October 6. The teenage victim urged Saimai Survive founder, Ekkaphop Lueangprasert, to … …

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[23RD]

1 hour ago, Thaiger said:

An 18 year old Thai man sought help from the non-profit organisation Saimai Survive claiming that a foreign man from a Middle Eastern country raped him in a bathroom of a well-known private hospital in Bangkok‘s Sukhumvit district in the early hours of October 6. The teenage victim urged Saimai Survive founder, Ekkaphop Lueangprasert, to … …

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OMG don't let them bring grooming gangs here we've had enough problems with them in Europe however they're not a protected species here they won't get away with that sort of behaviour here.

[TheDirtyDurian]

1 hour ago, 23RD said:

OMG don't let them bring grooming gangs here we've had enough problems with them in Europe however they're not a protected species here they won't get away with that sort of behaviour here.

How is one alleged rape by a man previously unknown to the victim related to a grooming gang?

[23RD]

45 minutes ago, TheDirtyDurian said:

How is one alleged rape by a man previously unknown to the victim related to a grooming gang?

That's how it starts Shagger. 

[ChrisS]

"The superintendent of Lumpini Police Station said that his officers would carry out an investigation immediately, adding that the one to two-month investigation period was a misunderstanding."

"The victim also revealed to the media that some police officers had insulted him by saying that he was willing to have sex with the foreigner. The superintendent promised to investigate the matter and punish the officers who insulted the victim."

I suspect it was not a misunderstanding at all but an attempt to get him to go away and forget his crime report and had assumed he had gone with the foreigner for money. I wonder what punishment the officers will get for 'insulting the victim' sweet FA I suspect. Now reported 4 days later it will be impossible to prove the case as it will be one word against another.

[Vigo]

6 hours ago, TheDirtyDurian said:

How is one alleged rape by a man previously unknown to the victim related to a grooming gang?

The grooming gangs were a vile horrific example of what happens when people deny their existence, play down their existence or attribute the claims to prejudice. Thousands of children were molested by  several of these gangs. The Rotherham case stands out, as  an estimated 1400 minors were  abused  with not one one of the guilty Pakistanis on visa deported.

[Guest1]

7 hours ago, 23RD said:

OMG don't let them bring grooming gangs here we've had enough problems with them in Europe however they're not a protected species here they won't get away with that sort of behaviour here.

All just a question about money, me thinks! The getting away! TiT

[TheDirtyDurian]

1 hour ago, Vigo said:

The grooming gangs were a vile horrific example of what happens when people deny their existence, play down their existence or attribute the claims to prejudice. Thousands of children were molested by  several of these gangs. The Rotherham case stands out, as  an estimated 1400 minors were  abused  with not one one of the guilty Pakistanis on visa deported.

All totally correct. 

And all totally unrelated to cases of rape perpetrated by people previously unknown to the victim.

To conflate the two shows total ignorance of how grooming works and what it means. 

Grooming: the practice of preparing or training someone for a particular purpose or activity.

[Vigo]

10 hours ago, TheDirtyDurian said:

All totally correct. 

And all totally unrelated to cases of rape perpetrated by people previously unknown to the victim.

To conflate the two shows total ignorance of how grooming works and what it means. 

Grooming: the practice of preparing or training someone for a particular purpose or activity.

I was responding to the dismissal of the concern of the OP. The fact  is that the police dismissed the young man's claim. That was wrong. Their conduct was typical of that police station's reputation. it's the same one that was known for the 500 bahtfine cigarette butt  littering scam and the hey you farang you give urine sample now. You have Yaba you go to jail routine  I am not surprised to hear of them refusing to undertake police responsibilities. My view of that police station is not positive.

[TheDirtyDurian]

2 minutes ago, Vigo said:

I was responding to the dismissal of the concern of the OP. The fact  is that the police dismissed the young man's claim. That was wrong. Their conduct was typical of that police station's reputation. it's the same one that was known for the 500 bahtfine cigarette butt  littering scam and the hey you farang you give urine sample now. You have Yaba you go to jail routine  I am not surprised to hear of them refusing to undertake police responsibilities. My view of that police station is not positive.

So quote the OP then.

[Karolyn]

11 hours ago, Vigo said:

The grooming gangs were a vile horrific example of what happens when people deny their existence, play down their existence or attribute the claims to prejudice. Thousands of children were molested by  several of these gangs. The Rotherham case stands out, as  an estimated 1400 minors were  abused  with not one one of the guilty Pakistanis on visa deported.

