News Forum - Hamas attack at Israeli music festival kills over 260

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The deadly attack by Hamas militants on an Israeli music festival resulted in over 260 fatalities, including 12 Thais and a 30 year old German tourist, Shani Louk. The incident occurred near the Gaza border in a southern region of Israel on Saturday. The local Israeli emergency response organization, Zaka, reported the discovery of over … …

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[HolyCowCm]

This is getting worse by the moment. Our world is going insane. Who is next, N Korea with the little big man complex using a nuke? CPP going in on the country of Taiwan? Or going way too far with the Philipinne's and the Philippine's reacts against the CCP bully starting a suqirmish or war? Puting using a nuke? All of the above?

[23RD]

37 minutes ago, HolyCowCm said:

This is getting worse by the moment. Our world is going insane. Who is next, N Korea with the little big man complex using a nuke? CPP going in on the country of Taiwan? Or going way too far with the Philipinne's and the Philippine's reacts against the CCP bully starting a suqirmish or war? Puting using a nuke? All of the above?

This is a common pattern under The Biden Administration Joe Biden bankrolled this and should be held accountable for the deaths of these innocent Civilians:

11/09/2023 The Biden Administration released $6 Billion in frozen assets to Iran in exchange for 5 x Iranian citizens with duel US citizenship. 

In April 2021 The Biden Administration reversed The Trump era sanctions and handed over $235 million to The Palestinian Authorities. 

And as we're speaking him and Anthony Blinken are doing their best to ensure Iran gets nuclear weapons. 

This is what happens when you try appeasement with Terrorist 

[Smiler]

Religion of peace showing its true colors by attacking old people, women and children, there are some simply horrendous clips online showing bodies being desecrated, children screaming, women being abused as these religious fanatics jump and cheer like a bunch of chimpanzees except chimps are undoubtedly better behaved. 

[Wackamole]

1 hour ago, Smiler said:

Religion of peace showing its true colors by attacking old people, women and children, there are some simply horrendous clips online showing bodies being desecrated, children screaming, women being abused as these religious fanatics jump and cheer like a bunch of chimpanzees except chimps are undoubtedly better behaved. 

Wouldn't it be so simple. But don't you know some of their children women and old people have died under Israeli bullets and bombs? How about families being robbed of their homes and land?

The score between the 2 sides is not even close.. and I'm not hoping it gets evened or anything. But it's just more complex than you make it sound. Look at Israel's official reaction: "vengeance ten fold" or something to that tune.

[Smiler]

55 minutes ago, Wackamole said:

Wouldn't it be so simple. But don't you know some of their children women and old people have died under Israeli bullets and bombs? How about families being robbed of their homes and land?

The score between the 2 sides is not even close.. and I'm not hoping it gets evened or anything. But it's just more complex than you make it sound. Look at Israel's official reaction: "vengeance ten fold" or something to that tune.

Trouble is Hamas fire their rockets into Israel the majority of the time from hospitals and schools then when the Israelis counter they can somehow claim a moral high ground. I’ve never heard of the Israeli army going in killing young women and children by deliberately targeting them, apparently they burned some Israeli houses with whole families inside, I don’t believe they rape the Palestine women either, or parade the naked bodies so everybody can spit on them? take a loser look at what they have done they’re not men just animals. 

[Marc26]

12 minutes ago, Smiler said:

Trouble is Hamas fire their rockets into Israel the majority of the time from hospitals and schools then when the Israelis counter they can somehow claim a moral high ground. I’ve never heard of the Israeli army going in killing young women and children by deliberately targeting them, apparently they burned some Israeli houses with whole families inside, I don’t believe they rape the Palestine women either, or parade the naked bodies so everybody can spit on them? take a loser look at what they have done they’re not men just animals. 

Nothing excused the actions of what Hamas did in Israel this weekend

 

But Israel absolutely has killed women and children

 

Stolen Palestinian's land and keeps doing so

All illegal while the world let's them

 

 

So Israel is not an innocent victim 

 

It is all a mess 

[Wackamole]

45 minutes ago, Smiler said:

Trouble is Hamas fire their rockets into Israel the majority of the time from hospitals and schools then when the Israelis counter they can somehow claim a moral high ground. I’ve never heard of the Israeli army going in killing young women and children by deliberately targeting them, apparently they burned some Israeli houses with whole families inside, I don’t believe they rape the Palestine women either, or parade the naked bodies so everybody can spit on them? take a loser look at what they have done they’re not men just animals. 

Have you ever seen Palestinian families being removed from their homes by soldiers while Israelis are waiting to move in because "God gave them"? Curious how you'd feel if that happened to you and your cultural group on a massive scale. Also you seem to think scores of Israeli soldiers and civilians haven't been treating Palestinians like dirty animals for decades. It's only because Hamas had been shooting from schools right. These men are born men like every other on this earth mind you, they ve been made into animals by the circumstances. Let's just hope for a miracle at this point.

