News Forum - Teen’s heartrending showdown: Schoolgirl stabbed in heroic act (video)

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A 15 year old British schoolgirl was tragically stabbed as she tried to intervene in a fight between a friend and her ex-boyfriend on the way to school on Wednesday. Eliyanna, a student at the Old Palace of John Whitgift School in Croydon, met with a devastating fate as she was fatally stabbed on her … …

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[Pinetree]

The Country has gone to rat shit.  The Police are useless and the government clueless.  They need to introduce stop and search and ignore the supposed racist over tones of doing so, at least in London. 

https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/assembly/commission-on-knife-crime-in-black-community

[Karolyn]

I don't want to sound racist, but these sorts of stories, seem never to involve whites, nor certain minorities, such as Chinese or Vietnamese.

[Marc26]

1 hour ago, Karolyn said:

I don't want to sound racist, but these sorts of stories, seem never to involve whites, nor certain minorities, such as Chinese or Vietnamese.

China is in the top 10 for stabbing deaths worldwide

Phillippines as well, but that is known as a dangerous country

 

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/stabbing-deaths-by-country

[Karolyn]

43 minutes ago, Marc26 said:

China is in the top 10 for stabbing deaths worldwide

Phillippines as well, but that is known as a dangerous country

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/stabbing-deaths-by-country

Well I'm thinking of within the UK. White youths often carry knives, but stabbings are rarer unless it's over 'business'

[Grumpish]

22 minutes ago, Karolyn said:

Well I'm thinking of within the UK. White youths often carry knives, but stabbings are rarer unless it's over 'business'

That is unfortunately true for the UK - overall the rates of knife crimes are pretty much the same for Black and White, but rates of murders and serious injuries are much higher amongst the Black community. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/black-people-murder-victims-london-b1828432.html

[TheDirtyDurian]

14 hours ago, Karolyn said:

I don't want to sound racist, but these sorts of stories, seem never to involve whites, nor certain minorities, such as Chinese or Vietnamese.

Stephen Lawrence 

[cowslip]

On 9/29/2023 at 5:39 PM, Karolyn said:

I don't want to sound racist, but these sorts of stories, seem never to involve whites, nor certain minorities, such as Chinese or Vietnamese.

You may not want to but you do.

[cowslip]

policing on its own is not the answer.

THe tories have reduced the social care funding and services to a fracr=tion of what they were 2 decades ago.

Youth grows up now with little guidance just threats of beatings and imprisonment by the police. THis instantly alienates the people they go for and they create their own subculture.

There are over a thousand corrupt police suspended at present the entire policeforce has been militarised and is a clique on their own - the ferment incestuous views about the general public and are then surprised if or when they are held to account.

the education system is less funded than it has been since WW2 ,facilities for yourh have dwindled to nothing and young people confronted with Brexit are looking at a distopian society with no future - the EU education grants have gone and employment in Europe is becoming a closed door - Brexit promised to "take Brtain back" - it has to the 10950s 0r 70s - just watch Auf Wiedersehen Pet to get the idea.

 

[Karolyn]

2 hours ago, cowslip said:

You may not want to but you do.

Does it matter? It doesn't help a community, to pretend it doesn't have a problem. 

[cowslip]

8 minutes ago, Karolyn said:

Does it matter? It doesn't help a community, to pretend it doesn't have a problem. 

Sorry, but you're the one with a problem.

[23RD]

I blame Sadiq Khan The Mayor of London and The Labour Party for this state of affairs. 

This is what happens when the left wing Metropolitan Police Force stopped recruiting its Officers on their ability and started recruiting them on their sexual preference a number of years ago. 

You'll struggle to an Officer in a high crime area in London on a daily basis however if you misgender a member of The Alphabet Community you'll have a dozen knocking at your door in warp speed. 

As a Politician from a more sensible Party put it recently They need to stop policing tweets and start policing Streets. 

 

[Vigo]

7 hours ago, cowslip said:

policing on its own is not the answer.

THe tories have reduced the social care funding and services to a fracr=tion of what they were 2 decades ago.

Youth grows up now with little guidance just threats of beatings and imprisonment by the police. THis instantly alienates the people they go for and they create their own subculture.

There are over a thousand corrupt police suspended at present the entire policeforce has been militarised and is a clique on their own - the ferment incestuous views about the general public and are then surprised if or when they are held to account.

the education system is less funded than it has been since WW2 ,facilities for yourh have dwindled to nothing and young people confronted with Brexit are looking at a distopian society with no future - the EU education grants have gone and employment in Europe is becoming a closed door - Brexit promised to "take Brtain back" - it has to the 10950s 0r 70s - just watch Auf Wiedersehen Pet to get the idea.

