News Forum - British man recounts shocking encounter with racist Russians in Phuket

[Karolyn]

20 minutes ago, Vigo said:

Aren't you you usually in conflict with people who do not agree with your views on adults having sexual relationships with children?

Which were the normal views orior to 2000 or so. After which things went batshit.

1. Post-pubescents are (by definition) not children, and they know right from wrong if they make decisions, and they might even be parents themselves

2. Images (drawings, CGI) are not the same as real people, some child pornography should not be treated as such, as no abuse was involved in its creation. That and only a subset of people with paedophile tendencies, are acting on them. 

3. Non-intergenerational sex and dating is normal. Age of consent laws can harm socially acceptable relationships. If two people count as 'young adults' or 'youths', its normal. And in comvination with child pornography laws, there have been teenagers become technically child pornographers, for filming themselves having sex. 

4. Minors have 'sexual subjectivity' from adrenarche. Its a ridiculous situatuon when someone at age 'x' can be tried and convicted, specifically for a sex crime. Yet simultaneously, they can be jailbait themselves at age 'x'. Well either adolescent sex criminals should all be aquitted, or the age of consent be dropped.

Of these points, only 4 would startle anyone with normal sensibilities. Until they think about it.

 

[PhuketBloke]

6 hours ago, ChicagoExpat said:

I LOVE your take on this -- that since people aren't praising the Russians for using racial slurs on this guy, it's just the same old Russophobia at work!

Spoken like a true consumer of Kremlin agitprop.

So, to answer your question above... Russia.  Russia answers your question perfectly.  They invaded Afghanistan to prop up their puppet, killed up to 2 million civilians, and then ran.  Here's a link for the 2 million civilians figure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet–Afghan_War#:~:text=The conflict led to the,in Pakistan and in Iran.

Not what you wanted, was it?  Because it your rush to dump hate on America (who invaded to dislodge Osama bin Laden -- unless you're a jihadi or just so far leftwing hard to see how you can whine about that), you totally botched the casualty figures.  These two left-wing sites estimate 46,000-70,000 TOTAL -- most of were killed by the Taliban, or course.  And, failed effort though it was, the U.S. spent hundreds of billions trying to build schools, highways, infrastructure, etc. while your good friends the Russians just killed, and killed, and killed.  All to prop up a commie puppet.

Where did I mention I hated the USA, or I loved the Russians? I merely pointed out a historical fact.  You are the one doing a rant and a whine, not me. If I pointed out that Britain and its empire over a 200-year period were not angels, does that mean I hate myself now? 

[PhuketBloke]

6 hours ago, Vigo said:

Are you aware that the USA  has "Tribal Lands?" The  native peoples have jurisdiction over their land. It is why there can be casinos in states that do not allow gambling.

Have you ever heard of the Navajo Nation? 400,000 people strong. It occupies and controls a massive portion of 3 US states. https://www.navajo-nsn.gov/   Are you aware that  state and county laws do not apply to such nations? Have you heard of Cherokee nation?  Try going onto tribal lands without an invitation and see what happens. 

I agree, by UK standards the Navajo Nation is massive at 71,000 sq km, it is over half the size of England, I would call that quite substantial. 

[ChicagoExpat]

10 hours ago, PhuketBloke said:

Where did I mention I hated the USA, or I loved the Russians? I merely pointed out a historical fact.  You are the one doing a rant and a whine, not me. If I pointed out that Britain and its empire over a 200-year period were not angels, does that mean I hate myself now? 

It's a logical inference, based on your protest that the place is obviously lousy with Americans because someone had the temerity to criticize Russians using racial slurs.  Topped off by your delight in flogging the withdrawal from Afghanistan, I was on solid ground.  And still am.  I notice you didn't comment on inadvertently painting a picture of Russia's retreat from Afghanistan... understandable that you let that one slide.  

Oh, and 

[PhuketBloke]

5 hours ago, ChicagoExpat said:

It's a logical inference, based on your protest that the place is obviously lousy with Americans because someone had the temerity to criticize Russians using racial slurs.  Topped off by your delight in flogging the withdrawal from Afghanistan, I was on solid ground.  And still am.  I notice you didn't comment on inadvertently painting a picture of Russia's retreat from Afghanistan... understandable that you let that one slide.  

Oh, and 

Bizzare. I never mentioned Afghanistan but I did indirectly refer to Vietnam, I suppose they did a lot of good in Vietnam too, apart from the one to two million people they killed that is. Just face it, we in the West also have a tarnished history, at least I admit to it. So again according to your logic that must mean I hate myself as I said the truth about my own country. 

[ChicagoExpat]

26 minutes ago, PhuketBloke said:

Bizzare. I never mentioned Afghanistan but I did indirectly refer to Vietnam, I suppose they did a lot of good in Vietnam too, apart from the one to two million people they killed that is. Just face it, we in the West also have a tarnished history, at least I admit to it. So again according to your logic that must mean I hate myself as I said the truth about my own country. 

Vietnam didn't occur "over a few decades."  And considering how late in the argument you're bringing this up, your defense of Russian racists, your disdain for Americans... I'm guessing you DID mean Russia and just realized it was a lost argument.

As for you hating yourself... with reprehensible views like yours, seems plausible  

[yselmike]

3 hours ago, ChicagoExpat said:

Vietnam didn't occur "over a few decades."  And considering how late in the argument you're bringing this up, your defense of Russian racists, your disdain for Americans... I'm guessing you DID mean Russia and just realized it was a lost argument.

As for you hating yourself... with reprehensible views like yours, seems plausible  

Well the french took over in 1877, Uncle Ho set up his independence movement after the japanese arrived in 1941 and started fighting in 1945.What is now called the Vietnamese war ran from 1955 to 1975.

There's a few decades there.

[PhuketBloke]

7 hours ago, ChicagoExpat said:

Vietnam didn't occur "over a few decades."  And considering how late in the argument you're bringing this up, your defense of Russian racists, your disdain for Americans... I'm guessing you DID mean Russia and just realized it was a lost argument.

As for you hating yourself... with reprehensible views like yours, seems plausible  

My mistake, I just checked my initial comment on this, I wrote  ".......killed two million civilians over a few decades", when I thought I had written, " ....killed two million civilians over a few decades ago.....".

That is what happens if one tries to do two to three things at once, one window on my monitor for programming (Swift IOS language), one window open to run test scripts, and one to write emails or blogs like this). I will double-check next time after leaving comments. 

Now I can see, but in any case, I do not hate Americans as you say, In fact, I have worked in the USA twice, once in Fort Worth for four months and a year in New Jersey with AT&T back in 1996.

[PhuketBloke]

3 hours ago, yselmike said:

Well the french took over in 1877, Uncle Ho set up his independence movement after the japanese arrived in 1941 and started fighting in 1945.What is now called the Vietnamese war ran from 1955 to 1975.

There's a few decades there.

So just by chance, my initial comment was correct even though I did mean to write"....a few decades ago....". Maybe I should buy a lottery ticket.