[Marc26]

1 hour ago, Wackamole said:

Have you ever seen Palestinian families being removed from their homes by soldiers while Israelis are waiting to move in because "God gave them"? Curious how you'd feel if that happened to you and your cultural group on a massive scale. Also you seem to think scores of Israeli soldiers and civilians haven't been treating Palestinians like dirty animals for decades. It's only because Hamas had been shooting from schools right. These men are born men like every other on this earth mind you, they ve been made into animals by the circumstances. Let's just hope for a miracle at this point.

I agree

 

But whatever our views are, I think we can all agree seeing civilians and kids being killed and wounded in both Palestine and Israel is senseless and just a tragedy

 

 

Israel will now wipe Gaza off the map, that's what they wanted to do and have the excuse and permission to do so now

 

And Hamas doesn't care about the Palestinian people, they know this would be the outcome

 

 

All just horrific 

[Wackamole]

2 minutes ago, Marc26 said:

I agree

But whatever our views are, I think we can all agree seeing civilians and kids being killed and wounded in both Palestine and Israel is senseless and just a tragedy

Israel will now wipe Gaza off the map, that's what they wanted to do and have the excuse and permission to do so now

And Hamas doesn't care about the Palestinian people, they know this would be the outcome

All just horrific 

All agreed except when you say Hamas doesn't care about their people. It's probably the only way out they see.

Let's just hope for the least harm from now, but this might get not only uglier but also a lot larger.

[Marc26]

28 minutes ago, Wackamole said:

All agreed except when you say Hamas doesn't care about their people. It's probably the only way out they see.

Let's just hope for the least harm from now, but this might get not only uglier but also a lot larger.

I understand that point and don't disagree..........

 

And listen, people are pissed that Palestinians around the world are cheering, and it does seem barbaric to cheer such an attack

 

But they been held prisoners for decades

 

So I get that..........but there was never going to be any other outcome but total destruction by Israel once they targeted civilians so brutally , Hamas knew that

[23RD]

5 minutes ago, Marc26 said:

I understand that point and don't disagree..........

And listen, people are pissed that Palestinians around the world are cheering, and it does seem barbaric to cheer such an attack

But they been held prisoners for decades

So I get that..........but there was never going to be any other outcome but total destruction by Israel once they targeted civilians so brutally , Hamas knew that

The bigger picture of the last 3 days is the lack of leadership from the Biden Administration:

Afghanistan , Ukraine now Israel these people thrive in chaos and instability. 

The sound of silence from the Left says it all the same people who have been so vocal about Russia/Ukraine. 

And with Joe Biden's refusal to enforce his own Borders its probably a case of when not if a similar mass casualty attack happens in The US  hopefully this will wake The US Electorate up and any US Jew that still votes Democrat should be swapped for a hostage in Gaza.

Yes there are some bad Jews Gyorgy Schwartz and his son Alex being the worse offenders but Israel is the only real democracy in the Middle East. 

[Grumpish]

52 minutes ago, 23RD said:

The bigger picture of the last 3 days is the lack of leadership from the Biden Administration:

Afghanistan , Ukraine now Israel these people thrive in chaos and instability. 

The sound of silence from the Left says it all the same people who have been so vocal about Russia/Ukraine. 

And with Joe Biden's refusal to enforce his own Borders its probably a case of when not if a similar mass casualty attack happens in The US  hopefully this will wake The US Electorate up and any US Jew that still votes Democrat should be swapped for a hostage in Gaza.

Yes there are some bad Jews Gyorgy Schwartz and his son Alex being the worse offenders but Israel is the only real democracy in the Middle East. 

Conspiracy theory nut job tries to blame it all on Biden. And ignores the issues that have been ongoing since the creation of the state of Israel. There are rights and wrongs on both sides, and sadly this kind of thing will continue to happen as long as both sides refuse to talk to each other.

[23RD]

59 minutes ago, Grumpish said:

Conspiracy theory nut job tries to blame it all on Biden. And ignores the issues that have been ongoing since the creation of the state of Israel. There are rights and wrongs on both sides, and sadly this kind of thing will continue to happen as long as both sides refuse to talk to each other.

Fact Joe Biden released $ 6 Billion of frozen assets to Iran on 11/09/2023.

Fact Joe Biden illegally removed Trump era sanctions and gave The Palestinian Authority $ 235 Million in April 2021.

So get your facts straight and stop apologising for Terrorist ( That's Biden & Hamas).

[Grumpish]

43 minutes ago, 23RD said:

Fact Joe Biden released $ 6 Billion of frozen assets to Iran on 11/09/2023.