Your missive reads as an excuse for the violence. It's the  fault of the "system" for not giving the criminals money. Your argument assumes that the paying off of violent criminals would stop the violence.  How about we look at the history of the UK and accept the fact that life was until relatively recent times, a violent affair with horrific labour and child protection practices. Without going into an intensive retelling of the era of enlightenment that saw the  approach to criminal justice "liberalized"  The reality is that  there was less money spent per capita on social services, mental health and policing during that liberal era than there has been since the cutbacks first brought in by the Thatcher government 40+ years ago.

There was a large influx of Black and SE Asian people in the 1950's until the 1970's. The common trait of such immigrants was a work ethic, a respect for the laws of the land, a recognition of the value of education and a willingness to assimilate and contribute into  general society. The white kids were just as prone to trouble back then as they are today, and they were often more impoverished than they are today  and yet they did not rampage.

Fast forward and what you have today are selfish, lazy people who have grown up in a world of being told it is always someone else who is responsible for their situation. No one is held responsible. Everyone has a sense of entitlement especially the 45-65 year olds who laid the foundation for todays cult of savagery.  There are so many social support programs, that the fear of failure or a need to be accountable has been removed. Start holding people accountable for their misdeeds, including tangible penalties and the problem will be remedied.

[Pinetree]

9 hours ago, cowslip said:

You may not want to but you do.

Try not to be so dumb. 

[cowslip]

4 hours ago, Vigo said:

Your missive reads as an excuse for the violence. It's the  fault of the "system" for not giving the criminals money. Your argument assumes that the paying off of violent criminals would stop the violence.  How about we look at the history of the UK and accept the fact that life was until relatively recent times, a violent affair with horrific labour and child protection practices. Without going into an intensive retelling of the era of enlightenment that saw the  approach to criminal justice "liberalized"  The reality is that  there was less money spent per capita on social services, mental health and policing during that liberal era than there has been since the cutbacks first brought in by the Thatcher government 40+ years ago.

There was a large influx of Black and SE Asian people in the 1950's until the 1970's. The common trait of such immigrants was a work ethic, a respect for the laws of the land, a recognition of the value of education and a willingness to assimilate and contribute into  general society. The white kids were just as prone to trouble back then as they are today, and they were often more impoverished than they are today  and yet they did not rampage.

Fast forward and what you have today are selfish, lazy people who have grown up in a world of being told it is always someone else who is responsible for their situation. No one is held responsible. Everyone has a sense of entitlement especially the 45-65 year olds who laid the foundation for todays cult of savagery.  There are so many social support programs, that the fear of failure or a need to be accountable has been removed. Start holding people accountable for their misdeeds, including tangible penalties and the problem will be remedied.

Named after a pickup, speaks like a pick up.

[cowslip]

8 hours ago, 23RD said:

I blame Sadiq Khan The Mayor of London and The Labour Party for this state of affairs. 

This is what happens when the left wing Metropolitan Police Force stopped recruiting its Officers on their ability and started recruiting them on their sexual preference a number of years ago. 

You'll struggle to an Officer in a high crime area in London on a daily basis however if you misgender a member of The Alphabet Community you'll have a dozen knocking at your door in warp speed. 

As a Politician from a more sensible Party put it recently They need to stop policing tweets and start policing Streets. 

So he is responsible for Leeds, Manchester, Newcastle, Liverpool, and all the other regions?

[23RD]

1 minute ago, cowslip said:

So he is responsible for Leeds, Manchester, Newcastle, Liverpool, and all the other regions?

We're we talking about these area's Bud read the story Shagger it's about a girl stabbed to death in London. 

But if you want to mention those other UK Cities agreed I blame the Labour Party for thecrime problems  in those Cities to.

[cowslip]

So - how many of the people on this thread carry a knife or a gun, here or at home?

[Karolyn]

5 hours ago, cowslip said:

So - how many of the people on this thread carry a knife or a gun, here or at home?

Me, always

[Rookiescot]

Glasgow used to have a massive problem with knife crime until the Scottish government decided to do something about it.

Other cities should try the same thing.

https://www.theguardian.com/membership/2017/dec/03/how-scotland-reduced-knife-deaths-among-young-people

[Khunmark]

2 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Glasgow used to have a massive problem with knife crime until the Scottish government decided to do something about it.

Other cities should try the same thing.

https://www.theguardian.com/membership/2017/dec/03/how-scotland-reduced-knife-deaths-among-young-people

Law and order alone is not a magic bullet for addressing social issues. Good public policy is always multifaceted, employing the skills of a range of public institutions. It comes of no surprise the successes in Glasgow involved a level of creativity often absent in public policy. Thanks for posting.