But very few children (under 12 or 13) were involved, and whilst the perps (who were exploitative) were immigrants, the case against the 'rape gangs', really, depended on feminist dogma - 'listen and believe',not even mentioning male victims, which there were, and ignoring the wilful complicity of female 'groomers' who found other young girls.

So what people think of as patriotic or edgy, is really letting worse in, through the back door. Immediately, I noticed, the MSM started to blame religuon, and downplay ethnicity; well, there are millions of Moslem Malays, for example, but they do not target British girls. Its racism and whites are the victims.

[Karolyn]

10 hours ago, TheDirtyDurian said:

All totally correct. 

And all totally unrelated to cases of rape perpetrated by people previously unknown to the victim.

To conflate the two shows total ignorance of how grooming works and what it means. 

Grooming: the practice of preparing or training someone for a particular purpose or activity.

I think the conclusion is because of statutory 'rape'. Media about Rotherham/Yewtree, was biased towards the grooming of underage girls for sex. Though some were as young as 9 or 10, probably most were, in fact, >16 and legal.

[Vigo]

7 minutes ago, Karolyn said:

But very few children (under 12 or 13) were involved, and whilst the perps (who were exploitative) were immigrants, the case against the 'rape gangs', really, depended on feminist dogma - 'listen and believe',not even mentioning male victims, which there were, and ignoring the wilful complicity of female 'groomers' who found other young girls.

So what people think of as patriotic or edgy, is really letting worse in, through the back door. Immediately, I noticed, the MSM started to blame religuon, and downplay ethnicity; well, there are millions of Moslem Malays, for example, but they do not target British girls. Its racism and whites are the victims.

I do not know what reports you have relied on, however, the court documents and the Jay report indicate a rather  depraved situation. FYI the majority of victims were female aged 12-16 and these are children as defined by law.  The  perpetrators were all pakistani males aged 30-40. Only 2 older females were implicated and they fit the standard Mamasan character to a tee. Aged 50+, not particularly attractive  and with a history of sexual abuse and crime.

[Karolyn]

40 minutes ago, Vigo said:

I do not know what reports you have relied on, however, the court documents and the Jay report indicate a rather  depraved situation. FYI the majority of victims were female aged 12-16 and these are children as defined by law.  The  perpetrators were all pakistani males aged 30-40. Only 2 older females were implicated and they fit the standard Mamasan character to a tee. Aged 50+, not particularly attractive  and with a history of sexual abuse and crime.

Brotish law does not define children by the age of majority, it defines minors, whilst recognising older minors have agency of their own.

13-16 would not have been assumed a victim for consenting to a sex act, at any time before WW2. Whereas race would not have been be downplayed.

The gangs used young adukts, frequently minors, to find vulnerable young people. And they too kbew what they were doing. 

[Vigo]

20 minutes ago, Karolyn said:

Brotish law does not define children by the age of majority, it defines minors, whilst recognising older minors have agency of their own.

13-16 would not have been assumed a victim for consenting to a sex act, at any time before WW2. Whereas race would not have been be downplayed.

The gangs used young adukts, frequently minors, to find vulnerable young people. And they too kbew what they were doing. 

No. Child care Act is clear on this: In England a child is defined as anyone who has not yet reached their 18th birthday. Even if 16 and living independently,  the person is still deemed a child and is given the same protection and entitlements as any other child.   this is not pre WWII and your constant justifications  for child sex activity are unsettling, disturbing and creepy. In these specific cases the sex offenders were primarily  taxi drivers who relied on their transportation activities to target vulnerable youths. Their targets were group homes and  child care facilities.

Please do not  offer excuses for the exploitation of emotionally vulnerable children. These children were not capable of fully appreciating that they were being exploited and used. The Jay report documented that in many cases they were physically threatened and abused.

 

[Karolyn]

49 minutes ago, Vigo said:

No. Child care Act is clear on this: In England a child is defined as anyone who has not yet reached their 18th birthday. Even if 16 and living independently,  the person is still deemed a child and is given the same protection and entitlements as any other child.   this is not pre WWII and your constant justifications  for child sex activity are unsettling, disturbing and creepy. In these specific cases the sex offenders were primarily  taxi drivers who relied on their transportation activities to target vulnerable youths. Their targets were group homes and  child care facilities.

Please do not  offer excuses for the exploitation of emotionally vulnerable children. These children were not capable of fully appreciating that they were being exploited and used. The Jay report documented that in many cases they were physically threatened and abused.

Though there might have been other factors why the girls were vulnerable, there is no reason to say a 16 year old is a child, and an 18 year old isn't. And the grooming involved the employment of youths, to bring these girls into exploitative situations.