Fact Joe Biden illegally removed Trump era sanctions and gave The Palestinian Authority $ 235 Million in April 2021.

So get your facts straight and stop apologising for Terrorist ( That's Biden & Hamas).

The ability of conspiracy nut jobs to make connections that are non-existent and irrelevant never ceases to amuse me. 

[TheDirtyDurian]

You reap what you sow ...

Blowback 

[Wackamole]

1 hour ago, 23RD said:

Fact Joe Biden released $ 6 Billion of frozen assets to Iran on 11/09/2023.

Fact Joe Biden illegally removed Trump era sanctions and gave The Palestinian Authority $ 235 Million in April 2021.

So get your facts straight and stop apologising for Terrorist ( That's Biden & Hamas).

thank God youre here to lighten up the mood.

[TheDirtyDurian]

2 minutes ago, Wackamole said:

thank God youre here to lighten up the mood.

Probably going to give us some military insights in a minute ..

[23RD]

17 minutes ago, TheDirtyDurian said:

Probably going to give us some military insights in a minute ..

No I'll leave that to the Resident Armchair Generals on the Forum. 

[23RD]

42 minutes ago, Grumpish said:

The ability of conspiracy nut jobs to make connections that are non-existent and irrelevant never ceases to amuse me. 

So I'm making it up Biden didn't really release:

$ 6 Billion of frozen assets to Iran on 11/09/2023.

 illegally removed Trump era sanctions and gave The Palestinian Authority $ 235 Million in April 2021.

[23RD]

33 minutes ago, Wackamole said:

thank God youre here to lighten up the mood.

Hey didn't happen on Trump's watch.

Neither did the the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal or The Ukraine. 

[Grumpish]

10 minutes ago, 23RD said:

So I'm making it up Biden didn't really release:

$ 6 Billion of frozen assets to Iran on 11/09/2023.

 illegally removed Trump era sanctions and gave The Palestinian Authority $ 235 Million in April 2021.

You are trying to make connections where there are none - classic conspiracy theorist stuff.

[Vigo]

10 hours ago, Wackamole said:

Wouldn't it be so simple. But don't you know some of their children women and old people have died under Israeli bullets and bombs? How about families being robbed of their homes and land?

The score between the 2 sides is not even close.. and I'm not hoping it gets evened or anything. But it's just more complex than you make it sound. Look at Israel's official reaction: "vengeance ten fold" or something to that tune.

Yes. they have. The arabs are good at using human shields. Until the west bank border wall was built, the militants had no hesitation is sending  the mentally infirm and children as suicide bombers. The arab culture/mentality requires that there always be retribution and that it must be much more severe than the initial attack, otherwise the attacks continue.

9 hours ago, Marc26 said:

Nothing excused the actions of what Hamas did in Israel this weekend

But Israel absolutely has killed women and children

Stolen Palestinian's land and keeps doing so

All illegal while the world let's them

So Israel is not an innocent victim 

It is all a mess 

The arguments of stolen land and displaced people will go back and forth forever. Keep in mind that over 1 million arab jews were expelled from arab countries on short notice and their assets seized. Nasser gave them 48-72 hours to leave Egypt. The streets of  Baghdad ran red with jew blood when the edict was given that all jews should be purged in 1948 etc. My local Church sent help to the Darfur, and at the time only jewish people were taking the risks of helping  Christian Africans  escape the rape and slaughter that awaited them. And it was Kurdish Arabs in Iraq that saved a part of the jewish community and they have suffered for it ever since, but explains why the Israelis feel a debt of gratitude.

As a reminder, Gaza is not occupied by Israel and there is no theft of land in Gaza. It is ruled by close Iranian ally Hamas.  Hizbollah  is an occupying shiite militia in Lebanon that has forced the Druze and  Christian Lebanese  away from the Israeli border so that they may launch their attacks on behalf of iran.  Israel has never ever targeted civilians, nor children as these Arabs have done. Nor did Israel ever attack a non combatant music festival attended by people who are most likely to support peace talks and appeasement with the terrorists.  What we have here is a pure  terrorism incident and all the justifications you offer does not excuse it. This is Iran launching a war to prevent any peace agreement with KSA and other arabs.  This is Russia throwing a distraction to divert attention and support away from Ukraine.

Iran carried out a cyber attack in the hours prior to the Hamas attack and completely shut down the Israeli defense system. The western world should be very concerned.

[Fanta]

3 hours ago, Vigo said:

As a reminder, Gaza is not occupied by Israel and there is no theft of land in Gaza.

Really? So how do you explain this?

[Khunmark]

1 hour ago, Fanta said:

Really? So how do you explain this?

Vigo mentions Gaza, if you look closely Gaza has not been annexed by Israel. Gaza, however has been the subject of blockades by Israel.